Can mathematics be used to prove God?

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soberxp

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2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


365 days a year,
The mathematical expression of a day in a year that is 365^(-1)
This is how mobile calculators are displayed.
or 1/365,
I'm just guessing how to express this.one day is with the Lord as a thousand years {in math}
so let me just guess if it is
1:
365^(-1) to the power of 1000
or
1/365 to the power of 1000

365^(-1)^1,000=365
The result was exciting.
whether my formula is wrong or not, the results are amazing,
I mean.
Even in the same form of year, the result is still related to the year, that is the unit of a day in a year and a thousand years,
they are all meaning the 365 days a year.
But I think this formula may be wrong, so I try to express it this way. {365^(-1)}^1,000=?
however the {365^(-1)}^1,000= 0
Could be the result of a cell phone calculator error.
I may not be able to use a cell phone calculator.
for the 365^(-1)^1,000=365 ,
I didn't know the calculator was the process of calculating first.
For example,
4^(-1)x2x2x2^2=4
{4^(-1)x2x2x2}^2=4
The results of these two calculations are the same.But this is a special case.
4^(-1)^2=4
{4^(-1)}^2=0.0625

5^(-1)^5=0.2 or (1/5)^5=0.00032 or 1/5=0.2

cuz
(-1)^1=-1
(-1)^5=-1

if 365^(-1)^1,000
first Calculated (-1)^1000=-1
then 365^(-1)=0.0027397260273973

I don't know why this is happening.

So I can only think that mathematics can be used to prove the existence of God
there is no other possibility, because God has prepared such a calculation for me.

Then look at the
God created the world in six days
365^(-1)x6^1000=∞ Infinite number
{365^(-1)x6}^1000=0
let me guess what is the meaning about it.
Infinite
we know god is Eternal god
Eternal
can be mean Infinite
Eternal life
Infinite life


for the {365^(-1)}^1,000= 0 and {365^(-1)x6}^1000=0
Zero and spirit have the same pronunciation in Chinese

It's unlikely to be a miscalculation,
or simply a phonetic coincidence,
because it's not a coincidence
if so many coincidences happen to be related to God at the time of so many coincidence contracts.
 

soberxp

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fixx, saved by zero
a thousand years as one day
1000x365=365,000
365,000x6=2,190,000

Homophonic

two = love
one = want
nine = save
000 = satan
That's how we use numbers in chinese.

love wants save Soul/sprite

I don't know what Satan means here. maybe God even wants to save Satan.
 
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KnowMe

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a thousand years as one day
1000x365=365,000
365,000x6=2,190,000

Homophonic
two = love
one = want
nine = save
000 = satan
That's how we use numbers in chinese.

love wants save Soul/sprite

I don't know what Satan means here. maybe God even wants to save Satan.
If a thousand years is like a day, then I assume a million years is like a minute.
 

soberxp

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If a thousand years is like a day, then I assume a billion years is like a minute.
Of course, it can be understood that in God's view, time is infinite, a day as a thousand years, a day in a thousand years as a thousand years, so this assumption is valid.
that's why i use the 1/365 to the power of 1000
 
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KnowMe

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It takes about 240 million years for Sol to make one rotation.
 

soberxp

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If a thousand years is like a day, then I assume a million years is like a minute.
also ,
So the Bible says the kingdom of heaven is near, if a billion years is like a minute
 

soberxp

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It takes about 240 million years for Sol to make one rotation.
if a billion years is like a minute, 240 million years Can be thought to be only six days, in God's opinion, even 24000 million years,
Any time can be regarded as six days. in God's opinion
 
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KnowMe

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if a billion years is like a minute, 240 million years Can be thought to be only six days, in God's opinion, even 24000 million years,
Any time can be regarded as six days. in God's opinion
Yes like the Caesium atom that is used so we can communicate over the internet. without that measurement communication over copper wires or WiFi would not happen
 

soberxp

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Yes like the Caesium atom that is used so we can communicate over the internet. without that measurement communication over copper wires or WiFi would not happen
It can be understood that this is a bit like relativity, and the network we use is like a wormhole, from one time to another, which would have taken more time to communicate. Like through a wormhole. You can quickly reach another timeline, which takes less time than before, but the process of relativity says that beyond the speed of light you feel that time is slowing down.
 
