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I never read any of that here over the last few days. Everything I am posting now I am only posting in love and as a help. We should treat others the way we wish others to treat us brother. Calling people names is not the way to make friends and reach others even if we think they may or may not be in error. Who knows maybe you misunderstood what the other guy was trying to say. I do not know but they should answer for themselves.
It is in another thread....ad HE came over here peddling and arguing....and then OTHERS jumped on board....SEE....YOU rip me, red x me, and fail to even understand the whole argument.....I misunderstood nothing.....I can read just fine and understand ENGLISH just fine MATE....

really before you jump on the band wagon you need to understand that many of US have been here almost 6 years dealing with people coming in here, starting it up and they end up getting banned....I have NEVER called anyone satanic....WHAT THEY peddle I have called satanic, and or if they REJECT obvious truth reference WHO they are following....JUST like JESUS did with PETER....HE said GET thee behind me SATAN...WHY...because what PETER was saying was NOT of GOD......

The particular person in disagreement HAS been targeting me from DAY ONE because WE disagree on the certainty of SALVATION.....and then rakes me over the coals for firing back in like manner......

I have tried to engage in a decent manner and every time I take her off ignore and engage decently the NEXT DAY she starts mouthing again.....

ANYWAY.........she can laugh, mouth, red x and go her merry way.....I am done addressing her!
 

calibob

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Bible doesn't say "nothing". It also doens't list "numerous things". It gives only one thing. Therefore, please do not exaggerate the situation.

Ourselves:

Rom_8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

It is our own selves in our choosing to sin that brings the separation:

Isa_59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

The list you gave to 'prove' OSAS, is easily demonstrated to be in error, and misused, even one at a time. Would you be wiling to look at each individual claim in their proper contexts?
You misunderstood the context of his statements and Jesus is the bridge that reconnects us to the almighty.
 

Smooth

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I truly am so thankful for the ignore option on here for I no longer read negative remarks or questions pointed at me!😁 I am at peace in my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,I rest in my Fathers arms,and I walk in the leadership of the Spirit! I am blessed in the joy of the Holy Ghost indwelling as at Pentecost!
You’re so much at peace in Christ that you feel the need to put people on ignore so as not to be challenged regarding your heretical views. Why am I even posting this? You have me on ignore. 😆
 

calibob

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You misunderstood the context of his statements and Jesus is the bridge that reconnects us to the almighty.
The word of God is made flesh in Jesus. The Levites are no longer in charge. The Lion of Judah is. The curse of the law has been lifted. Thank you Jesus.
 

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It is in another thread....ad HE came over here peddling and arguing....and then OTHERS jumped on board....SEE....YOU rip me, red x me, and fail to even understand the whole argument.....I misunderstood nothing.....I can read just fine and understand ENGLISH just fine MATE....

really before you jump on the band wagon you need to understand that many of US have been here almost 6 years dealing with people coming in here, starting it up and they end up getting banned....I have NEVER called anyone satanic....WHAT THEY peddle I have called satanic, and or if they REJECT obvious truth reference WHO they are following....JUST like JESUS did with PETER....HE said GET thee behind me SATAN...WHY...because what PETER was saying was NOT of GOD......

The particular person in disagreement HAS been targeting me from DAY ONE because WE disagree on the certainty of SALVATION.....and then rakes me over the coals for firing back in like manner......

I have tried to engage in a decent manner and every time I take her off ignore and engage decently the NEXT DAY she starts mouthing again.....

ANYWAY.........she can laugh, mouth, red x and go her merry way.....I am done addressing her![/QUOT


WHOOOOOOOOPEEEEEE,finally! Your arrogance is immeasurable and if lies are spoken here,they didn't come from me! You could probably TWIST yourself out of the bullets in an hundred man firing squad!😂😂😂😂😂
 
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The word of God is made flesh in Jesus. The Levites are no longer in charge. The Lion of Judah is. The curse of the law has been lifted. Thank you Jesus.
AMEN brother....and the hope of the bible is a confident expectation of something guaranteed.....NOT the lottery type hope peddled by religion.....
 
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Holy Smokes! You actually received a thumbs down. I’m flabbergasted, and I’m not joking around!
YEP......I can make a honest, valid, truthful post and the hate seethes by those claiming love......can you believe it....I can say it is ALL JESUS or fraudulent and get a negative remark by those claiming to be believers.....go figure
 

Smooth

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What are you talking about?
Who did I pretend is Jesus?

Also what bullying are you talking about?



noun
  1. 1.
    a person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable.
verb
  1. 1.
    seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce (someone perceived as vulnerable).
If you’re a bully, then I must say you’re actually the nicest, most heartwarming bully I’ve ever seen.
 
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If you’re a bully, then I must say you’re actually the nicest, most heartwarming bully I’ve ever seen.
I wonder what the Pharisees said about JESUS when he used a whip.....or what the people thought when Samuel hewed AGAG into pieces with a sword......
 
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I think its wise not to run ya mouth with no Jordans on.......... especially at a teacher/elder at a local new testament church!
 

Smooth

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Bible doesn't say "nothing". It also doens't list "numerous things". It gives only one thing. Therefore, please do not exaggerate the situation.

Ourselves:

Rom_8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

It is our own selves in our choosing to sin that brings the separation:

Isa_59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

The list you gave to 'prove' OSAS, is easily demonstrated to be in error, and misused, even one at a time. Would you be wiling to look at each individual claim in their proper contexts?
Try living on this side of the Cross and Resurrection. It’s beautiful. I promise.
 

Smooth

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I was thinking the same thing when I saw that.... how can anyone view this as wrong???
It hurt me to see that. Air literally left my lungs when seeing that thumbs down. By the grace of God, beloved. By the grace of God.
 
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Try living on this side of the Cross and Resurrection. It’s beautiful. I promise.
AMEN......same one that said JESUS did not enter the holiest in heaven and or have blood to offer on the mercy seat in heaven......also believe salvation can be lost and cited two sources that do not even pertain to salvation.......

I cannot believe how many devalue JESUS, his work, his power, his promises, his blood, his sacrifice while saying they MUST help JESUS maintain their salvation....it is absurd....
 

Smooth

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AMEN......same one that said JESUS did not enter the holiest in heaven and or have blood to offer on the mercy seat in heaven......also believe salvation can be lost and cited two sources that do not even pertain to salvation.......

I cannot believe how many devalue JESUS, his work, his power, his promises, his blood, his sacrifice while saying they MUST help JESUS maintain their salvation....it is absurd....
Is that cat muslim?
(Not you, UnderGrace) 😆
 
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It hurt me to see that. Air literally left my lungs when seeing that thumbs down. By the grace of God, beloved. By the grace of God.
Indeed.

When I read the posts by people who support conditional salvation, it is always some aspect of self over Jesus..... thus self over Grace.
 

Smooth

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Indeed.

When I read the posts by people who support conditional salvation, it is always some aspect of self over Jesus..... thus self over Grace.
IMO it is based on fear and distrust. Some folks simply fail to grasp the fact that God is all-loving and completely trust worthy.