How can the Power of the Cross be voided out in the life of a Believer? Why is the Cross the power of God? How do I activate the power of the Cross?

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For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the Cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

For the preaching of the Cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor. 1:17-18

For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Cor. 2:2
 

Dino246

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Why is "Cross" capitalized when it is not so in any reliable translation? Perhaps there is an overemphasis on a wooden instrument of execution and a lack of emphasis on the Person Who was killed on it... and later resurrected.
 

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Your answer's right there in front of you. Preach the gospel.

Likewise that power is voided out in your life if you don't.


God has made it to where the only thing that can save us is the cross. He has put all power to save in the message of the cross.

Faith activates the power. And grace is what it produces.
 

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Romans 1
16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.”
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How can the Power of the Cross be voided out in the life of a Believer?
If they continue is Belief in the Word of God and Faith in the Atonement of Jesus they cannot lose the power of the Cross.. Which is to save them from the Lake of fire and grant for them eternal life with the LORD..

Why is the Cross the power of God?
Well it was by this act that the power of death was defeated and the satanic challenge against the authority of God was overcome..

How do I activate the power of the Cross?
We activiate the power of the cross in our lives by Believing in the Word of God and by trusting 100% in the Atonement Jesus secured by His death on the cross..


 
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“Nailing it to His Cross . . . triumphing over them in it” means that Jesus’ great victory was won on the Cross, and on the Cross exclusively (Col. 2:14-15).

If it is any message other than the Cross, then it’s false doctrine. The Apostle Paul said so (Gal. 1:8-9).”


JSM
 

Dino246

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“Nailing it to His Cross . . . triumphing over them in it” means that Jesus’ great victory was won on the Cross, and on the Cross exclusively (Col. 2:14-15).

If it is any message other than the Cross, then it’s false doctrine. The Apostle Paul said so (Gal. 1:8-9).”

JSM
Colossians 2 has no hint of "exclusively".

The cross is not the message; it is the means to the core truth of the gospel, and is an encompassing metaphor for the gospel. Once you divorce the cross from its root in the gospel, you have a false gospel.
 

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God has made it to where the only thing that can save us is the cross. He has put all power to save in the message of the cross.
My faith is in the Living Word of God; Jesus saves, not a piece of wood.
 

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My faith is in the Living Word of God; Jesus saves, not a piece of wood.
What part of "message of" are you having a hard time grasping?

The message of the cross is the gospel. Faith in the gospel is the only means to be saved from our sins. Hence it's faith in the message of the cross that produces righteousness in oneself. Faith in the gospel removes sin and imparts the Holy Spirit within the believer.

Luke 24:36
46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,

47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Matthew 4:17


How is it you can only see a reference to material wood is beyond me.
 
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What part of "message of" are you having a hard time grasping?

The message of the cross is the gospel. Faith in the gospel is the only means to be saved from our sins. Hence it's faith in the message of the cross that produces righteousness in oneself. Faith in the gospel removes sin and imparts the Holy Spirit within the believer.

Luke 24:36
46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,

47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Matthew 4:17


How is it you can only see a reference to material wood is beyond me.
This is the reason why:

“11 And for this cause (the rejection of Christ and the Cross) God shall send them strong delusion (if one doesn’t want “the Truth,” God will see to it one receives a “delusion”), that they should believe a lie (should have been translated, “that they should believe the lie”; the Greek Text has the definite article “the lie,” which refers to a specific lie; that “lie” pertains to anything that leads a person away from the Cross):

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the Truth (who would not accept the Cross), but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (The Greek has the definite article, which actually says, “the unrighteousness,” specifying a particular unrighteousness; it is really referring to the results of rejection of the Cross of Christ.)” 2 Thess. 2

Excerpt From
The Expositor's Study Bible
Jimmy Swaggart
https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-expositors-study-bible/id399697870
This material may be protected by copyright.
 