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KnowMe

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if a billion years is like a minute, 240 million years Can be thought to be only six days, in God's opinion, even 24000 million years,
Any time can be regarded as six days. in God's opinion
Even one breath is that a day long one event or.
 

posthuman

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however the {365^(-1)}^1,000= 0
Could be the result of a cell phone calculator error.
what you calculated was this:

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which works out to about 0.00000 ... 00005
((imagine there are 2,563 zeroes after the decimal))

the answer is not zero; it's just too small for your phone's calculator to figure out. you'd need to use something with i think a 32 bit logic? computers don't do '
math' exactly; there are 'smallest' and 'largest' numbers they can process - no matter what computer you use - because of some intricacies having to do with how they encode numbers.

the answer is '
approximately' zero, but not zero. just a very small number -- but 'small' is a relative term ;)
 
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KnowMe

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It can be understood that this is a bit like relativity, and the network we use is like a wormhole, from one time to another, which would have taken more time to communicate. Like through a wormhole. You can quickly reach another timeline, which takes less time than before, but the process of relativity says that beyond the speed of light you feel that time is slowing down.
Is that like placing thoughts in this thread, is that a type of wormhole for our brains are not connected physically to the internet, yet I can express my thoughts.
 

posthuman

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a thousand years as one day
1000x365=365,000
365,000x6=2,190,000

Homophonic
two = love
one = want
nine = save
000 = satan
That's how we use numbers in chinese.

love wants save Soul/sprite

I don't know what Satan means here. maybe God even wants to save Satan.
He does not want the wicked to be destroyed - He wants us to turn to Him, away from evil, so that we may live :)

He wants to save us -- even as terrible as we are
 
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KnowMe

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what you calculated was this:

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which works out to about 0.00000 ... 00005
((imagine there are 2,563 zeroes after the decimal))


the answer is not zero; it's just too small for your phone's calculator to figure out. you'd need to use something with i think a 32 bit logic? computers don't do 'math' exactly; there are 'smallest' and 'largest' numbers they can process - no matter what computer you use - because of some intricacies having to do with how they encode numbers.

the answer is 'approximately' zero, but not zero. just a very small number -- but 'small' is a relative term ;)
But what about the 0/1 computer language.
 

maxwel

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Homophonic
two = love
one = want
nine = save
000 = satan
That's how we use numbers in chinese.

"That's how we use numbers in chinese."


Maybe that's why God didn't write the bible in Chinese.

.
 

posthuman

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Is that like placing thoughts in this thread, is that a type of wormhole for our brains are not connected physically to the internet, yet I can express my thoughts.
thought

'math' is not a physical property. it cannot be measured, felt, touched, seen. it is like thought.

the very existence of math proves that there is something beyond the physical universe - something that exists even if all creation does not. we apply math to things -- we count things, we add things together and describe what we're doing with math. but math doesn't cease to exist just because we don't have any things to count.

& it's orderly, not random. it follows laws, and makes incontrovertible statements about what is true and what is not -- yet all in the most abstract, conceptual way, which does not depend on anything tangible existing in order to be true.

so where does math come from? it pre-exists all creation, and it is conceived in intelligence. doesn't this mean that an intelligence exists before all things that exist, exist?

does the very existence of math prove God?
some very clever people realize this question is invoked by the fact that there is such a thing as math, and they are afraid, and say, mankind invents math. but i think, this cannot possibly be true. math is discovered, not invented. one cannot just 'make up math' in order to accomplish some result they want. one has to think of what they need to determine a result, and then look for math that will allow them to calculate, and see if the result that is matches the one they desire. this is not the behavior of something invented, but something which already exists, and is sought out, like treasure.
 
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KnowMe

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if 1/3 = 0.3 and 2/3 = 0.6 how come 3/3 = 1 and not 0.9
 

Nehemiah6

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does the very existence of math prove God?
Absolutely. The whole universe runs on precise mathematical principles, and who but God is the Great Mathematician?

One could go into a great deal of detail, which would probably fill a library. But every branch of true science has a mathematical component. Even the Bible presents us with the significance of specific numbers such as 7 and 12.