End time signs in Amillennialism?

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"“Be careful, or your (believers) hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

"For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened."
I would think that time began, as the time or reformation ….the veil was rent.. A great tribulation, loosing the outward identity as a nation to represent a unseen God. Unmatched from the beginning of the world until the time of reformation , and never to be see another nation lose its identity again. Only one demonstration. the same tribulation which is seen at the wailing wall in Jerusalem .

Hoping Christ will come in the flesh of a Jew. Denying both the father and the Son, a terrible unmatched tribulation.
 

tanakh

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Believers are building a kingdom here and now. Every person who turns to Christ for salvation is part of that expanding kingdom. Jesus planted the seed of his kingdom at his first coming. He will reign until everything is under his feet. The pessimistic view held by many
is not held by most. In the past believers prepared for the future generations to come. That's one reason here in the UK we have Cathedrals that were built to last for centuries. Now some build places that wont last for decades because they don't expect to be around to see those generations
 
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Looks like the Amil view fits. He will come as a thief in the night on the last day. We are the last days. They began at the time of reformation. The veil is rent. The spirit of the antichrists has been reveled no signs to fulfill as wonders could be tomorrow .

Thousand, as a metaphor used in parables represents a unknown defined as .. the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after these things.
Sorry. I intended to reposted DC in "not of works" to show him how insulting he is and accidentally posted it here.
 

Ahwatukee

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I could ask you the same question, as to how you don't know about these things? The fruit that I am producing, is the same information that the word of God teaches! The majority of the book of Revelation is given to God's coming wrath, which will be carried out via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, as well as the plagues that the two witnesses will bring about. The sky is in deed about to fall and anyone who has not received Christ prior to the day of the Lord, or those who have gone back to living according to the sinful nature, will be caught in it like a trap! This time of wrath is referred to by Jesus in following manner, which supports my post:

"“Be careful, or your (believers) hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

"For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened."



Believers are not building a kingdom in this world. We are preaching the gospel and being an example and a restraining force. Jesus will establish His kingdom when He returns to the earth to end the age. But prior to that, the restrainer/Holy Spirit, will continue to restrain the full force of sin and the man of sin, until He (and the church with Him) will be taken out of the way and then that man of lawlessness will be revealed.



I'm not talking about true believers worrying about the future, but to know what the word of God has to say about it. The book of Revelation from chapter 4 on-ward is a book of the future and we are to warn unbelievers about God's coming wrath, which they can escape through by believing in Christ. You are obviously one who has not studied end-time events and so you really can't comment on it. In opposition, God drew me to the study of end-time events from the very beginning of my journey in Christ. And regarding the book of Revelation and the future, we read the following:

"Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near."

Therefore, how can we teach the book of Revelation unless we study it and all related end-time scriptures?



The gathering of the church is not a fairy tail, but a promise from the Lord, also called "the blessed hope."

In John 14:1-3, the Lord said that He was going to the Father's house to prepare places for all who believed in Him and that He was going to come back and take us back to those places that He prepared for us. This is no fairytale in that, if you read the scripture in its plain, literal meaning, then the Lord meant what He said. How can you call the following a fairytale:

"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words."

* The Lord Himself will come down from heaven

* The dead in Christ will rise first (resurrection)

* Those who are sill alive in Christ will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet to the Lord in the air

* Then the Lord will take the entire church back to the Father's house to those places that He prepared for us

Regardless of where anyone stands regarding the timing of the event above, because it is written, it must take place. Yet, you and others call it a fairytale.



I have not named you as an idiot, but as ignorant, as well as with everyone else who resist the truth. It seems that it is always those who don't study end-time events are the one's resisting and denying it. Why is it always the same with those who think like you, that you can only do one or the other? Can we not preach the gospel and proclaim the whole word of God? Why are we only to do one thing and ignore the rest of God's word? For I also testify about Jesus, as well as teach about all the other Biblical topics.

By the way, evil is not winning. However, the beast will be given power to make war and to conquer the great tribulation saints during the last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period. And the Lord will return to the earth to end the age and will have the beast and the false prophet captured and thrown into the lake of fire. Immediately after that, a mighty angel will seize Satan and cast him into the Abyss and lock it over him so that he cannot deceive the nations during the Lord's millennial kingdom.

The future with your kids is not on this earth. This earth is passing away. But before it does, the church must be removed, then God's wrath must take place and then the Lord will return to the earth to end the age and establish His millennial kingdom. Yours and your kids hope should not for this world, but in the appearing of Christ, our blessed hope.

"Do not treat prophecies with contempt."
Your response says it all! This is why you don't understand.