Did mis-treatment of woman begin with Adam?

They didnt even know they were naked until after they ate of the fruit.

Unless that beautiful naked woman is your wife.

Sounds like your saying she became a ho that didn't want to be alone in her sin?😀

Really? An English written word, is clear in definition? The definition is clear cut, black and white and impossible to define any other way?

All should see things exactly the same if that were true.

Here is a challenge, Let’s everyone on the forum, go out and get a GREY shirt. Let’s return and show our GREY shirts. Now almost everyone’s shirt will not be the same exact color. Why is that’s?
So the question remains, who actually has the color?
Who is correct? And does it or, should it matter that what another’s eyes see as how they interpret the color grey?

What you look at is not what matters but what you see is.

I believe that when part of Adam was taken from him and made into 2 beings, the prior truth he once knew was blurry.

To cont. What spastically self posted by defective technology....
Do I need to consult a dictionary or can I $ a clue as to how multiplied sorrow and things acursed for your SAKE aren't the same as a direct acursing.?

Heehee! You're always good for a chuckle, Simon.

Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created.

Colossians 1:16 For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him.

I'm not blaming God, silly man. I'm attributing everything to God. Nothing was made that wasn't made by Him. It does not matter what it appears to you or me or anyone else. In God's Spiritual realm, He gets glory for a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g that was created.

I'm focusing on what the text actually states. Until we agree on what it states, there is little point in trying to interpret it. The text does not state that God cursed the woman or the man. That has profound implications on how it is interpreted, as you will see in my response to another post.

I mean that God ordained it that way. Not that pain while giving birth or sweating while working is a good or fun thing, but thats just what God ordained.

With that being said, I already apologized publicly in general for my rude posts on another topic here, HOWEVER: I want to apologize to you PERSONALLY for my rude behavior, I can be stubborn and petty at times, its something I need to work on. I come from the mean streets and im only now getting used to civilian life, hence why I run off at the mouth at times. Its no excuse for poor behavior, but I thought i'd mention it. I APOLOGIZE. Im sorry Dino

What you look at is not what matters but what you see is.

Was he so annoyed, or angry, or whatever, with Eve, that it was he who set the pattern of unfair treatment of woman that has been the rule through the centuries?
Or was it the men of that era, in general, who believed that since Eve sinned first that woman needed to be dominated?

what reconciles or substantiates....
1. Cain firstborn being a murderer.
2. Cain not being in Adams descent.

3. Although non canonical the book of Enoch saying the 200 fallen defiled everything on earth.
4. Genesis 6:4 I do not agree are the Sons of Seth as some say.....and I believe enmity seed is exactly that....
5. The sons of Anak the Anaki reappear post flood and three other I think giant families and God....saying kill them all is obviously. ....

6.....Contaminated corrupted seed imo.....or as is said cainite.......
7. Christ's dialogue with Pharisees saying your father is a SNAKE! ?

8. Lastly an off topic ? Because I respect your logic what do you say to those that profess a doctrine that this is not the first earth age that time was reset so to speak and....how do we explain the giant monolithic stone structures without enmity seed giants and Supernatural Angels involvement.?

whaaaa?

Eve was deceived but God was pretty clear

'oh I'll just try it once' has led to many a downfall

God didn't command Eve to submit to Adam; .

Cain was born to fallen Adam and Eve (Gen 4:1). And Scripture says: "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" (Rom 5:12) So Cain and Abel were born with the indwelling sin nature inherited from Adam and Eve (as are all human beings). The tendency to sin was there to begin with from the minute they were born.

At the same time (although this is not explicitly stated) God had already taught Adam and Eve the necessity of a sinless substitute by providing them with coats of skins. They would also have been taught the importance of the shed blood of unblemished clean animals, and that of the whole burnt offering. So both Cain and Abel would have been aware of the sacrifices which would be acceptable to God.

However, Scripture tells us that Cain was an evil man: Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous (1 John 3:12)

"Who was of that wicked one" would mean that Satan (the Wicked One) had an extraordinary influence on Cain. On the other hand Abel was justified by grace through faith, hence deemed righteous. And because Cain murdered his brother and failed to repent, he became an outcast and was expunged from the line of Adam.

The book of Enoch agrees with Scripture in that evil angels (*the angels which kept not their first estate*) -- called *sons of God* -- cohabited with human women, produced Nephilim (giants), and also corrupted the human race. And they may have taught humans many extraordinary things (even advanced technology).

Since the Bible makes it quite clear that Cain was the child of Adam and Eve, the Serpent Seed doctrine does not have any basis in Scripture (that Cain was born from the union of Satan and Eve). However spiritually speaking men who choose to be wicked and evil are spiritual "children of the devil", since they display his character -- to deceive, to kill and to destroy, as well as maintain enmity with God and Christ (e.g. the Pharisees).

The theory of the Pre-Adamite Earth does not have any basis is Scripture either, and the Ten Commandments make it clear that the universe was created in six literal 24 hour day (Exod 20:11). But nobody can really explain how the monoliths and megaliths came into existence. Since angels have supernatural strength, the evil angels could have been involved before the Flood. Also those structures are found worldwide.

Question: Why do so many Christian men emphasize I Peter 1:3 about wives submitting to their husbands but don’t also include the very next few verses where the Word instructs godly women not to concern themselves about dressing up pretty, adorning themselves, fixing their hair to look attractive? If a man truly wanted a holy wife, he would not only want one who submits to him, but who submits to God by not fixing up her outward appearance. If you don’t want a wife that honors God in such a way, you just want a woman to knuckle under to you. Let's get real.

Also brothers, a few verses later in that same chapter you see it tells husbands to honor their wives. Is that important to you as well? If so, how come there are not oodles and oodles of posts in the threads by you men teaching the other men how they should love and honor their wives? On the other hand, there sure are oodles and oodles of posts about wives submitting to their husbands. Can someone please explain why this is so?

What about 1 Peter 3:1? Says just that. Wives submit to your husbands.

How can we disregard that in favor of modern culture without just saying honestly: we dont care what the Bible says, this is how we feel and think in the 21st century.

Lets ask @Angela53510 I love her and respect her opinion. TELL US what does it mean? Does it mean what it says?

bizarre interpretation

you must be joking

It only takes once and you pay or get rewarded the rest of your life!

Count my thumb as a laugh imoji I post from phone w/o downloaded app and the imoji selection bar rarely comes up......
Partial joke with inclusion of taught doctrine that knowledge fruit tree is edited G rated version of X reality.....
That serpent lead the way of Gen.6:4 in Gen. 2.....some pastors have taught it for decades.😀.....one in AR televises every week day at 0500 am and uses sattellite and ham radio to get out to 260 countries....and has website.