Who is voting for Trump again?

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kaylagrl

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Kayla, I totally respect your opinion on the matter.

But I don’t think the current administration is fully aware of the strategic policies of foreign, and hostile, governments.

We don’t need to upset our allies. None of them. We are not a country that doesn’t need any help from our allies. We are more dependent on them than the current administration apparently realizes.

Thanks, I respect you too! :) I can flat out disagree with a person and still like them and respect them. Honest question though, do you think Biden has any better clue on these issues? Because Dems have chosen him to be "the one" this time round.
 

Dude653

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I think Trump's Behavior lately is indicative that he is becoming more and more mentally unhinged
 

Ohm

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Oh look, another area President Trump is having massive, REAL WORLD positive results for Christians. But heck He likes Israel, so who cares about that stuff. He has to go for that crime:

Stras, David Ryan
Born 1974 in Wichita, KS

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit
NOMINATED BY DONALD J. TRUMP on January 8, 2018, to a seat vacated by Diana E. Murphy. Confirmed by the Senate on January 30, 2018, and received commission on January 31, 2018.

Federal Court: Christian Videographers Cannot Be Compelled to Work Same-Sex Wedding
by Jerry Lambe | 2:31 pm, August 23rd, 2019
The United States Court of Appeals for the Eight Circuit on Friday ruled that Minnesota may not compel videographers to produce wedding videos for same-sex weddings, as it would infringe on their First Amendment rights to free speech.

In a 2-1 decision penned by Circuit Court Judge David Ryan Stras, the court wrote that wedding videos “are a form of speech that is entitled to First Amendment protection. The Supreme Court long ago recognized that ‘expression by means of motion pictures is included within the free speech and free press guaranty of the First and Fourteenth Amendments.’”



Now how about putting disdain for Israel and the Jews aside, and realize that helping to elect a Democrat, by abstaining, or 3rd party nonsense is ignorant, selfish and giving aid and comfort to the enemies of Christ.
Israel is irrelevant to my view on him.
 

Ohm

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Abortion, gay marriage, socialism, Israel, all those opinions are not my own, they come from the Bible. And therefore I vote accordingly.
Except for the fact that they come from you.
 

Ohm

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Ohm said:
.. is a multi time bankrupt huckster.

.. grabs women by their genitals.

Let's open all the books. Let's see all the tax payers money that has gone to cover the sins of all the politicians, both sides. The same with whatever country you're in. He was set up, having a private conversation. Is it right? No. But does it happen in most conversations with men and women, you bet ya.


.. eats well-done steak with ketchup

Is an issue because.....


.. denies climate change

ITA, climate is a scam and a tax grab. No one is allowed to disagree, that's not science, that's a religion. Data is being forced to fit the narrative.



.. has many affairs

So did Bill Clinton and Kennedy and probably others we don't even know about. When Clinton did it people said what he did in his personal life was his business and had no bearing on his running the country. So what's good for the goose...

.. doesnt like releasing his tax returns

No law saying he has to. No ones business. If he did he'd be ripped apart by MSM.


.. treats his wife and daughter like chattel

Well that's your opinion, you're entitled to it.

.. has horrible hair

Possibly the worse offense of all....

.. is a creep

Was duly elected by the American people. So all you mentioned above doesn't matter. They put him in office. Whether they do again remains to be seen. It rests on whether this country wants socialism/communism or love their freedoms.

Your president suits you.

Thanks for confirming for me that Trump supporters lack insight.
 

Ohm

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He did say he was the Chosen One......for what I'm not sure.
I know that in the US, there is a very deep cultural divide between the two parties who, let's be honest, are the only two parties who ever get elected. Republicans and Democrats, though, from the outside, do more harm than good. For a start, many people will vote for Trump (a distinctly unloving, uncaring, uncharitable, dishonest, discourteous man, because they don't want to vote for "the Democrat" (who, to be fair to them, was Killary Clinton, this time around).

I just find American politics so polarized. SO many people will vote for a Republican, just because "not voting Dem".

Here's an idea: back an independent!
 
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Susanna

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Thanks, I respect you too! :) I can flat out disagree with a person and still like them and respect them. Honest question though, do you think Biden has any better clue on these issues? Because Dems have chosen him to be "the one" this time round.
I think both Trump and Biden are anachronisms.

Maybe even the Democrats and the Republicans are anachronisms.
 

PennEd

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Israel is irrelevant to my view on him.

Who cares what your view is. Amazing how many NON American citizens feel the need to butt into our elections!

And just because we are a superpower, that affects many global issues, doesn't give you a voice either.
 
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Susanna

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I just find American politics so polarized. SO many people will vote for a Republican, just because "not voting Dem".

Here's an idea: back an independent!
It is polarized.

I think that’s what we get for putting up a system where two parties are dominating like the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

Truth is, though, as a consequence of this, extremists on both sides are allowed to be running the show.
 

PennEd

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I’m an American veteran.

I was an accomplice in defending this country and our beliefs.

