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BillG

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I do believe that yes

You can not lose what you can never earn to begin with
Oh you spoiled my comeback response.

Spoiler.

A genuine beliver will never use the grace of God as a licence to sin.
If they do they need reproof from Romans 5-6.
If they accept and change Amen.

If they refuse to and use it as an excuse to sin a free meal ticket.
Then it's time to shake the dust off.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Oh you spoiled my comeback response.

Spoiler.

A genuine beliver will never use the grace of God as a licence to sin.
If they do they need reproof from Romans 5-6.
If they accept and change Amen.

If they refuse to and use it as an excuse to sin a free meal ticket.
Then it's time to shake the dust off.
Sorry bout that!!
 

fredoheaven

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There are other scriptures Fred, I won't post them all but here is another. Perhaps the OSAS people ought to add a caveat?

"If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them."
2 Peter 2:20-22
Well, this fits the description of the dogs and the sows and not a good description for the believers.

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Philippians 3:1-3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
 

Rosemaryx

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AMEN...an influx of workers for, salvation losers and Christ devaluing deceivers..............
Satan is behind these things , and it is quite disturbing , it makes one cling closer to God...
I worry for any new believers that may pass these peoples way...

I can understand if they came in looking to chat back and forth with healthy debate , but they do not , it is like they are trying to tear down Gods Sacred word , thats what I find odd , it is like they are deaf , throwing Scripture at us with no real communication...xox...
 
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Wrong

I am so sick clean of you people saying we say stuff we have never said

If you can not be honest. Do not expect people to believe anything you say
He has about as much contextual honesty as a car salesman working in a used car dealership in Tijuana......as a matter of fact...it seems that most workers for and salvation losers peddle things we do not say, imply things we do not imply and embellish the word of God to the point of being the mere words of a comedian during amateur hour....
 
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eternally-gratefull

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He has about as much contextual honesty as a car salesman working in a used car dealership in Tijuana......as a matter of fact...it seems that most workers for and salvation losers peddle things we do not say, imply things we do not imply and embellish the word of God to the point of being the mere words of a comedian during amateur hour....
If they would listen to us, They would have to admit things.

I think that scares them.
 
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YOU PPL GRIEVE THE FATHER ,THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT! BE A FOLLOWERS OF HIS WORDS FOR YOURSELVES, AND....STOP FOLLOWING THE BLIND OR YOU WILL ALL BE IN THE SAME DITCH! IF YOU NEED HELP FIDING GODS WAY ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIVES AND ....YOU ....LET HIM! STOP PICKING AND CHOOSING WORDS TO SOOTHE YOUR OWN CONSCIENCES! 💖💖💖
The only ones in the ditch are the salvation losers and workers for...make no mistake about that.....
 
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If you were truly saved you would never think you may one day not be saved. Because as sick your never truly saved
The salvation losers never love salvation, but those that believe in eternal security lose it 184 times a week according to the NEVER lose salvation losers......
 
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Like footwashing?

Something us greasy gracers know nothing about.
After all we can sin all we want and still be saved, as we do not give two hoots.
Yeh party time.
If I have to wash your feet Bill to stay saved....I am going to use the local fire brigades HOSE..........HAHAHHAH
 
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Satan is behind these things , and it is quite disturbing , it makes one cling closer to God...
I worry for any new believers that may pass these peoples way...

I can understand if they came in looking to chat back and forth with healthy debate , but they do not , it is like they are trying to tear down Gods Sacred word , thats what I find odd , it is like they are deaf , throwing Scripture at us with no real communication...xox...
Exactly why I will oppose these jokers tooth and nail.....they totally devalue MY GOD and Savior by their false ideology
 

posthuman

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It is simple. People who belong to the OSAS brigade are saying it matters not, if a born again Christian, defects from the faith, or blasphemes God knowingly and deliberately, they will always be saved.

I do not think Christ will allow that. I do not think Jesus will say, "Well done my good and faithful servant."
what makes you think that a person, who doesn't just call themselves a Christian, but who has actually, literally been born of the Spirit, who no longer lives, but Christ lives in them, will forsake their faith or deliberately blaspheme God?

i think you might be too broad in what you define as '
salvation' -- "they went out from us, but they were not of us" -- doesn't that mean anything to you?
 
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UnderGrace

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YOU PPL GRIEVE THE FATHER ,THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT! BE A FOLLOWERS OF HIS WORDS FOR YOURSELVES, AND....STOP FOLLOWING THE BLIND OR YOU WILL ALL BE IN THE SAME DITCH! IF YOU NEED HELP FIDING GODS WAY ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIVES AND ....YOU ....LET HIM! STOP PICKING AND CHOOSING WORDS TO SOOTHE YOUR OWN CONSCIENCES! 💖💖💖

My ears are hurting :(

At least you yelled with love cause I see you gave three hearts, is one of them for me, just curious?