trump is the antichrist

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Mike123

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Donald Trump had Pastor Andrew Brunson released, an American imprisoned by Islam in Turkey for two years, who knelt to pray with Donald Trump at the Oval Office. What a hero! Also, he is tackling all the drug crimes in America, all those drugs coming over the border with the new legislation he recently did. Also, unemployment has reached a 49-year low! And he has superseded the Nafta trade deal with a new and superior trade deal with Canada and Mexico.
The growth in GDP is so strong right now! It reached an annual rate of 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018. It hasn't really been that good since the 60's. Unemployment is down to 3.5% and getting lower! The stock market is soaring! The Dow Jones Industrial Average is at an all-time high! Much higher than it was under Obama! Although Obama did get the unemployment rate down, Trump is getting it even lower than he did! Obama also got the unemployment rate down for women and African Americans, however, you guessed it! Trump has gotten it even lower than he did! (so much for the racist). Gosh, he has down so so much for America already, I just don't have time to go through it all right now. He is a hero!
According the the Wall Street Journal, the Dow is down 6.7% for the year. And the past three months it is down 12.83%. So you are correct, the "stock market is soaring", but in the wrong direction.
 
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According the the Wall Street Journal, the Dow is down 6.7% for the year. And the past three months it is down 12.83%. So you are correct, the "stock market is soaring", but in the wrong direction.
I appreciate your reply. However, the Wall Street Journal is a newspaper, enough said. Regardless, the fact reminds that the economy is the strongest it has been in a long time. Here are the facts: https://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/economy-jobs/ but hey if you think a liberal newspaper is more factual than the government itself, then, by all means, indulge yourself in it. I for one trust the government over a newspaper lol. However, freedom of the press as they say.
 

Mike123

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The Wall Street Journal is the most unbiased Newspaper out there. It has an equal number of conservative and liberal subscribers. So I don't know why you said that it is a "liberal" newspaper. Not only that, but I can look at my own investment portfolio and I can calculate it myself, I don't need to look at a newspaper.
 

RickyZ

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I saw you disagreed with my post but had nothing else to say. Care to elaborate why you disagreed with all the facts I posted? They were government statistics. Are you an anarchist? Take care.
One man's facts are another man's fake news. It's clearly obvious you see the world thru orange-colored glasses, and pointing out all the fallacies in what you think would be pointless. Yes Trump has done some things that have needed doing for a long time, but again, if you think he's doing it for you and me you are sadly deceived.

I'm not an anarchist, just the opposite. I'm the lonely guy in the middle calling for the left and the right to abandon their extremes for the greater good. And trying to point out that BOTH parties are leading us astray.
 

calibob

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If you or anyone can remember seeing the original Manchurian Candidate with Frank Sinatra and Angela Lansbury can remember the Communists were using a so called conservative, 'Joe Mc Carthy' type to call names and hurl insults and accusations, in order to divide the nation and take over. The so called conservatives were too STUPID to realize to realize they were being used as tools by the very enemy they were against.
 
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One man's facts are another man's fake news. It's clearly obvious you see the world thru orange-colored glasses, and pointing out all the fallacies in what you think would be pointless. Yes Trump has done some things that have needed doing for a long time, but again, if you think he's doing it for you and me you are sadly deceived.

I'm not an anarchist, just the opposite. I'm the lonely guy in the middle calling for the left and the right to abandon their extremes for the greater good. And trying to point out that BOTH parties are leading us astray.
You got me! Wow, I mean, you were able to find out all of this about me from a single post on white house statistics: "It's clearly obvious you see the world thru orange-colored glasses, and pointing out all the fallacies in what you think would be pointless" and you also know exactly what I am thinking too! "if you think he's doing it for you and me you are sadly deceived." Amazing! I didn't know there were people out there with such special gifts, I mean, you figured out everything about me from a simple post about the economy. You should work in therapy and just ask your patients to mention the GDP of the country and you'll instantly know everything there is about that person :) Super cool!
 

RickyZ

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You got me! Wow, I mean, you were able to find out all of this about me from a single post on white house statistics: "It's clearly obvious you see the world thru orange-colored glasses, and pointing out all the fallacies in what you think would be pointless" and you also know exactly what I am thinking too! "if you think he's doing it for you and me you are sadly deceived." Amazing! I didn't know there were people out there with such special gifts, I mean, you figured out everything about me from a simple post about the economy. You should work in therapy and just ask your patients to mention the GDP of the country and you'll instantly know everything there is about that person :) Super cool!
Well the sarcasm is easy to diagnose ;).

