Flat Earthers

I think you've hit on my point about deceptions.

Are you saying NASA is more trustworthy?

I don't remember mentioning NASA one way or another. All I said was trusting information provided by any random shmo with internet access isn't exactly a solid source of evidence.

My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, every place in the world is given a latitude and longitude, in the lying system of latitude and longitude called the GPS; or Global Positioning System. That position is given it’s coordinates (latitude and longitude) because of how the exact same stars pass over them (latitude), and what time they pass over (longitude [in a sidereal day for the stars]). Solar noon for every place in the world, in the lying system of GPS, is the exact moment you can draw a perpendicular line through the course of the sun (through the actual middle of the sun); as it appears (it’s whole course line [from when it is first seen on the horizon, until it is last seen on the horizon], directly dividing it) in the sky above, to point to exactly where the geographical North Pole and geographical South Pole are from you.

The only problem with that, is that the sun rises and goes down above the world over the south; and then continues on through it’s chamber over the north (around 93 miles up while going over the north at the same speed and altitude [doing a perfect half circle while over the north]).

Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. Psalms 19:5

You already know how looking toward the claimed south works in the claimed Southern Hemisphere; and how the stars continue to make a counterclockwise rotation above the world, as they are seen to go around the far side of the claimed Southern Hemisphere circle of stars (and are not really there, but only projected to be by the firmament [and are really going over the other side of the world, directly behind the observer at that moment]). If the sun did do a perfect circle above the world at all times, then everyone would be pointing to the same center of the world; called the geographical North Pole today, when drawing a perpendicular line through it’s course at solar noon and pointing toward the center of the world. But since the sun rises and therefore extends it’s course out over the south (and goes down and closes in that extended course back into making a perfect circle [only over the north]), that causes the dividing line drawn through the course of the sun at solar noon, not to point toward the claimed geographical North Pole for everyone in the world (and it definitely doesn’t point toward a [claimed] geographical South Pole because that doesn’t exist).

That is the reason the United States is not as wide as Australia, claimed east to claimed west; but Australia only has three time zones, while the continental United States has four. For most of the people in the continental United States, when they point toward the claimed geographical North Pole, they are mostly pointing in the correct direction (except for the claimed eastern [continental] United States that points slightly to the right, and the claimed western [continental] United States that points even less slightly to the left). Because of where Australia is and how the sun begins to rise (and extend it’s course) as it passes around 2/3 of the way past Australia, all of Australia is looking much further to the left of the direction of the claimed geographical North Pole when they think they are looking directly at it (than the United States looks to the right of it on the claimed east coast and slightly to the left of it on the claimed west coast).

So realize my brothers and sisters, every place in the world that is given their latitude and longitude, in the lying system of GPS, is just that – a lying system of a way to navigate, in a lying representation of God’s world. The world is not round. It is flat. Every place in the world is given their lying latitude and longitude as if they were over a globe world. That is the reason that direct flights from Houston, TX to anywhere in Australia go over Mexico; when a flight from Houston, TX to anywhere in Australia should not fly over Mexico at all.

It is the reason that direct flights from Perth to Sydney, Australia take much less time to fly than direct flights from Portland, OR to Boston, MA. The engines just work a little harder while on the flight from Perth to Sydney, than they do from Portland to Boston. Everything, from all of the pilot’s cockpit instruments, to your Smartphone that you have looking at your speedometer, are all plugged into the lying system of GPS that is constantly calculating what direction you should fly (telling you that you are flying a straight line when you are not); and how fast you are flying (when you are not flying that speed at all – only what the calculated speed is depending on where your position is at that moment – a position based on a lying position on a sphere). It is all lies.

For the greater deception, in the direct flights from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia, and back, that could not possibly fly that fast to hide the deception, they fly to the claimed north of New Zealand, instead of to the claimed south of it on those flights. Looking at a video from Max Igan, you can see that on his direct flight from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia, around ¾ of the way through his flight, while the onboard passenger monitor was showing that the plane was flying in a northwest direction, his personal magnetic compass was showing that the plane was flying in a west southwest direction. This proves that the plane was flying to the claimed north of New Zealand, instead of to the claimed south of it (where it should be flying if we were on a globe).

AntieAnt,

I am telling you that this world is flat and stretched out, just like it says in the bible. In my book I give detailed information on how to get to the edge, and see where the heavens come down to rest; the easiest way, which is to go to the center of an edge. That is where the great circle of the earth comes closest to.

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22

And remember, earth means dry land.

And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:10

Tides are caused by the heating of the water by the sun. As the sun rises, it begins to heat the water, raising it’s temperature. As the temperature rises, the water expands, causing a high tide. As the sun goes down, the water begins to cool; and cause a low tide. That for the most part is what causes tides. Then you also have the winds, just as a hurricane will blow and push the water up onto the coastal city, they also effect the level of the tide for that day. The winds are what cause the currents of the world.

The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. Ecclesiastes 1:6

Then you also have the runoff, from previous weather, that goes into the sea; effecting the tide.