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“The Doctrine Of The Cross

The material that we hope to bring you in this Chapter is the most important that you as a Believer will ever know or have presented to you. I realize that’s quite a statement, but I know it to be true. I am not speaking of my ability or the lack thereof as it regards the subject matter, but rather the subject matter itself. Unless the Believer understands this which the Apostle Paul gave to us, even as the Lord gave it to him (Gal. 1:12), while he can be a Christian, and can even make Heaven his home, the fact is, he cannot live a victorious, overcoming, Christian life.

Considering that our Lord paid an awful price for our Redemption, I should think it would be obvious that He wants us to have all that is possible to have at this time. But unfortunately, most Christians are living far beneath the Spiritual Privileges they could have.”

“I do not say this from an academic perspective, but rather from experience, even bitter experience. If by the Grace of God, we can impart Truth to you that will enable you to live a victorious life; your Victory will be my reward.

THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST

Paul said:

“For Christ sent me not to baptize (presents to us a Cardinal Truth) , but to preach the Gospel (the manner in which one may be Saved from sin) : not with wisdom of words (intellectualism is not the Gospel) , lest the Cross of Christ should be made of none effect. (This tells us in no uncertain terms that the Cross of Christ must always be the emphasis of the Message) ” (I Cor. 1:17).

In this one Verse, the Apostle tells us what the Gospel of Jesus Christ actually is. It is the Message of the Cross.”

“This means, if the preacher is not preaching the Cross, then whatever it is he is preaching, in its own way it may be good, but it’s not the Gospel, and it will not help anyone. In fact, the only Message that will save, help, heal, bless, instruct, lead, guide, empower, is the Message of the Cross. In our next Chapter we will address the means by which all of this comes about.

Unfortunately, the modern Church is little preaching the Cross anymore. As a result, whatever is being preached is not the Gospel, at least for the most part, and will do precious little, if any, good.

The message that is being preached presently is one of “morality” and “ethics.” Now those two words sound very good to most, because most everyone wants better morals, and most everyone wants that which is ethical. But to treat this subject in the way that it is presently being treated, one is really only treating the symptoms. Man’s real problem is not a lack of ethics or immorality; even those things are the end results of his state. Man’s problem is sin, and there is only one answer for sin, and that is the Cross of Christ.

“But modern man, at least according to most preachers, is not really a sinner, he’s just not properly motivated, or else he really doesn’t know how wonderful and good he actually is. So he needs a preacher to tell him these things, which will solve his problems; however, the sad truth is, no problems are solved at all by this means.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ, and we are speaking of the Message of the Cross, is not a Gospel of diplomacy. It is rather an ultimatum! We do the thing God’s Way or else it’s not done at all.”

“AN ILLUSTRATION

Some time back I saw a cartoon that explains the modern Ministry to the proverbial “T.”

Two men were standing and looking at a huge machine that was working away. Smoke was coming out of its stacks, and pulleys were turning and wheels were churning. It was one great beehive of motion.

One man asked the other one, “What does it do?”

The one to whom the question was asked, looked somewhat blank and answered, “Do?”

The truth is the machine did not do anything. It did not manufacture anything, it did not repair anything, it was just a machine of motion.”

“That’s basically the same thing the modern church is doing. It’s just one vast beehive of motion, with nothing being done for the Lord. In other words, no souls are Saved, no Believers are baptized with the Holy Spirit, no lives are changed, no sick are healed, no bondages broken, etc. — despite all the motion!


Let us say it again, if the preacher is not preaching the Cross, he’s not preaching the Gospel, and if he’s not preaching the Gospel, whatever it is he is preaching, is of no consequence!”


JSM

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Dino246

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This is the reason why:

“11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thess. 2
Fixed it for you. :)
 

Dino246

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Paul said:

“For Christ sent me not to baptize (presents to us a Cardinal Truth) , but to preach the Gospel (the manner in which one may be Saved from sin) : not with wisdom of words (intellectualism is not the Gospel) , lest the Cross of Christ should be made of none effect. (This tells us in no uncertain terms that the Cross of Christ must always be the emphasis of the Message) ” (I Cor. 1:17).
NO HE DID NOT!

