Why Christians get a bad rap amongst the Jews...(an example)

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iamsoandso

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About five and a half years later on September 1,1939 Germany invaded Poland then on September 17,1939 France and Britain declared war on Germany and Soviet troops invaded Poland from the east..
 
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kaylagrl

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And because the victor holds the convenience of publishing our history books many do not know that the Jews frst declared war on Germany and not the other way around...



No sorry this is false. We have Jewish people here that can debunk this I'm sure.
 

Nehemiah6

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many Christians need to be reminded it was the roman empire that put Jesus to death. Crucifixion is not a Jewish execution.
Maybe so, but God did not hold Rome accountable. Instead He held the unbelieving Jews accountable (even though the crucifixion was a part of God's plan of salvation).

Had the Jewish religious leaders not pestered Pilate and hounded him to crucify Christ, Pilate would have gladly released Him. So Pilate was under duress as the Gospel accounts clearly show.

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:...Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 2:23,36)

Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: (Acts 7:51,52).

Now even though God held the Jews accountable for the crucifixion, He did not give Gentiles Christians a license to persecute and hate Jews. Indeed God warned the Gentiles not to be high-minded because they had been grafted into the Church in place of unbelieving Jews.

In spite of that, hatred for Jews became a fact of life wherever they settled. Today it is bitter hatred or animosity by (1) the Palestinians and Iran, (2) the entire Muslim world, (3) all the globalist elites, including the EU and the UN, and (4) many Christians who believe that the Church has replaced Israel (as originated in the Catholic church and adopted by Protestant denominations). And while Barack Obama was president, anti-Semitism and anti-Israel were official US policy, while giving aid and comfort to Iran and ISIS.

As I already mentioned, the other side of the coin is a very small and extremely wealthy cabal of Jewish billionaires and multi-billionaires who are controlled by Satan, and who are dedicated to destroying peace and liberty at every opportunity and in every country, while promoting hatred and social unrest. George Soros is a good example, and one who should have been behind bars along with Obama and Hillary Clinton.
 

iamsoandso

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Von Naarden but few might notice this....
 

iamsoandso

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Maybe so, but God did not hold Rome accountable. Instead He held the unbelieving Jews accountable (even though the crucifixion was a part of God's plan of salvation).

Had the Jewish religious leaders not pestered Pilate and hounded him to crucify Christ, Pilate would have gladly released Him. So Pilate was under duress as the Gospel accounts clearly show.

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:...Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 2:23,36)

Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: (Acts 7:51,52).

Now even though God held the Jews accountable for the crucifixion, He did not give Gentiles Christians a license to persecute and hate Jews. Indeed God warned the Gentiles not to be high-minded because they had been grafted into the Church in place of unbelieving Jews.

In spite of that, hatred for Jews became a fact of life wherever they settled. Today it is bitter hatred or animosity by (1) the Palestinians and Iran, (2) the entire Muslim world, (3) all the globalist elites, including the EU and the UN, and (4) many Christians who believe that the Church has replaced Israel (as originated in the Catholic church and adopted by Protestant denominations). And while Barack Obama was president, anti-Semitism and anti-Israel were official US policy, while giving aid and comfort to Iran and ISIS.

As I already mentioned, the other side of the coin is a very small and extremely wealthy cabal of Jewish billionaires and multi-billionaires who are controlled by Satan, and who are dedicated to destroying peace and liberty at every opportunity and in every country, while promoting hatred and social unrest. George Soros is a good example, and one who should have been behind bars along with Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Which is correct in that there are Zionist Jews and Orthodox Jews and their differences in thinking as to a Jewish state. Then again there are Hebrew peoples who are Christian and who are completely forgotten in this....
 

iamsoandso

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first things first,lol Christians amongst the Jews is about as ambiguous as saying all the Christians believe just like David Koresh... lol,,,a whole bunch of different beliefs in Christianity right?
 

PennEd

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And because the victor holds the convenience of publishing our history books many do not know that the Jews frst declared war on Germany and not the other way around...


What the hell is this garbage!?

Are you trying to equate boycotting goods to exterminating every man woman and child?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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And because the victor holds the convenience of publishing our history books many do not know that the Jews frst declared war on Germany and not the other way around...