Trump supporters are a curious lot. And while I hesitate to paint them all with the same brush, stereotypes become stereotypes for a reason. Trumpsters are undaunted by Trumps lies, which are multitude and easily exposed, and buy into his hyperbole lock stock and barrel, the truth be d@mned! Just looking at your original list of 'accomplishments' shows a disconnect between what truly is and what Trump and his cohorts claim. Trump aims his rhetoric at the right's lowest common denominator, and they just eat it up!

Now, in all fairness, again, Hillary would have been no better. We'd be a socialist mecca, pandering to the lowest left common denominator.

The point is, as long as those on both the left and the right keep drinking the red and blue cool-aid without question, we will keep being led by lying sycophants. Those who vote for the lesser of two evils will ensure that we will always be led by evil, regardless of color.
 
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Well the sarcasm is easy to diagnose ;).

Trump supporters are a curious lot. And while I hesitate to paint them all with the same brush, stereotypes become stereotypes for a reason. Trumpsters are undaunted by Trumps lies, which are multitude and easily exposed, and buy into his hyperbole lock stock and barrel, the truth be d@mned! Just looking at your original list of 'accomplishments' shows a disconnect between what truly is and what Trump and his cohorts claim. Trump aims his rhetoric at the right's lowest common denominator, and they just eat it up!

Now, in all fairness, again, Hillary would have been no better. We'd be a socialist mecca, pandering to the lowest left common denominator.

The point is, as long as those on both the left and the right keep drinking the red and blue cool-aid without question, we will keep being led by lying sycophants. Those who vote for the lesser of two evils will ensure that we will always be led by evil, regardless of color.
Perhaps there is truth to what you're saying but at the end of the day, all I am seeing is overall good news coming out of the white house and that the country's economy is doing very well! There is no doubt that he uses hyperbolic language to win over the crowd, but hey, we have all been taught to use hyperbolic language since day 1. I remember English literacy class being all about how to use persuasive language haha. Thus, hey, if he knows how to use it and use it effectively then good for him. However, lies? Now-now-now, he may add in white lies here and there but ultimately he is not lying about how well the country is doing, and to me, that is what matters most, results! Although, it is important to consider how one gets to those results too.
 

RickyZ

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Perhaps there is truth to what you're saying but at the end of the day, all I am seeing is overall good news coming out of the white house and that the country's economy is doing very well! There is no doubt that he uses hyperbolic language to win over the crowd, but hey, we have all been taught to use hyperbolic language since day 1. I remember English literacy class being all about how to use persuasive language haha. Thus, hey, if he knows how to use it and use it effectively then good for him. However, lies? Now-now-now, he may add in white lies here and there but ultimately he is not lying about how well the country is doing, and to me, that is what matters most, results! Although, it is important to consider how one gets to those results too.
White lies like promising to drain the swamp, and then packing it with creatures from the black lagoon (the very same people who tanked the world's economy in 2008)? White lies like promising "from day one" healthcare that was cheaper, more effective, and covered everyone, and then proposing a policy that stripped tens of millions of their health coverage so his fat cat buddies can have yet another tax break? White lies like promising tax reform that would hurt himself, then pushing thru tax reform that hands billions to the already mega-rich? White lie like saying corporations would invest their windfall in jobs and hiring, when it has actually gone to shareholders and buy-backs? White lies like assailing the Obummer deficits, and then piling on even greater deficits, again to line the pockets of his rich buddies? White lies like saying you're doing it all for Joe the plumber when every benefit you've raised has gone to Joe the CEO? The economy has been going strong for 8 years - long before Trump ever came into play, and now the market is whipping back and forth like a flag in a high gale. Don't listen to what's coming out of the white house, they're the ones serving the red cool-aid. Same with Fox news. CNN serves the blue. Read your Bible, then take a good unbiased look at the world around you. We are headed towards the antichrist taking over, and Trump Clinton Obummer Bush et all are but pawns to get us there. Don't listen to what the pawns are saying. Listen to what God is saying about the world to shortly come... and how we're going to get there.
 