Here are Paul's words, without the unbiblical additions:

For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void.

Your theology is unbalanced because you insist on reading a commentary instead of plain Scripture.
 

posthuman

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Fixed it for you. :)
thank you!

i have a hard time reading any Bible that has a bunch of some else's interjections all over in it.



(should have been translated, “that they should believe the lie”; the Greek Text has the definite article “the lie,” which refers to a specific lie; that “lie” pertains to anything that leads a person away from the Cross)
here's a question -- the interjected commentary takes pains to point out that this passage is actually speaking about a specific lie -
so why does Mssr. Swaggart immediately define that specific lie as any infinite number of lies: "
anything that leads away from the cross" ?

that is very vague & generalized, not specific. what is the lie?
 
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The Doctrine Of The Cross - Part 2

THE MESSAGE OF THE CROSS IS THE POWER OF GOD

Paul said:

“For the preaching (Word) of the Cross is to them who perish foolishness (Spiritual things cannot be discerned by unredeemed people, but that doesn’t matter; the Cross must be preached just the same, even as we shall see) ; but unto us who are Saved it is the Power of God. (The Cross is the Power of God simply because it was there that the total sin debt was paid, giving the Holy Spirit, in Whom the Power resides, latitude to work mightily within our lives) ” (I Cor. 1:18).

First of all, the word translated “preaching,” in the above Scripture, in the Greek is “logos.” It either means “word” or “message,” and should have been translated that way. It would then read, “For the Message of the Cross. . . .”

“How is the Message of the Cross the Power of God?

There was no power in that wooden beam on which Jesus died! In fact, if the actual Cross on which Jesus died had been preserved all these centuries, and was now found, there would be no more power in that piece of wood than in any other piece of wood. As well, there was no power in the death of Christ per se. In fact, the Scripture says, “He was crucified through weakness” (II Cor. 13:4).

This does not mean that He was personally weak, but that it was a contrived weakness. In other words, he could have called down any number of Angels if He had desired to have done so. So, how is the Message of the Cross the Power of God?”

“The Power is in the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:8). The idea is, when Jesus died on the Cross, He atoned for all sin, past, present, and future, at least for all who will believe (Jn. 3:16). Now that the sin debt is forever paid, this made it possible for the Holy Spirit to come into the heart and life of the Believer, there to abide permanently (Jn. 14:16-17).


The Cross of Christ was a legal work. It satisfied a legal debt that man legally owed God, but could not pay. When the Law was satisfied, which it was by the Death of Christ, then the Holy Spirit could come into the heart and life of the Believer to reside permanently (I Cor. 3:16). As stated, He is the One Who has the Power. But it is the Cross of Christ that has made it all possible.

Unfortunately, most in the modern church don’t know this. In other words, they don’t know how the Holy Spirit works. In fact, this which we are bringing to you is so much a legal entity, that the Holy Spirit calls it a “Law.” He said:”

“The Power is in the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:8). The idea is, when Jesus died on the Cross, He atoned for all sin, past, present, and future, at least for all who will believe (Jn. 3:16). Now that the sin debt is forever paid, this made it possible for the Holy Spirit to come into the heart and life of the Believer, there to abide permanently (Jn. 14:16-17).

The Cross of Christ was a legal work. It satisfied a legal debt that man legally owed God, but could not pay. When the Law was satisfied, which it was by the Death of Christ, then the Holy Spirit could come into the heart and life of the Believer to reside permanently (I Cor. 3:16). As stated, He is the One Who has the Power. But it is the Cross of Christ that has made it all possible.

Unfortunately, most in the modern church don’t know this. In other words, they don’t know how the Holy Spirit works. In fact, this which we are bringing to you is so much a legal entity, that the Holy Spirit calls it a “Law.” He said:"

“The Power is in the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:8). The idea is, when Jesus died on the Cross, He atoned for all sin, past, present, and future, at least for all who will believe (Jn. 3:16). Now that the sin debt is forever paid, this made it possible for the Holy Spirit to come into the heart and life of the Believer, there to abide permanently (Jn. 14:16-17).


