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The Keys to the Kingdom
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Jesus, Peter, Paul, and others expressed the need for people to repent, be water and Holy Ghost baptized after believing the message of Jesus' sacrifice.
If there was no significance to following these instructions why insist people submit to them?
Pharisees rejected the counsel (instruction formally given) of God not being baptized. Luke 7:30.
If there was no significance to following these instructions why insist people submit to them?
Pharisees rejected the counsel (instruction formally given) of God not being baptized. Luke 7:30.
What a load of drivel.
Remorse is sorrow for harm or loss done to oneself.
Regret is sorrow for harm or injury done to others.
Repentance is sorrow for offending God and our sins against God.
After repentance comes believing and faith in what Jesus preaches to us - the good news of the gospel of salvation.
Then in response to our repentance and believing we put our new faith into action and follow (obey) the commandments laid
down by Jesus and the Apostles:
water baptism by full immersion confessing our faith in Jesus as our Lord and Saviour (for the remission of our sins - symbolic
of death, burial ands resurrection to a new life).
baptism of the Holy Spirit (Romans 8) to receive the Spirit of power and truth and adoption. So that now in the strength of God
we can be overcomers and conquer the flesh and Satan.
Praying in tongues, that is praying in the Holy Spirit, is our most important defence against the daily struggle against the flesh
and the world.
Children of God do not need to ask for any refilling of the Holy Spirit on a daily basis or whatever as the baptism of the Holy Spirit
is eternal and we are never forsaken nor abandoned [even if one walks away Jesus is forever faithful].
Remorse is sorrow for harm or loss done to oneself.
Regret is sorrow for harm or injury done to others.
Repentance is sorrow for offending God and our sins against God.
After repentance comes believing and faith in what Jesus preaches to us - the good news of the gospel of salvation.
Then in response to our repentance and believing we put our new faith into action and follow (obey) the commandments laid
down by Jesus and the Apostles:
water baptism by full immersion confessing our faith in Jesus as our Lord and Saviour (for the remission of our sins - symbolic
of death, burial ands resurrection to a new life).
baptism of the Holy Spirit (Romans 8) to receive the Spirit of power and truth and adoption. So that now in the strength of God
we can be overcomers and conquer the flesh and Satan.
Praying in tongues, that is praying in the Holy Spirit, is our most important defence against the daily struggle against the flesh
and the world.
Children of God do not need to ask for any refilling of the Holy Spirit on a daily basis or whatever as the baptism of the Holy Spirit
is eternal and we are never forsaken nor abandoned [even if one walks away Jesus is forever faithful].
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To repent toward God requires that one see how they have offended God. Simple mental ascent does not constitute believing in Christ for salvation. The Holy Spirit ministers in the heart and men see how they justly deserve eternal condemnation.
What you are espousing is not a biblical soteriology but a self redemption through water baptism followed by evidences you have been taught to exhibit to prove you are saved.
There remains no evidence or biblical mandate that teaches we should seek to pray in tongues. Christ is my defense and my hope of eternal salvation. The Holy Spirit leads me, I do not endeavor to tell the Holy Spirit what He should do.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
What you are espousing is not a biblical soteriology but a self redemption through water baptism followed by evidences you have been taught to exhibit to prove you are saved.
There remains no evidence or biblical mandate that teaches we should seek to pray in tongues. Christ is my defense and my hope of eternal salvation. The Holy Spirit leads me, I do not endeavor to tell the Holy Spirit what He should do.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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From the words of paul
There is ONE LORD
There is ONE FAITH
There is ONE BAPTISM
It is. Not water baptism my friend, It is the baptism of God.
Again, your interpretation of those passages are your issue, you make the bible contradict itself. And your trying to replace the work of God in salvation with the work of man, Thats blasphemy!
There is ONE LORD
There is ONE FAITH
There is ONE BAPTISM
It is. Not water baptism my friend, It is the baptism of God.
Again, your interpretation of those passages are your issue, you make the bible contradict itself. And your trying to replace the work of God in salvation with the work of man, Thats blasphemy!
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NO! They are not works.
They are the work of God.
You have been told this, why do you continue to resist?
A work is something one can boast in.
I can not boast in the fact I repented. Because repentance demands humility, not work. I can not boast of infilling myself with the HS, God did that work
I CAN boast of being baptised, because it is me doing the work. And the end result of that work is my reward.
Salvation is a gift my friend, Not a reward.
NOT oF WORKS LEST ANYONE SHOULD BOAST!.
They are the work of God.
You have been told this, why do you continue to resist?
A work is something one can boast in.
I can not boast in the fact I repented. Because repentance demands humility, not work. I can not boast of infilling myself with the HS, God did that work
I CAN boast of being baptised, because it is me doing the work. And the end result of that work is my reward.
Salvation is a gift my friend, Not a reward.
NOT oF WORKS LEST ANYONE SHOULD BOAST!.
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What a load of drivel (using your own words)
Paul calls people fools who think they begin in the spirit (grace through faith int he work of God) and have to perfect in the flesh (works of righteousness)
We can not begin to pay for our sin let alone maintain our salvation by our works.