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Hillary would have been no better.
She would have been far worse.

People hate trump because the left have painted him wth Hate. I have never witnessed so much hate in all my life. I may not agree wiht him on all he does. But then again, In my 35 years since i started to vote. I can;t think of any president where I did. I am so thankfull Uncle sam is not taking so much of my hard earned money in taxes. Even more blessed when I am forced to work alot of overtime, I see it all taken in taxes to the point is was not even working the hours.. At least now I bear the fruit of my labor.. It has been yars since I could say this.
 
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White lies like promising to drain the swamp, and then packing it with creatures from the black lagoon (the very same people who tanked the world's economy in 2008)? White lies like promising "from day one" healthcare that was cheaper, more effective, and covered everyone, and then proposing a policy that stripped tens of millions of their health coverage so his fat cat buddies can have yet another tax break? White lies like promising tax reform that would hurt himself, then pushing thru tax reform that hands billions to the already mega-rich? White lie like saying corporations would invest their windfall in jobs and hiring, when it has actually gone to shareholders and buy-backs? White lies like assailing the Obummer deficits, and then piling on even greater deficits, again to line the pockets of his rich buddies? White lies like saying you're doing it all for Joe the plumber when every benefit you've raised has gone to Joe the CEO? The economy has been going strong for 8 years - long before Trump ever came into play, and now the market is whipping back and forth like a flag in a high gale. Don't listen to what's coming out of the white house, they're the ones serving the red cool-aid. Same with Fox news. CNN serves the blue. Read your Bible, then take a good unbiased look at the world around you. We are headed towards the antichrist taking over, and Trump Clinton Obummer Bush et all are but pawns to get us there. Don't listen to what the pawns are saying. Listen to what God is saying about the world to shortly come... and how we're going to get there.
Oh boy.. Talk about believing in lies.
Trump has not taken a dime of pay for his year in office. My wife works in retail. There are so many jobs open, she can not hire enough workers. I am benefiting GREATLY from the tax credits.. and I woud only be considered middle class.

Stop istening to the left leanng news and start trying to look at reality.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Well the sarcasm is easy to diagnose ;).

Trump supporters are a curious lot. And while I hesitate to paint them all with the same brush, stereotypes become stereotypes for a reason. Trumpsters are undaunted by Trumps lies, which are multitude and easily exposed, and buy into his hyperbole lock stock and barrel, the truth be d@mned! Just looking at your original list of 'accomplishments' shows a disconnect between what truly is and what Trump and his cohorts claim. Trump aims his rhetoric at the right's lowest common denominator, and they just eat it up!

Now, in all fairness, again, Hillary would have been no better. We'd be a socialist mecca, pandering to the lowest left common denominator.

The point is, as long as those on both the left and the right keep drinking the red and blue cool-aid without question, we will keep being led by lying sycophants. Those who vote for the lesser of two evils will ensure that we will always be led by evil, regardless of color.
The only lies being told are from the liberal media. And it seems you bought them hook line and sinker. One of my best friends, Who would be considered lower class can finally afford medical insurance again (under obumma care it was cheaper for him to pay the tax penalty than pay for medical insurance which was basically useless) and even HE has benefited from the tax breaks

Try going out and talkign to people who know. And not listening to rich spoiled brats who think they know.
 
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Perhaps there is truth to what you're saying but at the end of the day, all I am seeing is overall good news coming out of the white house and that the country's economy is doing very well! There is no doubt that he uses hyperbolic language to win over the crowd, but hey, we have all been taught to use hyperbolic language since day 1. I remember English literacy class being all about how to use persuasive language haha. Thus, hey, if he knows how to use it and use it effectively then good for him. However, lies? Now-now-now, he may add in white lies here and there but ultimately he is not lying about how well the country is doing, and to me, that is what matters most, results! Although, it is important to consider how one gets to those results too.
I think one reason the media and left hates trump is trump can not be bought out.. If he feels in his heart he needs to do something, he will do it, and he does not care who disagrees. And this, in a politcal world where the people can buy a politician off (this goes for the left and right) is dangerous and scary for those who have no power. SInce they can not buy it, it scares them!

