Donald Trump?

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RickyZ

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Ron Paul was always my vote back in the "Obama years" His son Rand Paul ran but they are somewhat unknown. lol, I still remember telling kids from my college Obama would bankrupt this country and this nerdy dude freaking out screaming "No! If Obama wins were all saved!!!" Then when he was elected and further increased the national debt they blamed the Bush administration saying "he inherited a corrupt economy!"
But that's not necessarily wrong. A president's actions aren't fully felt until they are long gone from office. I mean, we are still sinking in the ship Reagan blew the bottom out of. And that's been 30 years.
 
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Trump is alright personally perfer Mike Pence more. I just dont like how some Christians view Trump like some kind of savior when their focus should be on Christ. I do like however how Trump is not afraid to call out the constant lies of mainstream media.
 

RedeemedGift

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The problem with Trump is that he is only loyal to himself, he seeks his own interests, he doesn't have particularly strong political views it seems. I don't think he has much love for his own country. Most of the money he has is loaned to him from Russian government banks (all the big companies in Russia are practically state-owned), and his whole Trump organization is a money laundering front for the dirty Russian mafia, who are also linked with Putin's government and Russia's spy services like the FSB. I don't like the anti-conservative bias most of the media has, but that's not what Trump has to worry about, it's the FBI and the Department of Justice that will keep him awake at night and cause his eventual downfall. Guys like Michael Flynn will spill the beans on Trump to try and save their own skin - the rot is deep and widespread amongst Trump's closest allies. The sheer treachery of his actions will make the Watergate scandal insignificant.

It pains me that so many of my fellow Christians believed his lies. And it looks like he isn't even moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem either. What a con-man.
 
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It pains me that so many of my fellow Christians believed his lies.
It pains me to see fellow so-called Christians support baby killin liberals who are enemies to the Lord Jesus Christ being agents of ant-christ.

You been drankin the liberal cool-aids dube man yo!.... not that it matters much since this nation is on a downhill slide that is irreversible that it was on long before Trump got on the scene which is why soon many in this nation will openly support the one world government
 

RedeemedGift

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It pains me to see fellow so-called Christians support baby killin liberals who are enemies to the Lord Jesus Christ being agents of ant-christ.

You been drankin the liberal cool-aids dube man yo!.... not that it matters much since this nation is on a downhill slide that is irreversible that it was on long before Trump got on the scene which is why soon many in this nation will openly support the one world government
I don't see what American leftists have to do with what I said? Does criticizing Trump make me a supporter of abortion? That's unfair, I am nothing of the sort. I talked about Trump and his associates, and them alone. If you want to see the truth you must not have such a binary way of seeing things.

I pay attention to what US intelligence agencies say, and it's not just US intelligence agencies but British, French, German etc.. they all know what Trump has been up to. I do find that a lot of fellow Christians are too politicized to know what's really going on, often labeling anything that doesn't fit what they believe as "fake news" without taking the time to do proper research. I'm a conservative and I can tell fake conservatives from real ones, and Trump is no conservative. I think past Republican presidents would be rolling in their graves because of Trump if it were possible, even Nixon would.
 

RickyZ

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It pains me to see fellow so-called Christians support baby killin liberals who are enemies to the Lord Jesus Christ being agents of ant-christ.

You been drankin the liberal cool-aids dube man yo!.... not that it matters much since this nation is on a downhill slide that is irreversible that it was on long before Trump got on the scene which is why soon many in this nation will openly support the one world government
It doesn't matter if you drink the cool-aid from the left or the right. Either way this country is doomed.

How about we learn to drink the cool-aid from the center?
 
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GraceRevelation

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Trump is the man of the hour, I didn't know this at the time of the election but I'm a believer now that he is and will be a praying president. A prophesy was told in 2007 by Kim Clement ( A well known Prophet among the church), He said "There will be a praying president, not a religious one. For I will fool the people, says the Lord. I will fool the people, Yes I will. God say's, the One that will be chosen shall go in and they shall say, "He has Hot Blood". "For the spirit of God says, yes, He may have Hot Blood, but he will bring the walls of protection on this country in a greater way and the economy of this country shall change rapidly, says the Lord of Hosts." "Listen to the Word of the Lord, God says, I will put at your helm for two terms a president that will pray, but he will not be a praying president when he starts." " I Will put him in office and them baptize him with the Holy Spirit and My Power, Says the Lord of Hosts."

Sound like trump? Here's more...


April 4, 2007
“This that shall take place shall be the most unusual thing, a transfiguration, a going into the marketplace, if you wish, into the news media, where Time Magazine will have no choice but to say what I want them to say.Newsweek, what I want them to say. The View, what I want them to say. Trump shall become a trumpet, says the Lord. Trump shall become a trumpet. I will raise up the Trump to become a trumpet, and Bill Gates to open up the gate of a financial realm for the church, says the Lord….

