Are the Gospels written specifically to Jews only?

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Hevosmies

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Well, looks like Luke is only for Greek people. There must be dozens of Gospels! I'm kind of a dark-blond haired blue-eyed dude. Scottish by ancestry. Wonder what I'm supposed to obey???? I'll roll some dice and hope I get it right, my soul depends on it! Also, it's possible I could have some Greek DNA, maybe some Jewish too. Who knows? :p
I suggest you do some DNA testing to figure out what you are supposed to obey. If it comes out half-greek half-jewish, oy vey! We got ourselves in a pickle. Maybe obey half of what Jesus said? Me personally, im not roman, galatian, or ephesian or corinthian, so im extremely fortunate that I can just bypass those letters completely. My name isnt Titus or Timothy, so those are out too. I flipped through the book of Revelation, but I dont attend any of the churches mentioned there so thats not for me either.
I wonder which "Gospel" got termed "the everlasting Gospel" in Revelation 14:6? Maybe a few of "the others" (Galatians 1:8-10) got ditched or something? (Can't wait for the text to be wrested into one or the other of the varieties of false gospels people are wielding on this forum).
I can tell you how this is twisted:

They say that there is only one gospel and all others are accursed in THIS dispensation. But when the rapture happens, a new dispensation comes in, and a new gospel, the everlasting Gospel.
Now obviously this raises some concern as to how it can be everlasting, if it wasnt previously and then is, but lets not FACTS get in the way of our heresy here.
 
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I suggest you do some DNA testing to figure out what you are supposed to obey. If it comes out half-greek half-jewish, oy vey! We got ourselves in a pickle. Maybe obey half of what Jesus said? Me personally, im not roman, galatian, or ephesian or corinthian, so im extremely fortunate that I can just bypass those letters completely. My name isnt Titus or Timothy, so those are out too. I flipped through the book of Revelation, but I dont attend any of the churches mentioned there so thats not for me either.

I can tell you how this is twisted:

They say that there is only one gospel and all others are accursed in THIS dispensation. But when the rapture happens, a new dispensation comes in, and a new gospel, the everlasting Gospel.
Now obviously this raises some concern as to how it can be everlasting, if it wasnt previously and then is, but lets not FACTS get in the way of our heresy here.
We can thank DispenSENSATIONALISM and Dallas Theological Seminary which leads them along in error. Mix in a little Finneyism and *voila* a hybrid heretic is born. But they "Follow no man!!!!"

Uh-huh.
 

John146

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We can thank DispenSENSATIONALISM and Dallas Theological Seminary which leads them along in error. Mix in a little Finneyism and *voila* a hybrid heretic is born. But they "Follow no man!!!!"

Uh-huh.
You too are a dispensationalist, but don't even know it. You understand that God has given truth to man throughout history, and has added to that truth in the process of time (progressive revelation). The truth God gave Adam to live by was not the same directions He gave Noah. Noah's directions were not the same as God gave to Abraham and so on. That's dispensations at its core. One can get messed up big time by not understanding dispensations. Hence, many quote Jeremiah 29:11 and place those promises to themselves today.
 

Grandpa

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This would get really confusing if you thought that some of the Lords words were just for the jews and some of His Word is for the New Covenant of Grace.

John 10:7-9
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

Well thankfully we have scripture that actually tells us that people who say there are two gospels are incorrect.

Galatians 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I think we tend to over complicate things. Jesus spoke from the old covenant into the new. While he had yet gone to the cross he had yet to go to the cross he forgave people of their sins.
 

Lanolin

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Yea shame theres not letters in the Bible personally addressed to Lanolin. I just dont know how I was saved then? Maybe God forgot? Or..did I save myself?

Um..,
 

JaumeJ

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It seems to me the Bible is directed to all of us, personally but there are no "letters" directed to us by name………… There are people who believe Jesus Christ who are not able to read, and I have learned from at least one of them so our Father provides fro each of us in the way we need to know.

Of course most of us can read and shuold………….It is such joy to worship our Father, and that joy is just beginning. All blessings to all who are in Christ, Yeshua, amen...….and to those who will be too.
 

Blik

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If people define Old Testament as the Old covenant of the Law, and New Testament as the New covenant of Grace, the 4 Gospels are actually as OT as the rest of the OT.

In the 4 Gospels, Jesus was living under the Law, and sent only to those who are under the Law, which are the Jews, and preach obedience to the Law.

Unfortunately, I think there are too many churches in the world now who preach from the 4 Gospels so much that, when you point that out, they will get very upset.
People get so hung up on the law and what it means to them, getting it all mixed up. They get so mixed up because God used the Hebrew race to explain God to all. And that new and old stuff gets drug through the mud.

God created the world as an orderly world that operates smoothly when the right ways are used for that operation. Those who refuse to know of this way do not make it in the kingdom of heaven.

Scripture is the story of God making plans for all to live in the kingdom with Him. All through this story we call scripture it is clearly stated that God sees everyone as the same, as God's creation. God gives thanks to the Hebrew for the use God made of them and asks us to share with Him in giving that thanks.

The covenants God made with us, or God's promises to us, are not promises that cancel anything, a new promise adds to an old one, doesn't cancel the old. God is without time, God is "I Am" and what was at creation and what is now is the same.

