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Deade

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Hi I am Dennis and I am an alcoholic. I was asked to share some positive fostering experiences. We kept four siblings for two years in California. We were going to adopt them but they, being black, the county turned against it feeling they would be denied their racial heritage. This was common until '92 when a federal law was drafted outlawing blocks like that. I kept a couple of boys in 2005 that were high risk, but neither could cut it in public school. They were very angry PTSD children, mad at the world. I handled them okay but school couldn't. I tried anyway. :cool:
 

calibob

Sinner saved by grace
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de·ni·al

NOUN

  1. the action of declaring something to be untrue.
  2. failure to acknowledge an unacceptable truth or emotion or to admit it into consciousness, used as a defense mechanism.
  3. a statement saying that something is not true or real : a statement in which someone denies something psychology : a condition in which someone will not admit that something sad, painful, etc., is true or real


    con·fab·u·late

    VERB
    1. formal
      engage in conversation; talk.
      "she could be heard on the telephone confabulating with someone"


    2. psychiatry; To fabricate imaginary experiences as compensation for loss of memory.


    Denial and confabulation are often involuntary. We believe the lies our subconscious makes up.
 

calibob

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Hi I am Dennis and I am an alcoholic. I was asked to share some positive fostering experiences. We kept four siblings for two years in California. We were going to adopt them but they, being black, the county turned against it feeling they would be denied their racial heritage. This was common until '92 when a federal law was drafted outlawing blocks like that. I kept a couple of boys in 2005 that were high risk, but neither could cut it in public school. They were very angry PTSD children, mad at the world. I handled them okay but school couldn't. I tried anyway. :cool:
Thank you for sharing Dennis. As always, you are a blessing.
 

calibob

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Symptoms of Major depressive disorder

The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Major depressive disorder includes the 7 symptoms listed below:

  • Low or depressed mood
  • Poor self-esteem
  • Reduced interest in previously enjoyable activities
  • Reduced interest in socializing
  • Sleeping problems
  • Altered eating habits
  • Feelings of worthlessness or hopelessness
Bipolar symptoms





Major bipolar disorder symptom patterns include: Depression. Mania. Hypomania. Psychotic symptoms. Paranoid symptoms. Intense anger and irritability. Anxiety.
What are the symptoms of bipolar disorder? - Sharecare.com
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Quick List of Bipolar Disorder Symptoms. During a manic or hypomanic phase, bipolar symptoms include: heightened sense of self-importance. exaggerated positive outlook. significantly decreased need for sleep. poor appetite and weight loss. racing speech, flight of ideas, impulsiveness.
 

calibob

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Many people often mistake isolationism with being anti social. They are far from similar.

An Antisocial personality is.>
1. Having no care for right and wrong, disregard for social obligations, norms and rules
2. Intention of exploiting others through persistent lies and manipulation for personal benefit even sometimes for pleasure
3. Having excessive ego, exhibitionism and superiority complex
4. Repeated violation of law
5. Callous indifferent attitude towards children
6. Increased hostility, aggressiveness and violent behavior
7. Lack of remorse or guilt, feeling no empathy after ill treatment of others
8. Inability to maintain normal relationship, promiscuity etc
9. Irresponsibility
10. Risk taking attitude, homicidal or suicidal behavior

They're not the same thing. People with Antisocial personalities know right from wrong. They just don't care. In fact in court an insanity defence won't hold up because they new better.
 

calibob

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They're not the same thing. People with Antisocial personalities know right from wrong. They just don't care. In fact in court an insanity defense won't hold up because they new better.[/QUOTE]

So please, lets stop calling ourselves antisocial because we prefer to be left alone and mind our own business.

Another word that's over used and seldom understood.>

psycho - a person afflicted with psychosis psychotic , psychotic person cataleptic - a person suffering from catalepsy paranoiac , paranoid - a person afflicted with paranoia schizophrenic - someone who is afflicted with schizophrenia

Functionally delusional.
 

Rosemaryx

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Thank you so much for your kind words, Magenta.

I appreciate it so much but I have to tell you, I think anyone who's read several of my posts also knows I can be meaner than a viper and not the best role model as far as temperament! o_O

I highly respect you as a wise, very giving Christian sister and am grateful for the things you share. I'm always looking for people to learn from in my Christian walk and for me, there's no better place than among other Christians who are honest and real about how hard walking that walk really is.

