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Well done getting through Leviticus Ive read it once on my first read through of the Bible but not fully studied it in depth.
Our group is studying Numbers at the moment at up to chapter 22 we just go through different books at a time but as far as I know havent tackled Leviticus!
Everyone kind of groans when talking about Leviticus but just remember Jesus mother Mary was familiar with the tribe of Levi and thus his ancestors were the ones set apart to serve the tabernacle and they had to make sure everything was correct. Remember Marys cousin elizabeth was married to zachariah a levite so actually there were family connections there, I am not convinced that both Mary and Joseph were from the tribe of Judah as some assert though Joseph definitely was.

I also found that theres actually a full scale replica of the tabernacle theyve constructed in Israel to show everyone what it looked like. See if you can google where it is.
 
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Interesting...any thoughts...

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Its the result of natural unconverted man. One that must walk or understand God not seen by the things made as if he was a man as us..

They simply did not desire one who informed them his flesh profits for nothing. They need to flesh to count without it they have no hope.

They are the one who witness a invisible work of God and accredit to the flesh . Making fleshly gods in the likeness of men . Observing what Paul had done as the spirit of faith worked to heal the person

Acts 14:11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.

That the Bible calls them workers with familiar spirits .They violate the first commandment not to have any gods before our living God who alone dwells in the holy unseen place of the hidden glory of God. The holy place of faith the unseen reserved for our one father in heaven ..

Catholicism has over 3500 availed with teraphims, idol images needede to put a face on the disembodied spirits of family members that they must call patron saints. The unbelieving Jew practiced the same thing.
 
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Interesting...any thoughts..
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Not sure if that is an accurate description of early Hebrews.

Anyhow, it is significant that Leviticus begins with all the OFFERINGS, since the Gospel also begins with the offering of the Lamb of God as the ultimate sacrifice for sins (Isaiah 53). Without those offerings, Israel would not have been able to function as a theocracy. And without the offering of Christ, the New Covenant could not have been established, nor the Church function as the Body of Christ.
 
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Right His sacrifice, the Olah, was offered to deal 1st with our sin nature, so that He can then deal with our sinful behavior. I am reading but also utilizing study guides and using charts like these...to help me. I am learning that sin is not just sin (unintentional vs intentional) and that we are all guilty regardless of our awareness.

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Ok, so far, and I see that the offerings needed to be livestock, not wild. That order, and consistency was very important, for the one sacrificing and for the priest. We also see that the hand of the guilty was to be placed on the head of the sacrifice, which makes sense to me.
 
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Ok, so far, and I see that the offerings needed to be livestock, not wild.
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Correct. Domestic livestock, but only those declared to be clean (since the flesh would be eaten by the priests and Levites).
Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat. (Lev 11:3)

The priests the Levites, and all the tribe of Levi, shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel: they shall eat the offerings of the LORD made by fire, and his inheritance. (Deut 18:1)

Therefore the sacrificial offerings were limited to unblemished (a) cattle, (b) sheep, and (c) goats (and clean birds).

BURNT OFFERING -- ...And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD...

PEACE OFFERING -- And if his oblation be a sacrifice of peace offering, if he offer it of the herd; whether it be a male or female, he shall offer it without blemish before the LORD.

SIN OFFERING -- ...then let him bring for his sin, which he hath sinned, a young bullock without blemish unto the LORD for a sin offering.

TRESSPASS OFFERING -- And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD for his sin which he hath sinned, a female from the flock, a lamb or a kid of the goats, for a sin offering. And if he be not able to bring a lamb, then he shall bring for his trespass, which he hath committed, two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, unto the LORD; one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering.

We also see that the hand of the guilty was to be placed on the head of the sacrifice, which makes sense to me.
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This shows the substitutionary nature of the sacrifice. That an innocent animal was giving its life and its blood for the sins of human sinners. This is also why Scripture says that Christ was made SIN for us (He who knew no sin). The sacrifice of Christ was a substitutionary sacrifice. Thus the theological term "vicarious".
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Correct. Domestic livestock, but only those declared to be clean (since the flesh would be eaten by the priests and Levites).
Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat. (Lev 11:3)

The priests the Levites, and all the tribe of Levi, shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel: they shall eat the offerings of the LORD made by fire, and his inheritance. (Deut 18:1)

Therefore the sacrificial offerings were limited to unblemished (a) cattle, (b) sheep, and (c) goats (and clean birds).

BURNT OFFERING -- ...And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD...

PEACE OFFERING -- And if his oblation be a sacrifice of peace offering, if he offer it of the herd; whether it be a male or female, he shall offer it without blemish before the LORD.

SIN OFFERING -- ...then let him bring for his sin, which he hath sinned, a young bullock without blemish unto the LORD for a sin offering.

