Has God Disappeared

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Noblemen

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Writing attributed to Don Byrd


We don’t need a new God, and we don’t need a new Bible; all we need is a revelation into our Father’s grace, which is where He is hidden because of the blindness of our minds!

"And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart”
(2 Cor. 3:13–15).

God has never hidden His Son from anyone or anything but has totally
and fully revealed Him in all His glory. The veil is over our minds and is by no means over our Father’s Son. Our Father is not ashamed of His Son, therefore putting a veil over Him. What is wrong with us? Our minds are the problem that keeps us from entering into the revelation of Christ the Son as written to us by theApostle Paul.
“Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away” (2 Cor. 3:16).

When the mind turns to the Lord, the veil will be removed as the Holy Spirit begins to reveal Christ in the believer. The eternal ministry of the Holy Spirit is to reveal Christ in you! But believers make the Holy Spirit’s ministry ineffective simply because they do not know that the person of Christ lives in them! So what is
the answer to the dilemma of believers not knowing Christ lives in them? Very simply, someone needs to tell the believer, and this is exactly what Paul does in each of his epistles. This same ministry is given to every born-again believer who knows about the in-Christ position.

“But even unto this day,
when Moses is read, the
veil is upon their heart” (2
Cor. 3:13–15).

In essence, this means that if the
believer resorts to the law or anything other than grace, it is the same as putting the veil back on the mind so that it will remain blind! Putting the veil back on is an attempt to look at “that which is abolished” as the last part of 2 Corinthians 3:13 states. The veil kept the children of Israel from seeing the end of the law! The law was the veil that blinded their minds so that they could not see Christ as the Son.

Grace is the only thing that will remove the veil and bring the “I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son”–grace relationship (Heb. 1:5) into focus for the born-again believer. Without grace, the believer has no understanding of
the Father-son relationship of the believer. It is as though God has entered into the realm of grace and has closed this realm in upon Himself so that He cannot be found except through understanding the grace relaionship!

This means that none of the things of Hebrews 1:1 (Old Testament methods of “time past”) can be used to find Him!

“God, who at sundry
times and in divers man-
ners spake in time past
unto the fathers by the
prophets” (Heb. 1:1).
 

Journeyman

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Jan 10, 2019
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#2
It's amazing how we can read the same passage of scripture and see opposite meanings.I see Heb.1 saying the Prophets testified of God's Son and then he appeared.
 

Lanolin

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#3
There was a veil in the the temple separating God from man in the holy of holies. When Jesus died that veil was torn from top to bottom.

Interesting that veils are still worn in weddings for brides. The veil is removed to reveal her glory to the groom. Traditonally the groom is not meant to see the bride face to face before the wedding. In some countries women still wear veils all the time. Imagine going round with a veil over your face every single day. You could hardly see anything, and nobody could see you.
 

Lanolin

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#4
Dont hide your light under a bushel...let your light shine before men so that people may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

Why is the last book of the Bible called REVELATION? Cos God wants to reveal to us His glory.

I just love that book. Without knowing what Jesus revealed to John, how would any of us contemplate what heaven is going to be like? But with His word, we have a glimpse.

When Moses saw God for the first time God did appear as a burning bush. I guess He had to attract Moses attention somehow.
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#5
There was a veil in the the temple separating God from man in the holy of holies. When Jesus died that veil was torn from top to bottom.

Interesting that veils are still worn in weddings for brides. The veil is removed to reveal her glory to the groom. Traditonally the groom is not meant to see the bride face to face before the wedding. In some countries women still wear veils all the time. Imagine going round with a veil over your face every single day. You could hardly see anything, and nobody could see you.
In some cases? Not seeing her face could be a blessing! :p:p:p

Just kidding! Honestly!

Call it a "comic relief" moment! :)
 

Noblemen

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#6
In some cases? Not seeing her face could be a blessing! :p:p:p

Just kidding! Honestly!

Call it a "comic relief" moment! :)

Lol says the man with nuns as an Avatar lol funny comment you get points for that one haha