I think it's unfair for me to just sit in and read about everyone else, so I want to be honest in sharing that my greatest lifelong struggle has been with disordered eating. I call it disordered eating rather than an eating disorder because I've never fit into one particular category, and when I went to professionals for help, oddly enough, they totally disregarded what I told them about the eating and said that I had depression instead.

I understand that depression can be a root cause, but their solution (not surprisingly) was to try to put me on a myriad of antidepressant drugs. One of the churches I was heavily involved in (also unsurprisingly) told me to "throw away all the drugs" and "just believe" Jesus had healed me instead.

And so, after about a 10-year stretch and more counselors than I can remember, I couldn't see where the medical angle was helping me (but I thoroughly encourage anyone struggling with something to please seek professional help, because it just might work for you), I decided, no more "mood" medications, no more counselors (some were even Christian), and I'll see how I fare just trying to walk with God.

I certainly don't want to sound like I'm in some kind of dire situation. In my own estimation, I was never extreme, but in our own eyes, I guess we never are, huh? God has been so good to me in helping me to finally get up and move on from the things that really flare up my symptoms (such as the wrong friendships and relationships.) It took me years to let these things go because I was highly emotionally co-dependent. But now my relationship with food is much closer to normal than it's ever been before and I have only God and very patient people to thank for that.

And the one thing I'm grateful for in all of this is that I think it gives me just a small glimpse into the struggles of my Christian brothers and sisters. Like Paul, I've prayed many times that God would take away this "thorn" in my flesh, but it's still there. I can just imagine how many times my Christian brothers and sisters have prayed for the obsessive thoughts and cravings to go away, but every morning you wake up, and those feelings are still there.

I don't know what it's like to have to struggle with not taking a drink (that leads to an endless stream of more), but I know what it's like to be addicted to a substance, and for me, that would be food. I know what it's like to plan your entire days off or weeks around buying 3 or more bags of groceries, cooking/preparing them all, scarfing down every last morsel and then worrying about how you're going to prevent it from affecting your appearance, using every means necessary, such as purging, obsessive exercise, starving, and using sleeping pills that you're hoping will make you continuously sleep instead of eating.

Every day when I look at food in stores, ads, windows, and restaurants everywhere around me, every time I feel stressed out and try to avoid the destructive cycle I know I'm secretly planning in the back of my mind, I think about what it must be like for people who wake up in the morning and feel surrounded by the substances they crave and obsessively start planning their days around, and I feel broken-hearted for them.

Thank you all so much for sharing your stories.

I know mine is in a different category and I held back from sharing because a problem like this makes me feel a little out of place when it comes to sitting among those who really know what a true fight is. Thank you for being so gracious to listen.

Even if I don't say much here, I'm trying to follow along and will definitely be praying for the people who are bravely sharing their struggles, and taking that huge risk in order to reach out to others.

God bless and thank you so much again. :)
I love you sister...I think you are beautiful in Christ...
I do not need to see you in person , your personality shines right through the screen...
Your heart towards others is very refreshing , you are loved more than you know...xox...
 

Bingo

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Hi I am Dennis and I am an alcoholic. I was asked to share some positive fostering experiences. We kept four siblings for two years in California. We were going to adopt them but they, being black, the county turned against it feeling they would be denied their racial heritage. This was common until '92 when a federal law was drafted outlawing blocks like that. I kept a couple of boys in 2005 that were high risk, but neither could cut it in public school. They were very angry PTSD children, mad at the world. I handled them okay but school couldn't. I tried anyway. :cool:
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"Thank you Dennis for sharing!
"Hi, I am 'Bingo' Bob and I am a grateful recovering alcoholic. Over two decades ago, my wife and I went
thru the nightmare of dealing with CPS over our grandson. We were awarded legal guardianship...
several years later we went through adoption proceedings...( this all was in Az. )...we went to several
grandparent seminars and talked to many folks struggling with the legal system...it can be an ordeal.
I found great help through some Catholic resources and Ombudsman which helped us to finally get
the adoption degree without the high price of an attorney. Love and perseverance paid off."

'Praise God'
 

calibob

Sinner saved by grace
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When my son Bobby was deployed to Kuait and Iraq his now ex-wife got hooked on and arrested for meth, sent to NA then did the 13th step with another in active addiction.