TRESSPASS OFFERING -- And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD for his sin which he hath sinned, a female from the flock, a lamb or a kid of the goats, for a sin offering. And if he be not able to bring a lamb, then he shall bring for his trespass, which he hath committed, two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, unto the LORD; one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering.


This shows the substitutionary nature of the sacrifice. That an innocent animal was giving its life and its blood for the sins of human sinners. This is also why Scripture says that Christ was made SIN for us (He who knew no sin). The sacrifice of Christ was a substitutionary sacrifice. Thus the theological term "vicarious".
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First, I'm off to look at what that theory vicarious means. Well, context clues of what you just said points to substitutionary sacrifice. Why the female sacrifice for the common ppl? I see the pigeon sacrifice, (from another study outline of this book), was to show even the poor were not exempt from sacrifice.
 
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First, I'm off to look at what that theory vicarious means. Well, context clues of what you just said points to substitutionary sacrifice. Why the female sacrifice for the common ppl? I see the pigeon sacrifice, (from another study outline of this book), was to show even the poor were not exempt from sacrifice.
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Wow it has been along time, this shows the true love of god making sure everyone is taken care of, and that he is not a respector of persons.
 
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First, I'm off to look at what that theory vicarious means. Well, context clues of what you just said points to substitutionary sacrifice. Why the female sacrifice for the common ppl? I see the pigeon sacrifice, (from another study outline of this book), was to show even the poor were not exempt from sacrifice.
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Most likely the male is a representative of Jesus Christ the Son of man. The burnt offering is a picture of the complete sacrifice of God pouring out His Spirit essence on corrupted flesh. And it must of been a male in respect to the Son of man needed to represent the lamb of God who was slain from the foundation of the world when God was still working. .

I think you could say in respect the new creature the female represents the bride of Christ as that seen and man is used as Christ unseen as the power of Christ that we do have in these earthen bodies of death.

The female would therefore be a representative of mankind as a whole. She would represent outwardly the whole Church as the new creation. Man's greatest problem is his sin nature, so the female was used for the common man or mankind. The offering must be a female.

Much can be seen by looking at the new reformed order using the head/hair uncovering for the man and covering for the woman as two working together to represent the unseen glory as a picture of the wedding supper when the union will be consummated .
 
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And the priest shall put some of the blood on the horns of the altar of fragrant incense before the Lord that is in the tent of meeting, and all the rest of the blood of the bull he shall pour out at the base of the altar of burnt offering that is at the entrance of the tent of meeting. And all the fat of the bull of the sin offering he shall remove from it, the fat that covers the entrails and all the fat that is on the entrails and the two kidneys with the fat that is on them at the loins and the long lobe of the liver that he shall remove with the kidneys (just as these are taken from the ox of the sacrifice of the peace offerings); and the priest shall burn them on the altar of burnt offering. But the skin of the bull and all its flesh, with its head, its legs, its entrails, and its dung— all the rest of the bull—he shall carry outside the camp to a clean place, to the ash heap, and shall burn it up on a fire of wood. On the ash heap it shall be burned up.
Leviticus 4:7‭-‬12 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/lev.4.7-12.ESV

What does where the blood and sacrifices and offerings placed, like outside the tent or in a clean place, tell us? Also, what do we take away from the specific body parts and composition that is to be dealt with differently?
 
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Most likely the male is a representative of Jesus Christ the Son of man. The burnt offering is a picture of the complete sacrifice of God pouring out His Spirit essence on corrupted flesh. And it must of been a male in respect to the Son of man needed to represent the lamb of God who was slain from the foundation of the world when God was still working. .

I think you could say in respect the new creature the female represents the bride of Christ as that seen and man is used as Christ unseen as the power of Christ that we do have in these earthen bodies of death.

The female would therefore be a representative of mankind as a whole. She would represent outwardly the whole Church as the new creation. Man's greatest problem is his sin nature, so the female was used for the common man or mankind. The offering must be a female.

Much can be seen by looking at the new reformed order using the head/hair uncovering for the man and covering for the woman as two working together to represent the unseen glory as a picture of the wedding supper when the union will be consummated .
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I really like your perspective because it brings honor and purpose to both genders, bringing all Glory to Him. It makes sense. I don't know though, but it does seem to show union with the body of Christ, the bride, and with Christ. I thought it showed the level of responsibility, in that the female animal does not have the high regard as a male with out blemish, like Christ Himself, the lamb of God. The priest has more responsibility and thus more accountability, where the common ppl do not, but they still must sacrifice.
 