Paul calls people fools who think they begin in the spirit (grace through faith int he work of God) and have to perfect in the flesh (works of righteousness)
We can not begin to pay for our sin let alone maintain our salvation by our works.
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Context is so crucial. We are told to rightly divide the word of truth. (2 Tim 2:15)
To understand Paul's comment, one must start reading from Galatians 1:6 and continue through chapters 2 and 3.
PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY STILL HAD TO FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT LAWS AND BE CIRCUMCISED.
Paul is speaking of individuals thinking circumcision was still required for the N.T. church. (Gal 2:3) Circumcision was a requirement of the O.T. law.
The entire 3 chapters explain that O.T. law is not to be enjoined as pertaining to one's righteousness outlined in the N.T. (Gal 2:17-21)
In conclusion, Paul says:
Gal 3:26-29
*For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
FOR AS MANY of you AS HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST have put on Christ.
*(It takes faith to act upon the instructions given on the Day of Pentecost. (Acts 2:38))
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
The O.T. circumcision of the flesh is not needed for one to be saved.
To understand Paul's comment, one must start reading from Galatians 1:6 and continue through chapters 2 and 3.
PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY STILL HAD TO FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT LAWS AND BE CIRCUMCISED.
Paul is speaking of individuals thinking circumcision was still required for the N.T. church. (Gal 2:3) Circumcision was a requirement of the O.T. law.
The entire 3 chapters explain that O.T. law is not to be enjoined as pertaining to one's righteousness outlined in the N.T. (Gal 2:17-21)
In conclusion, Paul says:
Gal 3:26-29
*For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
FOR AS MANY of you AS HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST have put on Christ.
*(It takes faith to act upon the instructions given on the Day of Pentecost. (Acts 2:38))
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
The O.T. circumcision of the flesh is not needed for one to be saved.
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Water baptism is just a much of a work as circumcision, Paul would make the same words today to the church he did back then to the jews,
What makes you think water baptism, a command of God. Is more important to do that circumcision, a command of God?
What paul was attacking was peopel who were trying to add WORKS to the GOSPEL. Ie, salvation by works. And rejecting salvation by Grace
Satan has done to some in the todays church what he did to some in the new church, the only thing which changed is what the work was (baptism vs circumcision)
What makes you think water baptism, a command of God. Is more important to do that circumcision, a command of God?
What paul was attacking was peopel who were trying to add WORKS to the GOSPEL. Ie, salvation by works. And rejecting salvation by Grace
Satan has done to some in the todays church what he did to some in the new church, the only thing which changed is what the work was (baptism vs circumcision)
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Wow.
1. They had to repent before they believed, How can you believe when you still do not believe in the gospel?
2. They were told to do many things, nut jost be water baptised. You insist that ne work is greater than every other work God has ever commanded anyone to do. That should be your red light right there. But you do not see it
3. You get the gift of the spirit once you have faith (eph 1: 13- 14) and it is not your work.
Why are you trying to make everything your work of your own power?
That should be your second red flag.
Ps. I can do red x’s too
1. They had to repent before they believed, How can you believe when you still do not believe in the gospel?
2. They were told to do many things, nut jost be water baptised. You insist that ne work is greater than every other work God has ever commanded anyone to do. That should be your red light right there. But you do not see it
3. You get the gift of the spirit once you have faith (eph 1: 13- 14) and it is not your work.
Why are you trying to make everything your work of your own power?
That should be your second red flag.
Ps. I can do red x’s too
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I am not, Paul made a point, That point still stands, He spoke of circumcision, but if you read galations, he meant any works of the flesh. In fact he called the jews FOOLS for thinking they are saved by grace in the spirit, but must perfect that salvation by works of the flesh.
Water baptism would be considered a work.
Once again, You are trying to replace the work of God in baptism with the work of man! Thats blasphemy!
Water baptism would be considered a work.
Once again, You are trying to replace the work of God in baptism with the work of man! Thats blasphemy!
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Wow.
1. They had to repent before they believed, How can you believe when you still do not believe in the gospel?
2. They were told to do many things, nut jost be water baptised. You insist that ne work is greater than every other work God has ever commanded anyone to do. That should be your red light right there. But you do not see it
3. You get the gift of the spirit once you have faith (eph 1: 13- 14) and it is not your work.
Why are you trying to make everything your work of your own power?
That should be your second red flag.
Ps. I can do red x’s too
1. They had to repent before they believed, How can you believe when you still do not believe in the gospel?
2. They were told to do many things, nut jost be water baptised. You insist that ne work is greater than every other work God has ever commanded anyone to do. That should be your red light right there. But you do not see it
3. You get the gift of the spirit once you have faith (eph 1: 13- 14) and it is not your work.
Why are you trying to make everything your work of your own power?
That should be your second red flag.
Ps. I can do red x’s too
It is understood by reading Acts 2:17-36 that the individuals Peter spoke with believed who Jesus was and, upon realizing it, they asked WHAT THEY MUST DO. They are instructed to repent, get water baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sin and they will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)
If sins are remitted the instant one believes than those present at Pentecost would not have been told to repent of anything because there would be no sins requiring repentance. Why were they told to repent?
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