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Have I missed the post where you said "We?
Yes it is good to judge ourselves, or ask the Holy Spirit to reveal in us where we are lacking.
When we do that then we must be honest and brave ourselves for the answer and be willing to receive and change.
Done that many a time and boy is it an eye-opening experience.
We must be very careful not to judge others though.
As Jesus said "Take the plank out of your own eye"
It's not that I don't believe what you say.
I have seen it.
I have seen and known people who purposely sin and say "Its ok God has forgiven me or will forgive me"
I find that attitude disgraceful.
But there is a difference between said persons above and those who do sin but hate it and come before God, confess and ask for help.
Yes it is good to judge ourselves, or ask the Holy Spirit to reveal in us where we are lacking.
When we do that then we must be honest and brave ourselves for the answer and be willing to receive and change.
Done that many a time and boy is it an eye-opening experience.
We must be very careful not to judge others though.
As Jesus said "Take the plank out of your own eye"
It's not that I don't believe what you say.
I have seen it.
I have seen and known people who purposely sin and say "Its ok God has forgiven me or will forgive me"
I find that attitude disgraceful.
But there is a difference between said persons above and those who do sin but hate it and come before God, confess and ask for help.
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David was inspired and he said differently.....
Psalm 51:5 Surely I was brought forth in iniquity; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth. <---DOES the bible say ALL men are liars? YES or NO
Psalm 51:5 Surely I was brought forth in iniquity; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth. <---DOES the bible say ALL men are liars? YES or NO
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and it comes out every now and then HAHOk
To be honest I interpreted the "We" in that as applying to those who you gave your opinion on.
Therefore not including you.
Can you see how I thought that?
You didn't come across as conveying it in a personal sense to you but was conveying it to many folks who think that Jesus is a pushover etc.
If I misunderstood that and you were including yourself then I apologise.
But note that if you were including yourself then you are in the same category of the folks that you have given your opinion on.
To be honest I interpreted the "We" in that as applying to those who you gave your opinion on.
Therefore not including you.
Can you see how I thought that?
You didn't come across as conveying it in a personal sense to you but was conveying it to many folks who think that Jesus is a pushover etc.
If I misunderstood that and you were including yourself then I apologise.
But note that if you were including yourself then you are in the same category of the folks that you have given your opinion on.
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Even though we are conceived and come forth in sin I fully believe that the account of the 1st born of David with Bathsheba proves your point.....David speaks of his salvation in the present tense and when the one week old child dies he states clearly that he will go to and see that child again.......
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I think the bible talks about an age of accountability. Here is one verse in Deuteronomy about it.
Deuteronomy 1:39
“Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.”
Deuteronomy 1:39
“Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.”
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