Not By Works

Who is enthroning themselves?
Please point to any theological argument or verses that actually do this?
If you cannot you are just inventing conclusions. Why do you think this is
helpful? Does it build up your ego, or sense you are on a wave of truth
rather than just suspended in mid air.

So you are saying that now you are utterly sinless? Paul's assessment of himself was quite dissimilar......

Petey......again your view equals zero....any man, woman, religion that states the work, power and promises of Christ alone to save are not enough while saying what I DO KEEPS ME SAVED ENTHRONES SELF AND DETHRONES Christ.....now.....what are you back again.....3rd time a charm?

Let us get this kind of language into the hatred insanity some participate in because it is their
personality and without foundation.

This man does not know my theology, does not know me, but makes decisions based on a few
words. It is literally indefensable.

If one has a problem with Nazarene Church theology, the forums are a place to mention them.
To attack and slander someone as an unbeliever speaks only what is in the heart and the idea
to provoke and cause strife. And if one alies onself with such behaviour as this, then everything
else loses its meaning. It is just sinful behaviour and something one will have to answer for.

What I do not understand is the loyalties with strangers that are not proven or even true.
If one opposes one might be called legalism then the crowd roar yes, except the people are
legalists and the rabble rousers do not accept Jesus's words.

dcontroversal, you cannot even state what your theological position is.
Have you tried to write a belief statement of a church? You cannot even do it in 40 lines without assumptions.
You believe you can say something of this importance is one sentence and then condemn me.

It is so absurd, it just needs this simple dismisal. Did you ever go to theological college?
Any lecturer would give you a fail.

Let me do textual critism.
view ( undefined what being referred to ) equal zero ( a number meaning nothing) attempt to demean an individual,
but just conveys antagonism and lack of repect.

x of Christ => save while what you do keeps one saved, makes self on the throne, and dethrones Christ.
This is a summary of a theology, which is a version of easy believism.
Free grace theology

Faith alone, free choice, relationship differs from intimacy, justification differs from sanctification, eternal security, assurance of salvation, rewards and discipline

Repeating statments of theology as if it shows another believer does not know Jesus, is just a waste of time.
It would be easier to say you just follow Free grace theology.

I hope those who think they are in agreement with you now understand which camp you belong to.

They know.
They agree.

Yes UnderGrace it is worrisome. It does not matter what caused their ban what matters is they broke forum bylaws and they need to "abide" by forum rules. I believe we need an IT manager to figure out how to keep banned returnee's away permanently. And Moderator's actually have a name for what Illegals returnee's are doing its called, "Ban Evasion"

I found out that this is a common practice for banned user's to return and it has become a frustrating task for Moderators to deal with. These banned returnee's were banned for good reason and they need to go away again. Although their line of questioning may be tempting to answer it would be best to just leave them alone.

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"Then it just comes down to your own moderation abilities, using a bot (or spreadsheet) with notes capabilities and just remove people who break your rules. Discord may take action on an account for "ban evasion." (that is good news).

Well that is good then.
One could discuss the consequences of Nazarene theology when compared with free grace.
It might actually mean some people could change their positions. But I think this risk would
be like cutting off ones own arm for some, lol

It sounds good.... It's a free for all.
Is anyone here even aware of the fact that these are new ideas but that God has not changed?

I wonder how they'd explain that?
I've mentioned it but, of course, no reply.

The subplot is polarisation and creating this group ethos.
But we just need to share the gospel, scripture and stay true to Jesus.

Those who stand outside the gospel always will find a friendship agreement
because they probably lack one in the real world, with a real church.

Patience, love, truth always breaks through, because it is how we live each day.

"ban evasion" What is this? Is there a banning policy on this site?
I was looking for something that is written down, and could not find anything.

Have you spoken to a moderator to get these insights or is this just your own ideas?
I would be interested to know if there was a problem, how it could be resolved easily.

Would you like to ban some members yourself?
I get the feeling you might want to ban those who for whatever reason you do not like.
From our short interaction, you have made your feelings very obvious.

Hi cv5, neither myself or Grace101 are saying we are without the capability to sin, but we are cleansed
and purified in Christ.

I am interested do you follow the free grace theology school?

On forum rules, is there anything about disowning someones faith, their worship of Jesus, their following
evangelical theology, calling others cursed, threatening banning or intimidation and personal attacks,
devaluing someones intelligence, ability to quote scripture, is accused of lying, slandering, being decietful,
sly, without integrity, honesty, or going beyond letting ones yes be yes or no be no.

A respectful bebate normally means letting others express their position and then give ones view on that position
without devaluing the other contributor.

Once a culture of exchanging devaluing comments, like any playground it is hard to stop things descend south.
I would like to know what is worthy of reporting, and that boundaries are not just booting people off.

The itsy TWISTY spider...

...For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. THEY ARE GODLESS MEN, WHO CHANGE THE GRACE OF OF OUR GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY and DENY Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Jude 1:4

...They claim to know God, but by THEIR ACTIONS they DENY Him. They are detestable, DISOBEDIENT and UNFIT for doing anything good. Titus 1:16

Look who's talking about HONESTY.

...We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6

Do you not CALL EVIL GOOD and GOOD EVIL? (Isaiah 5:20-24)

Is it RIGHT to OBEY God? Is it GOOD or is it WRONG and EVIL? If it is RIGHT and GOOD, why do you call those who promote OBEDIENCE TO GOD as FALSE or peddlers of a FALSE GOSPEL?

Do you not insult and call the views of those who promote OBEDIENCE to God as IDIOTIC?

It's funny how your group can say that only genuine believers would OBEY God and those who promote OBEDIENCE to God are LOST, UNBELIEVERS, FALSE, DECEIVER, NOT SAVED TO BEGIN WITH and many other discriminating NEGATIVE remarks.

And when you are called out, you will accuse them of SLANDER and start bullying those who disagree with you.

But scriptures fortold of these kind of people and behaviour.

.. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. Jude 1:14-19

...If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. 1 Timothy 6:3-5

...Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. HE WHO DOES WHAT IS RIGHT IS RIGHTEOUS, just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.

IS IT RIGHT TO OBEY GOD or not?

Are you an instrument of God's righteousness or do you just BELIEVE and let God do everything for you?

Who now is the LORD, you?...and who is your servant, GOD?

....“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘IT IS FUTILE TO SERVE GOD. What did we gain by CARRYING OUT HIS REQUIREMENTS and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then THOSE WHO FEARED THE LORD talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I WILL SPARE THEM, just as in compassion a man spares HIS SON WHO SERVES HIM. And you will again see the DISTINCTION between the RIGHTEOUS and the WICKED, between those who SERVE GOD and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18

...God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him WE MIGHT BECOME THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. 2 Corinthians 5:21

just pulled this down to point out the " few words " from the 2nd paragraph.

the " few words " are approximately 35 posts in the last 7 and 1/2 hours alone.

" makes decision based on a few words."

No....
I would not risk narrowing my focus...

lol par for the course

What is your focus? Poking fun and mirroring ideas?