The Cross of Christ was a legal work. It satisfied a legal debt that man legally owed God, but could not pay. When the Law was satisfied, which it was by the Death of Christ, then the Holy Spirit could come into the heart and life of the Believer to reside permanently (I Cor. 3:16). As stated, He is the One Who has the Power. But it is the Cross of Christ that has made it all possible.

Unfortunately, most in the modern church don’t know this. In other words, they don’t know how the Holy Spirit works. In fact, this which we are bringing to you is so much a legal entity, that the Holy Spirit calls it a “Law.” He said:”

“THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS

And I quote from THE EXPOSITOR’S STUDY BIBLE:

“For the Law (that which we are about to give is a Law of God, devised by the Godhead in eternity past [I Pet. 1:18-20]; this Law, in fact, is ‘God’s Prescribed Order of Victory’) of the Spirit (Holy Spirit, i.e., ‘the way the Spirit works’) of Life (all life comes from Christ, but through the Holy Spirit [Jn. 16:13-14]) in Christ Jesus (any time Paul uses this term or one of its derivatives, he is, without fail, referring to what Christ did at the Cross, which makes this ‘life’ possible) has made me free (given me total Victory) from the Law of Sin and Death (these are the two most powerful Laws in the Universe; the ‘Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus’ alone is stronger than the ‘Law of Sin and Death’; this means that if the Believer attempts to live for God by any manner other than Faith in Christ and the Cross, he is doomed to failure) ” (Rom. 8:2).”


“To show how close the Sacrifice of Christ and the Holy Spirit are, please note carefully the following:

THE SLAIN LAMB AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD

The following is the Scripture and the notes concerning this subject, taken directly from THE EXPOSITOR’S STUDY BIBLE. John the Beloved wrote:

“And one of the Elders said unto me, Weep not (states that man’s dilemma has been solved) : behold, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the Book, and to loose the Seven Seals thereof (presents Jesus Christ) .”

“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the Throne and of the four Beasts, and in the midst of the Elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain (the Crucifixion of Christ is represented here by the word ‘Lamb,’ which refers to the fact that it was the Cross which Redeemed mankind; the slain Lamb Alone has Redeemed all things) , having seven horns (horns denote dominion, and ‘seven’ denotes total dominion; all of this was done for you and me, meaning that we can have total dominion over the powers of darkness, and in every capacity; so there is no excuse for a lack of victory) and seven eyes (denotes total, perfect, pure, and complete illumination of all things spiritual, which is again made possible for you and me by the Cross; if the Believer makes the Cross the Object of his Faith, he will never be drawn away by false doctrine) , which are the Seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the Earth (signifying that the Holy Spirit, in all His Perfection and universality, functions entirely within the parameters of the Finished Work of Christ; in other words, it is required that we ever make the Cross the Object of our Faith, which gives the Holy Spirit latitude, and guarantees the ‘dominion,’ and the ‘illumination’ [Isa. 11:2; Rom. 8:2]).

“And He (the Lord Jesus Christ) came and took the Book out of the Right Hand of Him (God the Father) Who sat upon the Throne. (All of Heaven stands in awe as the Lamb steps forward to take the Book) ” (Rev. 5:5-7).”

JSM

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posthuman

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NO HE DID NOT!

Here are Paul's words, without the unbiblical additions:

For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void.

Your theology is unbalanced because you insist on reading a commentary instead of plain Scripture.


For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified
(1 Corinthians 2:2)
i worry that Jimmy Swaggart & his disciples may leave Jesus Christ out.


@MessageOfTheCross -- serious question:

it is clear that you think about the cross very often. i imagine you often picture it in your minds eye. when you do, is it empty?
or is Jesus Christ the Son of the Living God on it?