CPS California, stepped in and Bubba (my grandson) was removed. Bobby had to go through hoops too. He's got serious PTSD, so he decided Bubba would be better off with his grand mother near here. With free legal assistance from the Army it's now a done deal.
 

calibob

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CBD oil is a non intoxicating hemp extract is approve by the VA and helps reduce the flashbacks from PTSD but the mood swings are a different issue. He's in college now with a mechanical engineering major and will start attending a university in Texas where Veterans can attend tuition free. He quit taking opioids for pain inflicted through serving our Country. He's getting better. PRAISE THE LORD!

Barbra his ex wife is still looking for her bottom. To bad.
 

calibob

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Bobby was shot in the Kevlar vest but only got a bruise. A package bomb exploded outside his hummer while on patrol . The right ear however is permanently damaged and his left knee was permanently injured during PT also.
 
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Well.......After the Marines I fell into a 3 year drug run.........had not been in church for ages, had not cracked a bible to read practically in my whole life......was "saved" at one of these big churches that had the "anyone want to be saved, raise your hand crap" and while not being saved was taken down before the church and immersed (which was invalid).........so....back to the drugs.......was smoking weed like a smoke house full bore.....was running with a guy that was dealing about 70 ounces of coke a week....were were smoking, snorting and eating coke, firing crystal meth, pills of every flavor, acid, hash, opium from Granite City Illinois etc....bad deal....went through rehab once and gained almost 35 pounds in about 25 days and I tried like hell to quit on my own.......would go weeks toward the end and then succumb to peer pressure and go on a binge.......WELL......my faithful grandmother hit here knees in prayer and refused to give up on me......One day out of the blue I came to her and said....I really need to get back in church and started going on Sunday Mornings......

My brother had surrendered to preach and his first sermon which was about as scriptural as the National Enquirer, I remember thinking I did not want to die and go to hell and was not sure if I was even saved, so I prayed and asked the Lord to save me and forgive me of my life of sin and wickedness.....I then proceeded to go down before the church and apologize to probably 550 people for all that I had done and the reproach I had brought upon them.....Now with JESUS, I was able to quit ALL the hard stuff, pills etc......did have a harder time with weed.....

So.....to get right I had to move 350 miles away.....I wrote a letter of apology and witnessed and passed it out to every person I could find that I had "partied" with.....they all dropped me like a hot brick except ONE.......So....I sold the ONLY thing my dad had left me which was a 1961 Les Paul Gibson SG, made 3 truck payments and moved to Little Rock Arkansas....started attending church three times a week, decided to go to seminary and make up in study time for lost time....was studying 60 plus hours a week, reading the bible before work, at lunch and before bed..........

NOW......some 29 years later.........I love the truth, I am base and foolish yet God has used me to witness to no telling how many people.....have spoken at almost 30 churches, been on radio, cable t.v., internet, a book on the second coming in numerous states and countries and ALL glory goes to GOD...............

God uses the weak, base things of the world to confound the wise!!!!!!! <-----and for SURE I am all that!
 

calibob

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Thank's dcon that was a joy to read. Nobody gets away without learning something and humity and surrender tops the list. Good share.(y):cool:
 

calibob

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@Sarabeth09
This one's for you.be still, let go..jpg
be still, let go..jpg

Al anon is for family members of alcoholics originally so the 12 steps are nearly Identical to AA
The Twelve Steps
These Twelve Steps, adapted nearly word-for-word from the Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous, have been a tool for spiritual growth for millions of Al‑Anon/Alateen members. At meetings, Al‑Anon/Alateen members share with each other the personal lessons they have learned from practicing from these Steps.
  1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
  2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
  3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
  4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
  5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
  6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
  7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
  8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
  9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
  10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
  11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
  12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to others, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
© Al-Anon’s Twelve Steps, copyright 1996 by Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc. Reprinted with permission of Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc.

My computer just got stuck trying to download the al anon traditions.
 

calibob

Sinner saved by grace
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I was just thinking... Since in in the steps we have to reveal good and bad. We tend draw on the negative, forget what was done to us and concentrate on what was done for us... We had fun sometimes. My fave" was bumpercars at the pike!
 

Magenta

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Thank you so much for your kind words, Magenta.

I appreciate it so much but I have to tell you, I think anyone who's read several of my posts also knows I can be meaner than a viper and not the best role model as far as temperament! o_O

I highly respect you as a wise, very giving Christian sister and am grateful for the things you share. I'm always looking for people to learn from in my Christian walk and for me, there's no better place than among other Christians who are honest and real about how hard walking that walk really is.