For God said, “I will not forget 9/11. I will not forget what took place that day, and I will not forget the gatekeeper that watched over New York, who will once again stand and watch over this nation,” says the Spirit of God. “It shall come to pass that the man that I shall place in the highest office shall go in whispering My name. But God said, when he enters into the office, he will be shouting out by the power of the Spirit. For I shall fill Him with My Spirit when he goes into office, and there will be a praying man in the highest seat in your land.

Remember, Donald Trump was not on the scene during this time, And he was not ready for the 2008 election. He was appointed for this time, he is for Israel and that alone is very telling.

Here's a video of Kim Clements prophesy 2007, ( This is not the only prophet that has spoken about the trumpet president)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfFtq1fljY
 

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Well, I'm not a politic fan. I don't watch TV... so ere go worldly knowledge, but considering fleurocarbons and the black hole...I vaguely remember this from many years ago...turned out there was one...mind you one...flurocarbon taken off the market and quickly replaced with a cheaper alternative....for fridgearator freon. Ok..I'm not spelling well either. Now, look at the Paris dilemma. America, albeit Trump backed out of it. Why? Do we not care about the environment? America does her part...90% of the world's problems are located OUTSIDE of the US...yet this paris deal suggested America have the greatest burden for the suggested plan. It's about money. Trump did well, very well here. He's shrewd...He's nervy and sometimes I cringe, but God put him there. I"m all for it! KInda makes me want to understand politics...kinda... Still learning -student
 
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and Trump is no conservative
Didn't say he was... he is still better than having a baby killer as POTUS.

Having someone other than a liberal in the big house just gives us a little more time to win a few more to the Lord before the poo hits the fan.




How about we learn to drink the cool-aid from the center?
How 'bout we drink the living water that Jesus provides?




Do we not care about the environment?
No, we don't cause... it matters not.

If all the industry in the entire world ceased right now permanently... it would not stop the world from getting warmer.

God said in Genesis that as long as the earth remains there shall be hot and cold, winter and summer... and so that's how it's gonna be.

So, don't worry... this age will be over soon and when Jesus Christ gets here to take over management of this planet, He will speak and the world will be normal cause... He's God and it's all gonna be alright.

At least for those that don't make an idol out of the earth and the environment cause... idolatry is one of the sins that sends people to go swimming in that lake of fire.
 
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MW2girl

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I don't mean to seem like the "peace maker flower child" here lol... but I voted for him but have come to realize that all I can do weither I agree or disgree with dicissions our president makes, whoever he is, we just need to stand together. This world is so scary. I just pray he makes the right decissions.
 
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MollyConnor

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I'm Mexican American, a woman, and a college student and I voted for Trump. Oh and my best friend is Muslim. I like him and I convinced all of my family (except grandma) to vote for him too. Sure, he's not perfect, but overall he's not as bad as the media makes him out to be.

 

RickyZ

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Trump picks Joseph Otting, the former head of One West Bank, who together with Mnuchin was a key player in the mortgage crisis that lead to the great recession, as a watchdog over wall street.

Once again Trump picks a fox to watch over the henhouse. Once again Trump picks an alligator to 'drain the swamp'.

And once again Trump gets a pass by his supporters.
 
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See, President Trump wasn't my first choice for a republican candidate, but he's obviously God's choice because he's in there ;D. As Psalm 146:3 would say, "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."
Were Hitler and Stalin also God's choices?
Therefore Trump cannot possibly be God's choice.
 

RickyZ

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Were Hitler and Stalin also God's choices?
Therefore Trump cannot possibly be God's choice.
The Bible does say that world rulers are placed by the will of God. I think there's a difference between actively placing them vs allowing them to be placed. And consider, we were told thousands of years ago where the world is headed. It's naive for us to think it will get there by being led by a succession of righteous leaders.
 
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The Bible does say that world rulers are placed by the will of God. I think there's a difference between actively placing them vs allowing them to be placed. And consider, we were told thousands of years ago where the world is headed. It's naive for us to think it will get there by being led by a succession of righteous leaders.
Can you explain the difference then because I dont see one.
 

RickyZ

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Can you explain the difference then because I dont see one.
It's the difference between causing something to happen and letting something happen.

I.E., did God actively place Trump in power, or did He stand back and let us place Trump in power?
 
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the difference between causing something to happen and letting something happen.

I.E., did God actively place Trump in power, or did He stand back and let us place Trump in power?
I sure would hate to blame God for allowing evil people to come into power. I think we have free will and God is letting it all play out. But He knows. He sees. And one day .... well ........
 
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Well, I'm from the UK, so I didn't have a say either way. However, between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, my choice is pretty clearly going to be Donald Trump. Of course, I want a man of God in office, and I pray for that, but between the options I went with the one who would slow the tide of baby genocide in the country, even if only slightly.
 

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I do not know the man personally so I can’t comment other than my secondary impressions. However I am happy to have pro life and pro marriage people in the higher parts like courts.
 
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You mean King Cyrus?, didn't vote the last time around but will make sure I drag my rear down to vote for him this time. He stands for Israel so I stand with him.