99% of CC BDF First page is "lets figure out salvation"

Why are believers confused over salvation?
We see thread after thread on salvation.
One must go to page 2,or 3 to find another topic.
You have the cross skizm "ohhhh brutha ittttssss the crossssssss"
The works schizm" obey the law"
The greasy grace schizm "all your sins are forgiven,you do not repent. Hey even your future sins are forgiven....just relax,have a cigarrette and enjoy a secular life"

And on and on.
They Can't figure out salvation.

Folks no longer...and never did properly...study scriptures.

Then you have the new age religion types which throw new , new age religion interpretations of the Bible into the mix. Then there are new Bible editions which are written to support the new, new age religion interpretations.

Example; recently Andy Stanley all of a sudden concludes that the ...Ten Commandments...or...G-d's commandments no longer apply to us under the new covenant, The Pope says...if G-d made you homosexual then He loves you as such. That is an absurd....interpretation;......extension;.....you are a drunkard, thief, murderer, etc, G-d made you that way so He loves you that way, et al.

No wonder the Bible tells us in no less than 14 places to not forget...common sense.

@preston39 there is a way to believe the truth of 1 John 1:10 AND believe that you are saved

this way: believe that Christ had FULLY paid the penalty for your sins past, present, AND FUTURE

get a receipt that says paid in full do you still owe on that debt?

When you owe a debt, and you pay the debt off, and get a receipt that says paid in full do you still owe on that debt?

It is finished = paid in FULL......and HE paid for the sin debt of the WHOLE world the bible states

and to the believer--->where sin abounds GRACE abounds the MORE <---this cannot apply to the LOST because they are CONDEMNED under the LAW

Your view totally devalues the work that Christ accomplished on the cross and it waters down HIS BLOOD.............MY bible is clear and MY DEBT has been settled and CANCELLED........

You on the other hand state clearly that YOU are still condemned by the stance you make...........either the blood is applied or it is not....!!

no

I have not taken a word you have posted since you first arrived seriously, I certainly see no reason now.

And I am sure Jesus was not laughing when he told this parable.

He pay the debt only for those who believe in Him, if He pay the whole world, than no body go to hell.

He pay every time we ask forgiveness, for the future debt, we have to repent and ask forgiveness

@Jackson123

we don't want to devalues the work that Christ accomplished on the cross and waters down HIS BLOOD

nor do we want to state that we are still condemned by the stance we make

Take it up wit GOD....and DO ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY READ AND BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD......I am truly sick of deceivers that DENY obvious scripture to peddle LIES

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Propitiation means to atone (from dictionary)

@Jackson123

we don't want to devalues the work that Christ accomplished on the cross and waters down HIS BLOOD

nor do we want to state that we are still condemned by the stance we make

Does your church stone to death Adulterers?
Do you beat thieves to death?
What about disobedient children? What do you do to them?
Or how about Liars or those caught practicing witchcraft or Tarot card readings?

You are not under the law nor do you apply your principles in a manner that does not reek of hypocrisy and or error!!

I do not quite understand what do you mean by those statement

1. Jesus say, abide in me or you will,be like a branch that cast to fire

Did I devaluate his accomplished when I believe what He say? I believe when we not abide in Him, we go to fire because he said so.

2. You say we still condemned by the stance we make.

I think we can not make our stance to determine if we still condemned or not. If we not abide in Him than we still condemned. That not our stance or opinion. That is what jesus say in john 15.

I do not quite understand what do you mean by those statement

1. Jesus say, abide in me or you will,be like a branch that cast to fire

Did I devaluate his accomplished when I believe what He say? I believe when we not abide in Him, we go to fire because he said so.

2. You say we still condemned by the stance we make.

I think we can not make our stance to determine if we still condemned or not. If we not abide in Him than we still condemned. That not our stance or opinion. That is what jesus say in john 15.

You know as I go back and read this I see this post and I think to myself, this is probably how ya'll let things get so bad. For clarity we don't need vigilantism, really the government should be cleansing the land and killing all the wicked whores, and faggots, and witches, and adulterers, and pagans, and idol worshippers, etc. They are certainly entrenched across America, particularly the degenerate liberal conquered states that belong now to Babylon and the foreigners as God expressly warned would happen if you did not cleanse the land and put the evil away from us. But the government does not do this but is actually in cahoots with them, meanwhile anyone who will express this fundamental truth will be derided. Oh how the darkness hates the light because their own deeds are so very wicked and deserving of all death! But I just relax because the good Lord Jesus is promised to return to miserably slay all those people and he will make them burn hellfire forever, praise Jesus!

Take it up wit GOD....and DO ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY READ AND BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD......I am truly sick of deceivers that DENY obvious scripture to peddle LIES

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.