I think it's unfair for me to just sit in and read about everyone else, so I want to be honest in sharing that my greatest lifelong struggle has been with disordered eating. I call it disordered eating rather than an eating disorder because I've never fit into one particular category, and when I went to professionals for help, oddly enough, they totally disregarded what I told them about the eating and said that I had depression instead.

I understand that depression can be a root cause, but their solution (not surprisingly) was to try to put me on a myriad of antidepressant drugs. One of the churches I was heavily involved in (also unsurprisingly) told me to "throw away all the drugs" and "just believe" Jesus had healed me instead.

And so, after about a 10-year stretch and more counselors than I can remember, I couldn't see where the medical angle was helping me (but I thoroughly encourage anyone struggling with something to please seek professional help, because it just might work for you), I decided, no more "mood" medications, no more counselors (some were even Christian), and I'll see how I fare just trying to walk with God.

I certainly don't want to sound like I'm in some kind of dire situation. In my own estimation, I was never extreme, but in our own eyes, I guess we never are, huh? God has been so good to me in helping me to finally get up and move on from the things that really flare up my symptoms (such as the wrong friendships and relationships.) It took me years to let these things go because I was highly emotionally co-dependent. But now my relationship with food is much closer to normal than it's ever been before and I have only God and very patient people to thank for that.

And the one thing I'm grateful for in all of this is that I think it gives me just a small glimpse into the struggles of my Christian brothers and sisters. Like Paul, I've prayed many times that God would take away this "thorn" in my flesh, but it's still there. I can just imagine how many times my Christian brothers and sisters have prayed for the obsessive thoughts and cravings to go away, but every morning you wake up, and those feelings are still there.

I don't know what it's like to have to struggle with not taking a drink (that leads to an endless stream of more), but I know what it's like to be addicted to a substance, and for me, that would be food. I know what it's like to plan your entire days off or weeks around buying 3 or more bags of groceries, cooking/preparing them all, scarfing down every last morsel and then worrying about how you're going to prevent it from affecting your appearance, using every means necessary, such as purging, obsessive exercise, starving, and using sleeping pills that you're hoping will make you continuously sleep instead of eating.

Every day when I look at food in stores, ads, windows, and restaurants everywhere around me, every time I feel stressed out and try to avoid the destructive cycle I know I'm secretly planning in the back of my mind, I think about what it must be like for people who wake up in the morning and feel surrounded by the substances they crave and obsessively start planning their days around, and I feel broken-hearted for them.

Thank you all so much for sharing your stories.

I know mine is in a different category and I held back from sharing because a problem like this makes me feel a little out of place when it comes to sitting among those who really know what a true fight is. Thank you for being so gracious to listen.

Even if I don't say much here, I'm trying to follow along and will definitely be praying for the people who are bravely sharing their struggles, and taking that huge risk in order to reach out to others.

God bless and thank you so much again. :)
Good morning everyone, and good morning Kim :) My name is Magenta and I am a recovered alcoholic/addict. I also sometimes say I am a recovered Catholic :giggle: To say I am a recovered alcoholic/addict simply means I no longer use mind and mood altering substances, nor do I crave them, or obsess about them in any way. The only promise of NA is that an addict, ANY addict, can stop using, lose the desire to use, and find a new way to live. For this I thank God.

One of my problems was that I did not really see myself as an addict. Using for twenty four years and overdosing and being hospitalised multiple times, all connected to harder drugs and alcohol, well, I simply tried self-imposed damage control by using easier softer drugs that would not kill me...

It took me eighteen months of abstinence before I saw the disease more clearly for what it was, and how it had infiltrated just about every aspect of my life. None of the steps in NA mention drugs, but do reference the disease of addiction. I used to read the literature and substitute other things when drugs were mentioned, because I did understand that drugs were just a symptom of my disease.

Part of the disease is a distorted self image. Women in particular seem to be susceptible to this, though we probably all suffer from it in some way, shape, or form. I remember always wanting to be smaller, and believing I was fat when I was in actual fact quite slim. I weighed less in my later teens than I did during puberty, when I was always trying to hide my body. I maintained a body weight close to one hundred and twenty pounds throughout my twenties (I am 5'4"), except when I did certain drugs, and then I loved it when I fell below a hundred and ten, though others told me I looked like I was ready for the morgue :unsure::giggle::oops::geek:

Having lost forty pounds in the last year and a half by changing my diet for convenience sake, which acted as portion control, has given me far more perspective on what being overweight really is, and what a distorted self image I still can carry. But it does get better :D