To say that the Jews started the conflict is an untrue and unfair statement. In January of 1933 Hitler, under some very questionable circumstances was appointed chancellor. Once in power, Hitler moved quickly to end German democracy. He convinced his cabinet to invoke emergency clauses of the constitution that permitted the suspension of individual freedoms of press, speech, and assembly. Special security forces — the Gestapo, the Storm Troopers (SA), and the SS — murdered or arrested leaders of opposition political parties (Communists, socialists, and liberals). The Enabling Act of March 23, 1933 — forced through the Reichstag already purged of many political opponents –gave dictatorial powers to Hitler.
It seems there was ample reason to try and organize the boycott, as it was put by the Jewish community leaders of the time. Boycott is a reasonable substitute for war.
 

iamsoandso

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What the hell is this garbage!?

Are you trying to equate boycotting goods to exterminating every man woman and child?

Ok then look at the words "exterminating every man woman and child" which in fact is what we were
all told in our history books in school. That is 6-9 million Jews were killed by the Nazi's so lets add the things up and see.

In 1933 there are 565,000 Jews in Germany, 3 mill. in Poland, 225,000 in France ect.ect. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...-of-europe-in-1933-population-data-by-country In the newspaper article you quoted it states 600,000 lived in Germany in 1933 here is the text of the newspaper in your quote or you can search for it and read it with a magnifying glass if you like https://www.h-ref.de/feindbilder/juedische-kriegserklaerungen/daily-express-abend.php but if there isn't six to nine million Jews that lived there how did he kill that many?
 

iamsoandso

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To say that the Jews started the conflict is an untrue and unfair statement. In January of 1933 Hitler, under some very questionable circumstances was appointed chancellor. Once in power, Hitler moved quickly to end German democracy. He convinced his cabinet to invoke emergency clauses of the constitution that permitted the suspension of individual freedoms of press, speech, and assembly. Special security forces — the Gestapo, the Storm Troopers (SA), and the SS — murdered or arrested leaders of opposition political parties (Communists, socialists, and liberals). The Enabling Act of March 23, 1933 — forced through the Reichstag already purged of many political opponents –gave dictatorial powers to Hitler.
It seems there was ample reason to try and organize the boycott, as it was put by the Jewish community leaders of the time. Boycott is a reasonable substitute for war.

In post #141 the Jewish archive is who provided the letters and which is why I said to "(notice the dates)",,,that is the Jews are who are showing Hitler and the Field Marshall agreeing the treatment is unfair and that they saw it should be looked into.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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In post #141 the Jewish archive is who provided the letters and which is why I said to "(notice the dates)",,,that is the Jews are who are showing Hitler and the Field Marshall agreeing the treatment is unfair and that they saw it should be looked into.
You are ignoring the actions of the Hitler regime, the things that the Nazi's did from the very beginning were worthy of protest. His campaign was grounds for protest not just by Jews, but any person that values freedom and democracy.
Come on really, he had his political opposition killed, and began steps to set him up as a dictator from the day of his appointment. Anyone would be right in opposing him.
 

iamsoandso

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You are ignoring the actions of the Hitler regime, the things that the Nazi's did from the very beginning were worthy of protest. His campaign was grounds for protest not just by Jews, but any person that values freedom and democracy.
Come on really, he had his political opposition killed, and began steps to set him up as a dictator from the day of his appointment. Anyone would be right in opposing him.

I don't own the news paper company who published the article in Britain nor did I write it. I did not put the letters on the www from post#141 the Jewish archives did. And I did not take the census in Europe in 1933 and state how many Jews lived in each nation.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Seems like a double standard to me.

There are two groups presently on this earth according to the word of God, Saved and Not Saved and there is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ.
The irony is that an ideology created by a self-loathing Jew has been responsible for far, far more deaths than Nazism.
Saved, Your correct

nationalities, Your wrong


Even paul seperated jewish christians from gentile christians when speaking about Israel as a nation.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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My understanding from listening to various pastors out there is that Jewish suffering is special/different because they were God's elect and all their suffering far exceeds the suffering of others even though more people died in Russia, many of whom were Christians through starvation and death marches, if we are comparing human suffering that is.
Wow you really heard this? From who?? There are some weird people out there!!