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Jackson123

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KJV1611 said:
I’m saying that if your a Christian then God does not consider a liar nor a fornicator even if you fornicate or lie which all of have and still do at least one of those.
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That I think you believe.

You believe stealing not inherit kingdom for non believer, but for believer, stealing, lie, murder inherit the kingdom only reduce the reward am I correct?

I let you aware for non believer not stealing or stealing, not inherit kingdom.
 
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NO SIN,NO SIN,NO SIN, SHALL INHERIT NOR CONTAMINATE HEAVEN. IT WILL NOT PASS THROUGH THE GATES!
 
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Jackson123 said:
That I think you believe.

You believe stealing not inherit kingdom for non believer, but for believer, stealing, lie, murder inherit the kingdom only reduce the reward am I correct?

I let you aware for non believer not stealing or stealing, not inherit kingdom.
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The Bible never says someone who steals or lies doesn’t go to heaven. It says liars and thieves don’t go to heaven. I’m a born again Christian, not a liar and thief even though I do lie and lust just like every other human being on this planet.
 
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Jackson123

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KJV1611 said:
The Bible never says someone who steals or lies doesn’t go to heaven. It says liars and thieves don’t go to heaven. I’m a born again Christian, not a liar and thief even though I do lie and lust just like every other human being on this planet.
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But the Bible say thief not go to heaven, stealer mean thief

What the different if I say thief not go to heaven or steal not go to heaven.

If we lie, than ask god forgiveness and we are forgiven. Yes we will fall in sin again and again, than repent and ask forgiveness again and again
 
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Jackson123 said:
But the Bible say thief not go to heaven, stealer mean thief

What the different if I say thief not go to heaven or steal not go to heaven.

If we lie, than ask god forgiveness and we are forgiven. Yes we will fall in sin again and again, than repent and ask forgiveness again and again
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I think you’re confusing liar as a name and liar as a position.

Believers lie and can be called liars but positionally they are sons of God and not liars.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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But you believe after come to Christ, stealing is inherit the kingdom, only reduce the reward don't you?
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I believe after you come to christ you still can’t keep the law.. And you should stop worrying about thiefs and worry about your own sin.
 
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Leastamongmany said:
NO SIN,NO SIN,NO SIN, SHALL INHERIT NOR CONTAMINATE HEAVEN. IT WILL NOT PASS THROUGH THE GATES!
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Yep

Thats why christ died

Other wise no one would pass through those gates. And I mean no one.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I believe after you come to christ you still can’t keep the law.. And you should stop worrying about thiefs and worry about your own sin.
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Thief not go to heaven is in the Bible, why should I worry or pay attention to the Bible teaching
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Jackson123 said:
Thief not go to heaven is in the Bible, why should I worry or pay attention to the Bible teaching
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You worry about people sins to much

Learn to love them and give them what can save them. And your own sin and you will do well
 
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Jackson123

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eternally-gratefull said:
You worry about people sins to much

Learn to love them and give them what can save them. And your own sin and you will do well
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I am no worry about people sin, I am worry about bible teaching that say thief not go to heaven while most people say thief only reduce reward but still go to heaven, why people not believe Bible?
 
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Jackson123 said:
I am no worry about people sin, I am worry about bible teaching that say thief not go to heaven while most people say thief only reduce reward but still go to heaven, why people not believe Bible?
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Wasn’t the criminal on the cross next to Jesus a convicted thief?
 
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Jackson123 said:
I am no worry about people sin, I am worry about bible teaching that say thief not go to heaven while most people say thief only reduce reward but still go to heaven, why people not believe Bible?
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Where Bible say thief no go Heaven? Write exact word that say he no go heaven. Me wait patiently.
 
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Jackson123 said:
I am no worry about people sin, I am worry about bible teaching that say thief not go to heaven while most people say thief only reduce reward but still go to heaven, why people not believe Bible?
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You are too worried about peoples sin.

Thejbi le says gods children are not longer thiefs.. but they can still steal.

The bible also says no sinner can get to heaven, so if thiefs cant you cant.,
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
You are too worried about peoples sin.

Thejbi le says gods children are not longer thiefs.. but they can still steal.

The bible also says no sinner can get to heaven, so if thiefs cant you cant.,
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Thank God! A brother who understands.
 
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Jackson123

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Sipsey said:
Wasn’t the criminal on the cross next to Jesus a convicted thief?
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But he repent, other criminal not and not go to heaven.

Anyway not me that say thief not inherit kingdom but 1 cor6:9-10 and I believe it. I do not know about you, you may not believe the Bible, but I do
 
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Jackson123

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Smooth said:
Where Bible say thief no go Heaven? Write exact word that say he no go heaven. Me wait patiently.
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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But he repent, other criminal not and not go to heaven.

Anyway not me that say thief not inherit kingdom but 1 cor6:9-10 and I believe it. I do not know about you, you may not believe the Bible, but I do
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He was still a thief
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
You worry about people sins to much

Learn to love them and give them what can save them. And your own sin and you will do well
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I am fairly confident (like 100%) that the guy being crucified next to Christ was a thief and murderer and Jesus took him to paradise.......
 
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