We are to keep these facts in mind as we read God's word, and know how God gives the gospel to the Jew first and then to the gentile.
 

Lanolin

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May I have a turn at asking a dopey question.

Who is John calvin and whats so great about him. Did God only elect calvinists?
 

Blik

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I think we tend to over complicate things. Jesus spoke from the old covenant into the new. While he had yet gone to the cross he had yet to go to the cross he forgave people of their sins.
I get so confused with what in the world people are thinking to come up with this new and old applied to the Lord. God is not eternal? Did God have no salvation or grace for 4,000 years until Christ came and got rid of the old man God? Strange scripture that people have, I have four translations and they don't speak like this. In my scripture God and Christ are one and Christ is the same in all scripture, Christ becoming a man fulfilled all that was spoken of Him. In my scripture Christ was there at the beginning and is now. A continuation, nothing new, nothing old.
 

tanakh

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The answer is No. Adam wasn't Jewish, or Abraham In fact no one apart from the tribe of Judah were Jewish
 

Churinga

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People get so hung up on the law and what it means to them, getting it all mixed up. They get so mixed up because God used the Hebrew race to explain God to all. And that new and old stuff gets drug through the mud.

God created the world as an orderly world that operates smoothly when the right ways are used for that operation. Those who refuse to know of this way do not make it in the kingdom of heaven.

Scripture is the story of God making plans for all to live in the kingdom with Him. All through this story we call scripture it is clearly stated that God sees everyone as the same, as God's creation. God gives thanks to the Hebrew for the use God made of them and asks us to share with Him in giving that thanks.

The covenants God made with us, or God's promises to us, are not promises that cancel anything, a new promise adds to an old one, doesn't cancel the old. God is without time, God is "I Am" and what was at creation and what is now is the same.

We are to keep these facts in mind as we read God's word, and know how God gives the gospel to the Jew first and then to the gentile.
Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles Gospel cannot be found in the Gospels.
Now I would remind you, brothers,1 of the gospel gI preached to you, which you received, hin which you stand, 2 and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.
3 For lI delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised oon the third day pin accordance with the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.
 
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There is but one Gospel for all…..…….
First, lets look at Luke 9:6.
6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.

This passage clearly states that the 12 were "preaching the gospel". But what gospel did they preach? Was it the same as what Paul said in 1 Cor? It was later on in Luke 18:33-34 that we found out

33 and after they have scourged Him, they will kill Him; and the third day He will rise again.” 34 But the disciples understood none of these things, and the meaning of this statement was hidden from them, and they did not comprehend the things that were said.

So the simple point is, "how could the Disciples be teaching Paul’s gospel of grace– the death, burial and resurrection (I Corinthians 15:1-4) if they didn’t know about the death, burial and resurrection?"

The 12 were teaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. The 12 were not wrong. They were doing what they had been told to do. They didn’t have to understand the divine exchange, all they need to do was to acknowledge that Jesus is the Messiah.
 

Blik

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Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles Gospel cannot be found in the Gospels.
Now I would remind you, brothers,1 of the gospel gI preached to you, which you received, hin which you stand, 2 and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.
3 For lI delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised oon the third day pin accordance with the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.
This is repeating my post, it is what was set at the time of Adam and Eve, Christ fulfilled. It is a continuation of the salvation plan of God and is eternal.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I get so confused with what in the world people are thinking to come up with this new and old applied to the Lord. God is not eternal? Did God have no salvation or grace for 4,000 years until Christ came and got rid of the old man God? Strange scripture that people have, I have four translations and they don't speak like this. In my scripture God and Christ are one and Christ is the same in all scripture, Christ becoming a man fulfilled all that was spoken of Him. In my scripture Christ was there at the beginning and is now. A continuation, nothing new, nothing old.
Do you sacrifice animals for sin? Do you make drink offerings, wave offerings?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I get so confused with what in the world people are thinking to come up with this new and old applied to the Lord. God is not eternal? Did God have no salvation or grace for 4,000 years until Christ came and got rid of the old man God? Strange scripture that people have, I have four translations and they don't speak like this. In my scripture God and Christ are one and Christ is the same in all scripture, Christ becoming a man fulfilled all that was spoken of Him. In my scripture Christ was there at the beginning and is now. A continuation, nothing new, nothing old.
And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.
Luke 22:20 NASB
Looks like Jesus said it was a new covenant.
" The NEW covenant in My blood."
 

Blik

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Do you sacrifice animals for sin? Do you make drink offerings, wave offerings?
Do you read scripture at all? We are told all about the sacrifice of animals, why they were sacrificed and how we are to learn from it now. Have you any idea at ALL about the spirit of our Lord God?
 

Blik

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And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.
Luke 22:20 NASB
Looks like Jesus said it was a new covenant.
" The NEW covenant in My blood."
Did Christ tell you that He destroyed all the old covenants when Christ added something new?
 

Nehemiah6

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Did Christ tell you that He destroyed all the old covenants when Christ added something new?
That should be Old Covenant (singular). When Christ died on the cross, He literally fulfilled and nullified the Old Covenant (within the Law of Moses). For details kindly read and study the epistle to the Hebrews.

At the same time, the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants will be properly fulfilled UNDER THE NEW COVENANT and after the Second Coming of Christ.