Rightly divided

I have come to believe that through Paul’s epistles.....we are truly free from the bondage of the law, which is sin....I believe that those that are truly in Christ, are not under the jurisdiction of it....Paul said “nothing is unlawful unto me”.....he says this because he is fully persuaded of the truth....In Romans 14, it is clear to me, that if I do not cast a stumbling block before my weaker brethren, I have no chains in my liberty....furthermore, those of you that teach, or indoctrinate your fellow man, to impute sin upon himself, as most of the corporate church doctrine has come to do....are commiting heiracy...many pastors of the church age today...teach the congregation to impute sin upon themselves, when they are no longer slaves to the law...it is expedient to recognize what sin is and use it as a tool wisely, but heiracy to scare your congregation with hellfire, in the sense that if they do not stop sinning, they will die in that sin and go to hell....it is one of the great deceptions that Satan has used to water down what grace was intended to be....I have seen too many families torn apart by the judgement of one another as the doctrine has taken hold in so many throughout the church....Follow Paul, as he is the apostle to the Gentiles....you have no business in the 4 gospels, in which was Christ’s earthly ministry....under the law......I post this for edification, I would love for anyone to chime in on this amazing gift of salvation

So is Abraham saved?

No one kept the law. But Christ. The requirement was perfection.

People did keep the ordinances of the Law. Remember, it's just not about obeying the commandments but offering up the sacrifice when a commandment was broken.

How many times do you have to be shown What paul said in Gal 3, in quote of Moses words when he gave the law that said one must confirm and obey EVER word. Or they would be under a curse.

The sacrifices did nothing to help a person get saved.

He quoted James 2 + others in post #350. What do you disagree with that James said?

Luke 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV)
5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

It is true that Zacharias and Elizabeth may never have met Jesus, being stricken in years. But they kept the law of Moses and were blameless. Will they be saved?

Those verses would seem to be problematic because If they were able to keep the law with their own strength then why did JESUS come to earth.

They were washed in the blood of Christ because they “believed” repentance is not a prerequisite for salvation....you do not seem to comprehend that Christ died for the sin of the entire world....you quote scripture and cherry pick to make a point that is void of grace in its fullness

They were washed in the blood of Christ because they “believed” repentance is not a prerequisite for salvation....you do not seem to comprehend that Christ died for the sin of the entire world....you quote scripture and cherry pick to make a point that is void of grace in its fullness

You are right about there being no sin that will keep those that he died for from going to heaven. The thing that you are mistaken on is that Jesus did not die for the entire world, because all that he did die for he will raise them up at the last day and there are too many scriptures that say that all will not go to heaven.

I’m Not talking about salvation.

As you should know, I don’t believe they were “saved” eternally upon death like you and I. The best they could earn is escaping eternal condemnation and being kept safe in Abraham’s bosom. If they were saved, they would have been present with the Lord upon death.

One could attain righteousness under the law by keeping the ordinances. However, this was self righteousness through obedience and not God’s righteousness through Jesus Christ.

If Christ died for the sins of the entire world, then the entire world will be raised up at the last day, and I do not believe that is so. All that Christ died for he will raise up at the last day, without the lose of even one (John 6:39).

He DID die for the entire world, the problem is that not all will believe it!

How do you interpret John 6:39? God saw by his foreknowledge (Psalms 53:2-3) that none would seek (believe) him, no, not one. That is why in Eph 1 he choose an elect people and had his Son to be a sacrifice for their sins to clean them up and stand them before him as holy and without blame. Jesus's sacrifice was to God for God's acceptance, not a sacrifice to man for man's acceptance, The natural man cannot discern the things of the Spirit (1 Cor 2:14) until he has been given the Holy Spirit in the new birth (Eph 2:5).

How do you interpret John 6:39? God saw by his foreknowledge (Psalms 53:2-3) that none would seek (believe) him, no, not one. That is why in Eph 1 he choose an elect people and had his Son to be a sacrifice for their sins to clean them up and stand them before him as holy and without blame. Jesus's sacrifice was to God for God's acceptance, not a sacrifice to man for man's acceptance, The natural man cannot discern the things of the Spirit (1 Cor 2:14) until he has been given the Holy Spirit in the new birth (Eph 2:5).

Do you think anyone understood that Jesus was a sacrifice during Christ’s earthly ministry? They tried to defend him... even the deciples like (doubting) Thomas needed proof of his death, to touch the holes on his hands so he may believe .Peter denied know him 3 times...
You correctly interprete scripture, but notice how you confirm it with the epistles of Paul....God knew the mystery all along, as did Christ, but no one else understood. You said yourself, Ephesians 1, brings the understanding, this was Paul, revealing the mystery. You hear of prophetic words, and hints though scripture before Paul reveals it...But it was not understood fully until Paul revealed it....this is the rightly dividing of scripture. Paul’s message (his) gospel brings salvation to the world, it is also the gospel used to confirm the prophetic scripture in the gospels of Mathew, Luke, Mark and John, even the OT.....we are now left with neither Jew nor gentile, 1 gospel

John 6:
38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Left on their own, No one would seek christ as Ps 53 says, But the world is not left on its own. Thats why God send all the things. (Including the HS). He. Has sent, including the church, to help draw people to christ.

I agree with you that the gospel confirms how our eternal salvation was accomplished and it was by Christs death, burial and resurrection, not by believing the gospel. Believing is by revelation of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which was given in regeneration.(Eph 2:5) The carnal man cannot discern the things of the Spirit (1 Cor 2:14). The apostles and prophets of old did not understand fully until Jesus ascended and sent the Holy Ghost.

John 6:
38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Left on their own, No one would seek christ as Ps 53 says, But the world is not left on its own. Thats why God send all the things. (Including the HS). He. Has sent, including the church, to help draw people to christ.