Jesus say: to be save you have to do good

So when you fail to walk as our Perfect Sinless LORD Jesus walked then what? Salvation does not come for you?

Because thats what you are saying here, your additive to the formula for salvation..

So you not agree with apostle Paul tha say stealing not go to heaven.

I agree, but he believe salvation by grace not by work make him think steal have no effect in salvation.

Paul is not referring to born again children of God. God does not do abortions. Are you born again?

If you agree with me, then it's irrelevant.

Technical views on doctrine don't make you steal... being a thief is what makes you steal.
I said this, and you agreed with it.

You already AGREED that various Christian views on doctrine don't make a person a thief.
So....
if you now go backward and try to say it DOES...
you're now contradicting your own self.



If you are a Christian, some particular view on some particular doctrinal point does not turn you into a thief.
You agreed with this.
So let's not keep contradicting ourselves.
Time to let this point go... you already agreed with me, and that agreement made your point invalid.


You already admitted your point was incorrect.

The proper thing to do now is accept that, and rethink your view.


You can still choose to disagree with the doctrine of "once saved always saved"...
but you'll need to disagree with it for a different reason.

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Paul is not referring to born again children of God. God does not do abortions. Are you born again?

I do not understand your point.

You think I believe if Christian steal not a thieft
No who ever steal is a thieft

Correct.

You are not understanding my point.


I think we may be misunderstanding each other because you are DEBATING in a language which is not your first language.

Maybe we're just having language problems.



God Bless.

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Why Paul say salvation by faith not by work

And the same Paul say

1 Corinthians 6:9

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,”

Paul definitively and in many places says salvation is by grace through faith.
1Cor6:9 is not showing how one is saved. It describes who will not inherent eternal life. Continue reading...
And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
(1Co 6:11)

I am not quite understand what you believe

So you believe 1 cor 6 is for non believer.

While 1 cor 6 is part of Paul,letter to Christian in Corinthians so tho whole letter is for believer in Corinthian

Jackson,may I beg your pardon! I am sorry there seems to be such a language barrier. I am not sure what you are asking nor seeking! I went back and read your opening,now you seem to be involved with the state of the sin of theft! ALL SIN separates from God,ALL UNREPENTANT SIN,will keep ppl OUT of heaven. If you are pointing at SOMEONE SPECIFIC AND JUDGING,then this is also wrong to God! None of us is good or free or righteous in our power, it is because of Him that we have an opportunity to enter into heaven at ALL!

First you tell me you don't know what I believe and then you go on to tell me what I believe.


Didn't you read this?...
And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1Co 6:11).

A Christian isn't a Christian in name only but he is a new creation, with God's nature, new desires and God working in him both to will and do His good pleasure. God has his ways of putting us back in line when we stray.

I don't understand why you are so hell bent (forgive the pun) on trying to turn the free gift of God into a system of works.

I am not tell what you believe, and ask a question.

You believe Christian being wash, what you believe as a result of being wash? Keep stealing or stop stealing?

And you mention salvation is a gift. Is that mean stealing is ok, because salvation not by work?

So you believe Paul say:

For non believer stealing not inherit the kingdom, for believer stealing inherit the kingdom? Am I correct?

If you were born again you wouldn't be asking these questions. You would know that a born again person wouldn't want to steal because his heart has been renewed and his desire is to do what pleases God.
You are approaching salvation from the wrong end...from the 'rule-keeper's' end.

So you believe born again Christian do not steal because his heart has been renew
Do you believe born again Christian not doing sin et all because his heart has been renew?

God is not pleased when anyone steals or does any sin. So even though salvation is not of works, we will still obey God. Not to earn salvation. But we are simply doing what pleases God because He has done so much for us.

Jackson I don't see why you would not understand that.

God gives us the power to live Godly lives, so we should live different from others. Not to earn salvation. But because he give us the power.

If someone say: I will steal because salvation not of works. I will steal and still go to heaven.

I would ask them this question: why would you willingly, on purpose do something that is not pleasing to God?

And I can bet you they will not have a good answer for me.

This topic is sometimes confusing for me as well. I pray God will make me fully understand it and be firm in what I believe. The responses I have seen on here have been beneficial. Thanks guys.