It was one of the selling points which got him into office
 

wolfwint

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He is destroying the world one day at a time. Christians should at no time
support his evil decisions because is they do, they are complicit in ugly
reign of terror. He aligns himself with other dictators and monsters of this
world while he is more than willing to destroying any allies who are trying
to build a precious world. He is a monstrous liar, a cheat, a phoney, a con man
and the world's biggest charlatan. Christians need to immediately cease and
desist supporting this "evil one" by aiding him in his destructive ways.
Is it not God himself is chosing the leader of this world? Even the bad ones so that is revealation is coming true. We are in the last part of the endtimes. What we do expect? Love? Righteousness? Leader which following God? I suppose that God is useing Trump for His purpose.
 
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The antichrist is going to be homosexual, so I don't think Trump fits the Bill, even though he seems to be a man of sin.

If Joan Rivers is right, Obama might.

When the NWO is announced, 1 of the horns will be wounded in the head and come back to life Satan possessed, this will be the Antichrist. The Antichrist will proclaim he is God and enforce the mark.
 

RickyZ

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Rep Schiff of California is bringing impeachment articles against Trump.

Take Pelosi with you, will ya Donald?
 
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That's NOT what the seventh day adventists teach, she said that "one day" when the governments of the world LEGISLATE a SUNDAY LAW and thereby....WILL ENFORCE EVERYONE to "abide by ROMES decree" which AFTER the LEADERS of the world give their "power and AUTHORITY to the BEAST" (papacy), THEN IF ANYONE goes along with a day which has NO higher authority than that of MAN **SUNDAY**, individuals WILL THEN either give their ALLEGIANCE to the KING of KINGS and LORD of LORD'S by KEEPING HIS SABBATH or by giving their ALLEGIANCE to the bishop of Rome and pay HOMAGE to him WILL take "THE MARK of the BEAST". Do you and I see religious leaders COMING TOGETHER, in their ECUMENICAL councils? Last year was the 500th year of Martin Luther nailing his 95 thesis to the door of the church in Wittenberg Germany, do you know what took place between the Lutheran church and the catholic church? Something that if we told the protestant forefathers what would happen, they would have NEVER believed what took place. Lutherans" CAPITULATED and "CAVED IN" and have APOLOGISED for THEM separating from the church of rome! And WHO told you that the SABBATH was just for the jews? THE SABBATH of THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY was "INSTITUTED" in Eden some 2500 years BEFORE there EVER WAS a JEW!!!! WHAT are you talking about man? Our GOD DOESN'T CHANGE, HE HAS a GOVERNMENT of ORDER. The WORD of GOD states "Jesus Christ the SAME yesterday,TODAY and FOREVER" and Jesus said "do NOT think that I've come to DESTROY the LAW, BUT to FULFILL the LAW" , which means, to give you and I an EXAMPLE of the way that HIS FOLLOWERS WILL do what HE bids of them. "Until heaven and earth pass away NOT one JOT or TITTLE SHALL pass from the LAW" , I'm sorry is heaven STILL above and the earth under our feet.....then ALL 10 of HIS
COMMANDMENTS ARE STILL BINDING. And the "CROSS of CALVARY" ATTESTS to this FACT. Individual's would have an EXCUSE to WHY their admittance to heaven is DENIED due to the someone saying "that's NOT fair to GOD, that you should have ONE STANDARD for one group of people and another for the other group", that's DISORDER and THE LORD is NOT and does NOT have HIS GOVERNMENT as SUCH.
This is what happened in heaven prior to the CREATION of this world. The angels of heaven REBELLED AGAINST the GOVERNMENT of GOD.....AGAINST HIS HOLY LAW and NOW, satan and the other angels that went along with him, carry the SAME "ARGUMENT HERE" . By inspiring FALSE TEACHERS to say the same exact thing!!
That people say either "it's IMPOSSIBLE to KEEP the LAW of GOD" or as the "so called" EVANGELICAL preachers say "Christians NO LONGER have to OBEY the LAW of GOD". That was "nailed to the cross" or "Jesus KEPT it for us" or what you just said, "it was for the jews".