We do not stand for living in fear and rejecting our neighbors.

We are the land of the free, not the land of an oppressive government which is now showing its ugly face.

The current administration is the most pro federal government I’ve ever seen.
Please explain EXACTLY how the Trump administration has been oppressive to the American people.

You claimed it now prove it. And please, no generalities. Name ONE THING!
 

PennEd

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Put NO on the ballots? I'm all in. Double down. If I lose we all lose. Choosing between the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.

Bob, Bob, Bob..... EVERY time you have EVER pulled a lever you have chosen between the lesser of 2 evils!

UNTIL Christ returns, the god of this world is behind world powers. We know that, but we still live in this world, AND WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD FOR EVEN OUR VOTE.

Please stop bringing up irrelevant beefs you have with the GOP from half a century ago or more.

Now let's do the math here. I suck at math, but this is easy math.

Trump has literally saved untold lives through his policies on abortion, and changing the environment to embolden states to enact laws that restrict murdering baby humans.

So if every Christian had stayed home, or voted 3rd party, in 2016, enabling Hillary Rodham Clinton to win, how many baby's bodies, THAT ARE ALIVE TODAY, would have been dismembered and used for experimentation or thrown away?

Is not JUST THAT, THE LIFE OF INNOCENT CHILDREN, enough to hold your nose and vote for him? It is NOT an exaggeration to say, that abstaining, or voting 3rd party, which ABSOLUTELY ensures a Democrat victory, results in CHILDREN DYING!

You cannot rationalize your way out of that. The Democrats WILL reverse all the bans Trump enacted, AND make it even easier to murder babies.

NONE OF YOU CHRISTIANS CAN RATIONALIZE YOUR WAY OUT OF THOSE FACTS! You are deceiving yourself, EVERY ONE of you by thinking you are soooo righteous by abstaining or voting 3rd party.

Now go back, and see THE REAL WORLD RESULTS OF TRUMP'S JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS in my last post as it relates to homosexuals forcing Christians to be a part of their sin.
 
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kaylagrl

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I think Trump's Behavior lately is indicative that he is becoming more and more mentally unhinged
Hey,you're the one claiming "we're all a little Negan" ;)
 
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Susanna

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Bob, Bob, Bob..... EVERY time you have EVER pulled a lever you have chosen between the lesser of 2 evils!

UNTIL Christ returns, the god of this world is behind world powers. We know that, but we still live in this world, AND WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD FOR EVEN OUR VOTE.

Please stop bringing up irrelevant beefs you have with the GOP from half a century ago or more.

Now let's do the math here. I suck at math, but this is easy math.

Trump has literally saved untold lives through his policies on abortion, and changing the environment to embolden states to enact laws that restrict murdering baby humans.

So if every Christian had stayed home, or voted 3rd party, in 2016, enabling Hillary Rodham Clinton to win, how many baby's bodies, THAT ARE ALIVE TODAY, would have been dismembered and used for experimentation or thrown away?

Is not JUST THAT, THE LIFE OF INNOCENT CHILDREN, enough to hold your nose and vote for him? It is NOT an exaggeration to say, that abstaining, or voting 3rd party, which ABSOLUTELY ensures a Democrat victory, results in CHILDREN DYING!

You cannot rationalize your way out of that. The Democrats WILL reverse all the bans Trump enacted, AND make it even easier to murder babies.

NONE OF YOU CHRISTIANS CAN RATIONALIZE YOUR WAY OUT OF THOSE FACTS! You are deceiving yourself, EVERY ONE of you by thinking you are soooo righteous by abstaining or voting 3rd party.

Now go back, and see THE REAL WORLD RESULTS OF TRUMP'S JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS in my last post as it relates to homosexuals forcing Christians to be a part of their sin.
Your debating technique is getting a bit, shall we say, difficult to respond to.

The excessive amount of capital letters makes it look like you’re screaming.

Surely you don’t need to if your candidate is worth his salt.

Secondly, I’m not here to bash Trump, I’m just not gonna vote for him. I don’t need to prove anything.
 
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kaylagrl

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Except for the fact that they come from you.

They come from me because I believe what the Bible says on those subjects.Bible came first,my worldview is based on that, same as yours is based on secularism.
 
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kaylagrl

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Except for the fact that they come from you.
Abortion is less a Biblical issue for me, it's more about science. Israel is based on history and also the Bible.
 

PennEd

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Your debating technique is getting a bit, shall we say, difficult to respond to.

The excessive amount of capital letters makes it look like you’re screaming.

Surely you don’t need to if your candidate is worth his salt.

Secondly, I’m not here to bash Trump, I’m just not gonna vote for him. I don’t need to prove anything.
Then you made a FALSE claim about him.

YOU claimed that he was oppressing the American people, yet couldn't come up with ONE instance where he has.

In legal terms, that's called slander. OBVIOUSLY, you are free to vote however you like. Never was an issue.

But understand, YOU, SUSANNA, by abstaining or voting 3rd party results in more children dying. Globally, and here at home.