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genetive indicates a relationship 'of or from' doesn't it?
i don't know Greek.
KJV and the majority of other English versions have 'faith in God' here
Douay-Rheims, GNV and YLT have 'of God'
BSB has 'from God'
i don't think it makes sense to consider that God has faith - not in the sense that we talk about this word. if faith is the evidence of unseen things, and God sees all things.. nothing is unseen to Him. He is forever faithful - meaning He is trustworthy and true - but does He live by belief? Belief in what? Himself?
This whole conversation is weird to me, like we're counting angels on the head of a pin.
i don't know Greek.
KJV and the majority of other English versions have 'faith in God' here
Douay-Rheims, GNV and YLT have 'of God'
BSB has 'from God'
i don't think it makes sense to consider that God has faith - not in the sense that we talk about this word. if faith is the evidence of unseen things, and God sees all things.. nothing is unseen to Him. He is forever faithful - meaning He is trustworthy and true - but does He live by belief? Belief in what? Himself?
This whole conversation is weird to me, like we're counting angels on the head of a pin.
King James Bible
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
faith comes from spirit of faith - no spirit of faith no faith
obviously the spirit of Christ has spirit of faith
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
faith comes from spirit of faith - no spirit of faith no faith
obviously the spirit of Christ has spirit of faith
Galatians 2:16 literally has "faith from Christ" in the Greek.
The KJV has "faith of Christ", some modern versions have "faith in Christ", and some have "the faithfulness of Christ".
We know that the last translation is incorrect, since the rest of the New Testament teaches that we are justified by grace through faith IN CHRIST AND HIS FINISHED WORK OF REDEMPTION.
So it is the sinners faith in Christ, not the faith of Christ in Himself (since He Himself is God).
The KJV has "faith of Christ", some modern versions have "faith in Christ", and some have "the faithfulness of Christ".
We know that the last translation is incorrect, since the rest of the New Testament teaches that we are justified by grace through faith IN CHRIST AND HIS FINISHED WORK OF REDEMPTION.
So it is the sinners faith in Christ, not the faith of Christ in Himself (since He Himself is God).
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if cannot discern fleshly one why Jesus said to Nicodemus about spiritual ?
and in the proverbs used to explain spiritual to non spiritual ?
just here's needed the language of spiritual things to understand beforehand
spiritual spiritually understands - without explanation - that is not about natural but spiritual ones
to the fleshly ones - in proverbs with explanation - to ones who believes
to the non believers it is not possible to explain
it is three sort of people -
natural - without faith - man of soul - did not denied the soul of his
fleshly - with faith but living according flesh
spiritual - with faith and love living according to the spirit
and in the proverbs used to explain spiritual to non spiritual ?
just here's needed the language of spiritual things to understand beforehand
spiritual spiritually understands - without explanation - that is not about natural but spiritual ones
to the fleshly ones - in proverbs with explanation - to ones who believes
to the non believers it is not possible to explain
it is three sort of people -
natural - without faith - man of soul - did not denied the soul of his
fleshly - with faith but living according flesh
spiritual - with faith and love living according to the spirit
in English, genitive case can be 'of' or 'from' or 'for' and it's distinguished from possessive, tho it can sometimes be both - for example if i say these are 'my things' it's possessive; they belong to me. but it's genitive, because i may not ultimately have ownership of the things but the phrase expresses that the things are associated with me.
a common example i found is 'the artist's paintings' - which isn't possessive, i.e. it isn't that the paintings belong to the artist, even tho they may belong to him. it's that they were made by him; they are from the artist.
another example given is 'the men's clothing section' -- the section of clothing designed and designated for men.
a common example i found is 'the artist's paintings' - which isn't possessive, i.e. it isn't that the paintings belong to the artist, even tho they may belong to him. it's that they were made by him; they are from the artist.
another example given is 'the men's clothing section' -- the section of clothing designed and designated for men.
not at all
first has to suffer on the cross much more then Jesus by time
and to have broken legs
are you ready for this ?
salvation on the cross ?
it is exceptional salvation - out of norm
apostle Paul was preaching standard way of salvation - the rebirth of spiritual baptism
one has to find what is salvation within norms of God - what God proposed to everybody not exceptional things
first has to suffer on the cross much more then Jesus by time
and to have broken legs
are you ready for this ?
salvation on the cross ?
it is exceptional salvation - out of norm
apostle Paul was preaching standard way of salvation - the rebirth of spiritual baptism
one has to find what is salvation within norms of God - what God proposed to everybody not exceptional things