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And the priest shall put some of the blood on the horns of the altar of fragrant incense before the Lord that is in the tent of meeting, and all the rest of the blood of the bull he shall pour out at the base of the altar of burnt offering that is at the entrance of the tent of meeting. And all the fat of the bull of the sin offering he shall remove from it, the fat that covers the entrails and all the fat that is on the entrails and the two kidneys with the fat that is on them at the loins and the long lobe of the liver that he shall remove with the kidneys (just as these are taken from the ox of the sacrifice of the peace offerings); and the priest shall burn them on the altar of burnt offering. But the skin of the bull and all its flesh, with its head, its legs, its entrails, and its dung— all the rest of the bull—he shall carry outside the camp to a clean place, to the ash heap, and shall burn it up on a fire of wood. On the ash heap it shall be burned up.
Leviticus 4:7‭-‬12 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/lev.4.7-12.ESV

What does where the blood and sacrifices and offerings placed, like outside the tent or in a clean place, tell us? Also, what do we take away from the specific body parts and composition that is to be dealt with differently?
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You can determine by where the blood was applied to the altar how central atonement was in that sacrifice. For example, in the burnt offering the blood was poured out on the sides of the altar. The central theme of the burnt offering was not atonement but consecration yet, the application of blood to the altar shows that the idea of atonement is still present. On the day of atonement, the blood of the sin offering was applied to the horns of the altar which was the highest point on the altar. This tells us that atonement was paramount in this sacrifice. The higher the application of blood on the altar, the greater the emphasis of atonement.
 
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Interesting that the fat and blood are the components to be the offering. Fat being oil? And blood containing the essence of life.

I havent personally butchered an entire animal but I have visited an abattoir (in nz, called the freezing works) and seen animals being slaughtered its a very mechanised operation. The sad thing about it is the animals waiting to be slaughtered are rather traumatised, they know whats going to happen.
The one I visited slaughtered sheep, bulls and pigs. Its a different thing for chickens.
 
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I heard an old mountain preacher one time and he was preaching from Leviticus but he couldn't pronounce it right....he said turn with me to the book of LEVI....TUCK....US.....LOL
true story
 
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Maybe way off but here is some thoughts on the matter....

Things Leviticus is showing me...


Completely leaving eternal salvation off the table in this thought pondered, I think it important to keep in mind the balance found in Yeshua/Jesus.


Mercy trumps judgement doesn't say mercy makes judgement obsolete. My understanding is Yeshua came to bring balance with the judgement quality that He possesses and the Mercy that is also who He is. So we see that we are saved from condemnation because we are His because of His loving kindness and mercy; at the same time we also see that component of being His includes obeying Him because He is Holy. His justness includes mercy and Him mercy includes judgement.


We see that with Aaron's sons and with Ananias and Sapphira. He is Holy, worthied to be praised and obeyed. He will not be mocked or taken lightly. We should understand this fully as His Children. The fact that we grieve and quench the Holy Spirit shows that not only is He working within us, getting us where we need to be, but that obeying Him is key in being His transformed ppl.

I am just thinking outloud in my font.
 
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I recommend approaching Leviticus from a “relational” perspective.... ..meaning God is trying to have a loving relationship with us without killing us because of our sin.....He is HOLY.

We were unable to do it, God knew this before the foundation of the world .........

God provides the Lamb of God - Yeshua/Jesus....He fulfills all the law and requirements in Leviticus ..... now, through Him (Yeshua/Jesus), we are reconciled back to the Father in a loving relationship. :love:(y)

Every sacrifice is a type and shadow of how we are to interact with the Father in a loving relationship.
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The tabernacle instructions tell us how to be “holy” and committed and clean in our relationship with God. How to possess our “vessels” - our bodies that are the temple of the Holy Spirit. :love:(y)
 
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CharliRenee said:
Maybe way off but here is some thoughts on the matter....

Things Leviticus is showing me...


Completely leaving eternal salvation off the table in this thought pondered, I think it important to keep in mind the balance found in Yeshua/Jesus.


Mercy trumps judgement doesn't say mercy makes judgement obsolete. My understanding is Yeshua came to bring balance with the judgement quality that He possesses and the Mercy that is also who He is. So we see that we are saved from condemnation because we are His because of His loving kindness and mercy; at the same time we also see that component of being His includes obeying Him because He is Holy. His justness includes mercy and Him mercy includes judgement.


We see that with Aaron's sons and with Ananias and Sapphira. He is Holy, worthied to be praised and obeyed. He will not be mocked or taken lightly. We should understand this fully as His Children. The fact that we grieve and quench the Holy Spirit shows that not only is He working within us, getting us where we need to be, but that obeying Him is key in being His transformed ppl.

I am just thinking outloud in my font.
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Great insight, CharliRenee! You are a blessing and truly seeking the face, heart and mind of God. You shall not be disappointed but, you will find Him - the One your heart seeks! :love:(y)
 
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