All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. Ecclesiastes 1:7

And KnowMe, I am telling you the truth about the lying GPS system. I said that the lying latitudes and longitudes given come from how the same stars pass over the same place; and at what time they pass over in a sidereal day. That is true. They are lying, because the stars, along with the sun, also rise and extend their courses over the south. So that means that if someone were to get in a plane and fly from the Tropic of Cancer, just south of Jerusalem, north to the claimed geographical North Pole, and then did the same thing from the Tropic of Cancer, just north of Arizona (what is called just south of Arizona today) south (what is called north today), they should be equal flights. But you are actually flying longer of a distance from just south of Jerusalem. You will not see this if you navigate plugged into the lying system of GPS, because the plane’s engines will adjust; and you will actually be flying faster from just south of Jerusalem, than you are from just north of Arizona; giving you the same time, and therefore the same distances for both trips (distance = speed × time [believing you are flying the same speed on both trips, but you are not]). But if you only flew by looking at your rpms (rotations per minute of the plane engines), with the same fuel and cargo load at the start of both trips, and a magnetic compass, and kept the same rpms for the duration of both trips (called dead reckoning), weather and emergency situation permitting (and obviously both at the same altitude), you will see that the trip from just south of Jerusalem is longer. Doing them both on a clear night would be ideal because you could just fly toward Polaris.

I am not here to debate whether the Earth is flat or round. There is a documentary on Netflix right now about flat earth, focusing primarily on the followers of this movement. I have never seen such s flock of sheep in need of a shepherd. The harvest is ripe indeed. These people are desperate to belong to something greater than themselves and are prepared to part from loved ones, and logic to sustain their delusions.[/QUOTE

There's a saying, "If you major in the minors, you'll miss out on something major."
Wait! I think I just made that up!

There was another thread on this subject in recent years. In that thread, I provided a photo of the Sydney Opera House (about 33 degrees South) with sun shadows from Southeast to Northwest. As the sun is never further South than 23 degrees, the only way to explain these photographs is a roughly spherical planet on a tilt. This situation is impossible on a flat earth.

Of course, the response from the flatliners will be that some of the evidence is faked and/or some of the information is faulty. Save it. Go to Australia (or any location more than 25 degrees South) at any time between November and February. Get up early, or stay up late, and see for yourself.

My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, the sun physically rises in the east, and goes down in the west. That means that it physically rises, goes up, while it is passing over the east; and then goes down, while it is passing over the west. The east is a physical location. The west is a physical location. And it is written as far as the east is from the west.

And on the east side toward the rising of the sun shall they of the standard of the camp of Judah pitch throughout their armies: and Nahshon the son of Amminadab shall be captain of the children of Judah. Numbers 2:3

The two tribes and the half tribe have received their inheritance on this side Jordan near Jericho eastward, toward the sunrising. Numbers 34:15

From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast. Joshua 1:4

And turned from Sarid eastward toward the sunrising unto the border of Chisloth-tabor, and then goeth out to Daberath, and goeth up to Japhia, Joshua 19:12

That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. Isaiah 45:6

So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19

As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Psalms 103:12

You know in your heart that means distance away from each other. But over a lying globe, in Wrangel Island, Russia, you can physically be standing on the east and the west; where they come together on the Longitude 180° line! That is not the truth. You know that is not the word of our Lord. It is a lying GPS system that is placed over our world, as if we are on a globe; and the way that the firmament presents the sun, moon, and stars in the skies, always bringing their view up from the horizon, from where they really are – which is a long way away (unless they are directly over you) – that is why it appears that we are on a globe.

My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, do not be ignorant of what is happening in the world. The Jews believe that to reinstate the Temple service, the priests performing the services can only be purified from sin with the ashes of a red heifer; according to Numbers 19 in the bible. On August 28, 2018, it was reported that an unblemished red heifer was born in Israel. That red heifer was later reported to have died; with two more candidates to be checked in the second week of January 2019 (breakingisraelnews, “5 Biblical Prophecies Fulfilled in 2018 and 5 Expected in 2019”, by Eliana Rudee, January 2, 2019). It was reported that they have two new candidates in a secret location; and after two years they will be checked to see if they are eligible to be slaughtered (breakingisraelnews, “TWO NEW RED HEIFER CANDIDATES”, by Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz, March 6, 2019).

The altar of the second temple was in use before the foundation of the second temple was laid.

From the first day of the seventh month began they to offer burnt offerings unto the LORD. But the foundation of the temple of the LORD was not yet laid. Ezra 3:6

The altar of the third temple has already been dedicated on December 10, 2018.

In the same way that the sun, moon, and the stars are magnified, that is how Jesus is going to be magnified for the whole world to see him at his return. The word says that all flesh will see him.

And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. Isaiah 40:5

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zechariah 12:10

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:30

When Jesus returns, he will bend the firmament down for the whole world to see him at the same time. Then the firmament will tear up like a scroll and he will descend. Glory to God.

For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. Isaiah 60:2

He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet. 2 Samuel 22:10

He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet. Psalms 18:9

The earth shook, the heavens also dropped at the presence of God: even Sinai itself was moved at the presence of God, the God of Israel. Psalms 68:8

Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down: touch the mountains, and they shall smoke. Psalms 144:5

Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. Isaiah 45:8

Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence, Isaiah 64:1

And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory. Ezekiel 43:2

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matthew 24:27

For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. Luke 17:24

And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. Revelation 6:14

And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. John 1:51

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. Psalms 2:6

Glory to God.

hahahahahahahahhaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



and yes, the harvest is ripe, but the workers are few.