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John Calvin said it better than I.

Ephesians 2:10. For we are his work. By setting aside the contrary supposition, he proves his statement, that by grace we are saved, -- that we have no remaining works by which we can merit salvation; for all the good works which we possess are the fruit of regeneration. Hence it follows, that works themselves are a part of grace.

Calvin's commentary

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...He says, that, before we were born, the good works were prepared by God; meaning, that in our own strength we are not able to lead a holy life, but only so far as we are formed and adapted by the hand of God. Now, if the grace of God came before our performances, all ground of boasting has been taken away. Let us carefully observe the word prepared. On the simple ground of the order of events, Paul rests the proof that, with respect to good works, God owes us nothing. How so? Because they were drawn out of his treasures, in which they had long before been laid up; for whom he called, them he justifies and regenerates. Calvin commentary, Ephesians 2:10
There are many who agree with what I have been saying. I know that doesnt make it true, but when you call me a false teacher or a twister of scripture, you are calling them the same. I will post more writers and quotes later, as I don't have time right now.
 
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Sorry, I only have Calvin's commentary on my phone and have no internet. I will make a single post with more than one, many, Christian writers who agree with me, then you can decide if we are all false teachers and twisters of scripture. One more quote from Calvin.

We must look to Paul's design. He intends to shew that we have brought nothing to God, by which he might be laid under obligations to us; and he shews that even the good works which we perform have come from God (Calvin, Ephesians 2:10)
 

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The gospel song say's appropriately; "Jesus paid it all all to Him I owe."

1 Corinthians 1:27-31
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But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28) God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things and the things that are not to nullify the things that are, 29) so that no one may boast before him. 30) It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31) Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”
 
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OH OH! Now you've done it!

you should know that John Calvin isnt very liked nor popular in this website :D

Oy vey! Get ready!
Don't worry. He's not the only one. I bet 90 percent of the commentaries I look at will agree with me.
 
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The gospel song say's appropriately; "Jesus paid it all all to Him I owe."

1 Corinthians 1:27-31
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But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28) God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things and the things that are not to nullify the things that are, 29) so that no one may boast before him. 30) It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31) Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”
AMEN. exactly my point this whole time. Hallelujah, someone gets it!
 

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Sorry, I only have Calvin's commentary on my phone and have no internet. I will make a single post with more than one, many, Christian writers who agree with me, then you can decide if we are all false teachers and twisters of scripture. One more quote from Calvin.

We must look to Paul's design. He intends to shew that we have brought nothing to God, by which he might be laid under obligations to us; and he shews that even the good works which we perform have come from God (Calvin, Ephesians 2:10)
The only way John Calvin could have said LESS is if would have said more his false teachings and those who preach it has sent more people to hell from a church pew than all others combined.
There is one thing worse than no security and that is false security

I say stick with the scriptures and leave those common taters (lol)
On the shelf especially those close to being Catholic and baptized babies
 

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I do believe there is a difference. A Christian would like to do better!
A lost man wouldnt care

I never claimed to know much by the way so I dont know where you got that? In fact if you go through my posts here I have mentioned my LACK of knowledge/education. I only completed mandatory education and didnt even ENTER H.S! I've been educated for less than a DECADE in my life! Thats all I need. Not many of my people are well educated, READ more if you wish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
Hi Hevosmies, thank you for sharing it is good that Jesus made us all brothers and sister's "One God one family...:)

Ephesians 4:3-8
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and with diligence to preserve the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4) There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5) one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6) one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. 7) Now to each one of us grace has been given according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 8) This is why it says:
“When He ascended on high,
He led captives away,
and gave gifts to men.”
 

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Don't worry. He's not the only one. I bet 90 percent of the commentaries I look at will agree with me.
I tell you someone who doesn't believe In unconditional eternal security is the DEVIL!
If the devil believed this nonsense he would leave the church alone but the Bible warns he walks about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour so maybe you need to educate the devil so he leaves the church alone
 

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The gospel song say's appropriately; "Jesus paid it all all to Him I owe."

1 Corinthians 1:27-31
27)
But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28) God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things and the things that are not to nullify the things that are, 29) so that no one may boast before him. 30) It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31) Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”
Hi forum, I got a red X by a poster named "PROTESTANTHERETICS", for this post that I wrote above, but he did not leave any commentary just a red X, I wish he would tell everyone why he disagrees with my post. Otherwise maybe he is just a troll making problems.
 
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Let me answer your question with a question and then I will respond.

Do you think a believer should repent when they commit sin?
If a believer understands lieing is a sin, yet in a moment, lies, how can that person repent? Did he all of a sudden forget lieing was a sin?
 
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Im sorry I missed the first part of your response. Obviously paul thought Christians could sin in ways that could bar them from the kingdom of Heaven for he warned the Galatians of such. I guess we have to decide if we believe him or dismiss his letters, what do you think?
Oh he did?

Did paul over rule jesus who said all manner of sin and blasphemy WILL be forgiven men?

Why do you think your sin does not stink?
 
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Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Romans 11:20‭-‬22 KJV

This should be a warning to us all
Rom 11 is talking about national isreal vs gentile believers, not the salvation of any single person

Context wouod halp you greatly, paul did not contradict himself, as your trying to make him do
 

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If a believer understands lieing is a sin, yet in a moment, lies, how can that person repent? Did he all of a sudden forget lieing was a sin?
Did David know that adultery and murder was a sin while he committed them???? Certainly he did
yet he repented giving us the book of Psalms chapter 51

So if you think you can sin like David then you must also believe you have to repent like David
 
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Did David know that adultery and murder was a sin while he committed them???? Certainly he did
yet he repented giving us the book of Psalms chapter 51

So if you think you can sin like David then you must also believe you have to repent like David
Your confused

David did not repent in john 51, he adknowledged and confessed his sin,
 

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Rom 11 is talking about national isreal vs gentile believers, not the salvation of any single person

Context wouod halp you greatly, paul did not contradict himself, as your trying to make him do[/QUOTE

Ive notice this argument alot on here. When you find a scripture that totally proves your false doctrine wrong you just say oh that verse isn't for us!!

Let me ask you, how big is your bible?
After ripping out all the books not written to you and for you, your bible must be very small......maybe one or two verses even

Since the book of Romans was written to the church at rome, do we throw out the entire book?

Or maybe we should balance scripture with scripture and let the Word speak for itself and remember what Paul told Timothy
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:16 KJV
 

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Your confused

David did not repent in john 51, he adknowledged and confessed his sin,
Have you took your medicine today???

Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.
Psalms 51:1‭-‬4 KJV

That's just a few of the versus. I can go on and on
 

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Did David know that adultery and murder was a sin while he committed them???? Certainly he did
yet he repented giving us the book of Psalms chapter 51

So if you think you can sin like David then you must also believe you have to repent like David
David should have been put to death under the law.

Why not?
 
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Have you took your medicine today???

Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.
Psalms 51:1‭-‬4 KJV

That's just a few of the versus. I can go on and on
I should have known i would get a derogetory remark, you all are full of them,

Back at you, Have you studied your hebrew and greek lately?

1. The word repent is no where to be found
2. Again, he confessed/acknowledged his sin, (look at what you posted you will see i am right) or continue in trying to prove me wrong and fail,


H did as john told us to do when we sin, and as peter told us to do, confess our sins, not only to god, but each other. he did not repent
Repent means to change your mind or view, david did not change his mind, he confessed that he commited a sin.