We are part Neanderthal.

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JaumeJ

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So, are you saying that The Holy Spirit gives sorcerers His power to use to oppose Himself?

Are you out of your tree?
It is certaqin the Pharoah's magicians had no power from or Father………...take it from there if you are willing...
 

jb

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I asked: "So, who's power were the sorcerers using to change rods into snakes?"

You replied: "When one believes the Word, Jesus, Yeshua, it is obvious."

So, you seem to be saying here that it was Jesus who changed the sorcerers rods into snakes!

If not, what did you mean?

And there's no need to be rude, I am certainly "not out off my tree," simply logically following on from your reply!
 

JaumeJ

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I asked: "So, who's power were the sorcerers using to change rods into snakes?"

You replied: "When one believes the Word, Jesus, Yeshua, it is obvious."

So, you seem to be saying here that it was Jesus who changed the sorcerers rods into snakes!

If not, what did you mean?

And there's no need to be rude, I am certainly "not out off my tree," simply logically following on from your reply!

You are so obvious it is pathetic…….
 

oyster67

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God is the ultimate source of all things, power included. Nothing is done without God allowing it.

Job 1
1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
1:11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath [is] in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
 
Feb 28, 2016
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Jaume is talking about Godly discernment here...???
and,
if you don't know who is The Ultimate POWER
then,
why ask???
 

tanakh

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My Left Toe looks suspicious. I wonder whether this proves I am part Neanderthal. I reckon we should check out all our parts
and also see whether the name Frankenstein appears swinging in our family tree
 
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Miri

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Exodus 7v11,12 states: "But Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers; so the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. For every man threw down his rod, and they became serpents."

So, who's power were the sorcerers using to change rods into snakes?
By whose power do you think mediums talk to the dead, raise up orbs,
speak to ghosts etc.


The other thing is that the bible refers to them as sorcerers and magicians.
Plenty of those are still around today, just turn on the TV.

The main point the chapter is that God defeated the magicians, God has power
rule and authority, not magicians and conjurers by their deception.

The magicians were deceptive manipulative, they manipulated Pharoah.
God is no man’s master, He is under no ones authority, at His name every knee
will bow.
 
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Miri

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My Left Toe looks suspicious. I wonder whether this proves I am part Neanderthal. I reckon we should check out all our parts
and also see whether the name Frankenstein appears swinging in our family tree

Oh you so reminded me of something.

My manager’s brother has an extra toe on his foot, he has 6 toes.
He has the nick name of ET - extra toe!