Where is our reasoning today? And WHY do we have these STUBBORN HARDHEARTS in us to say such things? Dude I was a catholic.......you KNOW---- the church which made up the SUNDAY, they have NO PROBLEM saying it and NO PROBLEM "PROUDLY BOASTING", that the CHANGE IS their MARK of AUTHORITY, I have the publications and the papal BULLS which say this VERY THING.
That's NOT what the seventh day adventists teach, she said that "one day" when the governments of the world LEGISLATE a SUNDAY LAW and thereby....WILL ENFORCE EVERYONE to "abide by ROMES decree" which AFTER the LEADERS of the world give their "power and AUTHORITY to the BEAST" (papacy), THEN IF ANYONE goes along with a day which has NO higher authority than that of MAN **SUNDAY**, individuals WILL THEN either give their ALLEGIANCE to the KING of KINGS and LORD of LORD'S by KEEPING HIS SABBATH or by giving their ALLEGIANCE to the bishop of Rome and pay HOMAGE to him WILL take "THE MARK of the BEAST". Do you and I see religious leaders COMING TOGETHER, in their ECUMENICAL councils? Last year was the 500th year of Martin Luther nailing his 95 thesis to the door of the church in Wittenberg Germany, do you know what took place between the Lutheran church and the catholic church? Something that if we told the protestant forefathers what would happen, they would have NEVER believed what took place. Lutherans" CAPITULATED and "CAVED IN" and have APOLOGISED for THEM separating from the church of rome! And WHO told you that the SABBATH was just for the jews? THE SABBATH of THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY was "INSTITUTED" in Eden some 2500 years BEFORE there EVER WAS a JEW!!!! WHAT are you talking about man? Our GOD DOESN'T CHANGE, HE HAS a GOVERNMENT of ORDER. The WORD of GOD states "Jesus Christ the SAME yesterday,TODAY and FOREVER" and Jesus said "do NOT think that I've come to DESTROY the LAW, BUT to FULFILL the LAW" , which means, to give you and I an EXAMPLE of the way that HIS FOLLOWERS WILL do what HE bids of them. "Until heaven and earth pass away NOT one JOT or TITTLE SHALL pass from the LAW" , I'm sorry is heaven STILL above and the earth under our feet.....then ALL 10 of HIS
COMMANDMENTS ARE STILL BINDING. And the "CROSS of CALVARY" ATTESTS to this FACT. Individual's would have an EXCUSE to WHY their admittance to heaven is DENIED due to the someone saying "that's NOT fair to GOD, that you should have ONE STANDARD for one group of people and another for the other group", that's DISORDER and THE LORD is NOT and does NOT have HIS GOVERNMENT as SUCH.
This is what happened in heaven prior to the CREATION of this world. The angels of heaven REBELLED AGAINST the GOVERNMENT of GOD.....AGAINST HIS HOLY LAW and NOW, satan and the other angels that went along with him, carry the SAME "ARGUMENT HERE" . By inspiring FALSE TEACHERS to say the same exact thing!!
That people say either "it's IMPOSSIBLE to KEEP the LAW of GOD" or as the "so called" EVANGELICAL preachers say "Christians NO LONGER have to OBEY the LAW of GOD". That was "nailed to the cross" or "Jesus KEPT it for us" or what you just said, "it was for the jews".
Where is our reasoning today? And WHY do we have these STUBBORN HARDHEARTS in us to say such things? Dude I was a catholic.......you KNOW---- the church which made up the SUNDAY, they have NO PROBLEM saying it and NO PROBLEM "PROUDLY BOASTING", that the CHANGE IS their MARK of AUTHORITY, I have the publications and the papal BULLS which say this VERY THING.
If you think the adventist are keeping all 10 commandments you are wrong. They do not keep the 6th in that their hospitals do more abortatins then non churched hospitals do . They also tell lies because they keep this a secret. Since you are a relative new adventist you need to research all the mistakes in ellen whites books. I have just come out of being a adventist because of these things. email me if you want more information on ellen white. This is your salvation you are talking about, be careful .
 
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Gracie_14

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The antichrist is going to be homosexual, so I don't think Trump fits the Bill, even though he seems to be a man of sin.

If Joan Rivers is right, Obama might.

When the NWO is announced, 1 of the horns will be wounded in the head and come back to life Satan possessed, this will be the Antichrist. The Antichrist will proclaim he is God and enforce the mark.
Hmmm...interesting...Obama was a good candidate for being the Antichrist but there are few things that don't qualify him to be one.

Though, I believe the Antichrist will be a clone...