Who is voting for Trump again?

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17Bees

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I'll admit my political opinions are heavily swayed by 3 end times conspiracy theories.
1) There will be a resurrection of the Roman empire under the guise of the EU and the Vatican Bank and Freemasons will pool resources. The leader of the EU will become the Antichrist and The Pope will become possessed by the Devil and thus become the beast.

2) An unholy cabal of Satanic Jewish mystics and bankers will take over Jerusalem and the Beast will ascend to the throne. And that the USA being in debt to them will become their 'ad hoc' servants and a President will become the Antichrist.

3) After the United States is destroyed and only a remnant of Christian Jews remain in Israel. The eastern former Communists will go to war against OPEC supposing the war is about oil but it's really a false flag so the Devil can destroy all oppositions until the Lord returns to finish them all off. There will be no Christians left alive by then except the remnant that flees.

So which side is right. I only follow the Lord. Let the watchtowers fall as they may. All nations will be destroyed when the Lord returns.The end, of the beginning that is.

Actually, I'm kinda on the same wavelength as #1. There will be a resurrection of Roman Empire (Babylon) and it will be under the guise of the European Union. But disagree that the Vatican Bank or Freemasons will have much to do with anything. I think muslim flight from the middle east will continue. Some will be refugee but most will be economically related. The EU birth rate will continue to decline and introduce a need for workers, most of these coming from Africa and the Middle East. EU countries will continue exit the union - the poorest countries consequently being some of the last. As the muslim population rises, more and more "sectional" neighborhoods, jurisdictions, and even states will continue to form with various forms of koran based law until the old "EU" land mass will shrink to roughly the size of the RE or those large areas surrounding the Mediterranean Sea, the Persian Gulf, Black Sea, Agean and Tigris and Eupharates River ports and Suez. The lone star in all this will be that of David - Israel will stand alone.

Who's the Beast? I think the Beast is us. Complacency. Short sightedness. Lack of fealty.
 
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Post Civil War southern states used (among other things) literacy tests as a requirement for voting in order to disenfranchise black voters.

Ahh, never considered that. Well of course literacy tests aren't part of being a citizen, but there still is a test.
 

Oncefallen

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Ahh, never considered that. Well of course literacy tests aren't part of being a citizen, but there still is a test.
As part of the Naturalization process an applicant must demonstrate the ability to read, write, and speak English (literacy) and basic US Civics. Of course they don't (that I'm aware of) give a separate English test, but the Civics test (and Naturalization interview) is administered in English so you could say the literacy test is incognito.

What I find to be sad is that a large number of adults (natural born citizens) in the US would never be able to pass the Civics test.
 

calibob

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Actually, I'm kinda on the same wavelength as #1. There will be a resurrection of Roman Empire (Babylon) and it will be under the guise of the European Union. But disagree that the Vatican Bank or Freemasons will have much to do with anything. I think muslim flight from the middle east will continue. Some will be refugee but most will be economically related. The EU birth rate will continue to decline and introduce a need for workers, most of these coming from Africa and the Middle East. EU countries will continue exit the union - the poorest countries consequently being some of the last. As the muslim population rises, more and more "sectional" neighborhoods, jurisdictions, and even states will continue to form with various forms of koran based law until the old "EU" land mass will shrink to roughly the size of the RE or those large areas surrounding the Mediterranean Sea, the Persian Gulf, Black Sea, Agean and Tigris and Eupharates River ports and Suez. The lone star in all this will be that of David - Israel will stand alone.

Who's the Beast? I think the Beast is us. Complacency. Short sightedness. Lack of fealty.
Well the attempt for a 1 world government will be a failure as there will be different armies at the Battle of Armageddon. And the decedents of Ishmael will never settle for a lasting peace with those of Isaac.

How do they replace money with the mark of the beast without collusion with some International banking monopoly?
 

calibob

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How do they replace money with the mark of the beast without collusion with some International banking monopoly?
The Vatican and the Freemasons have the most gold. OPEC has the most oil, the world bank has our IOU's and we have the most nuclear weapons. The point is there is evil on all sides of the equation. Except the Lords. If I have the right to object to war why am I wrong to object to politics? It dosn't make me a socialist any more than being a Quaker or Mennonite does. Does not voting for a democrat make any one a Klansman or a fascist?
 

17Bees

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Well the attempt for a 1 world government will be a failure as there will be different armies at the Battle of Armageddon. And the decedents of Ishmael will never settle for a lasting peace with those of Isaac.

How do they replace money with the mark of the beast without collusion with some International banking monopoly?
What banking monopoly? Commercial bank of China? Bank of America? Middle East Bank? It's so diverse world wide, there's nobody. I don't think it's ever been about the money. It's about the sign - the moon that consumes the star. You're right. Ishmael hates the thought of peace with Isaac.
 

calibob

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What banking monopoly? Commercial bank of China? Bank of America? Middle East Bank? It's so diverse world wide, there's nobody. I don't think it's ever been about the money. It's about the sign - the moon that consumes the star. You're right. Ishmael hates the thought of peace with Isaac.
Monopoly was a typo. I should have read Monopolies Well there's more than one. Let's start with the Federal Reserve Bank (which is corporately owned and not by our government.) and illegitimate son the World Bank. As they go through through the who's wo remember that Rothchild also runs the bank of England and the US Federal Reserve Bank with Goldman Sachs. Remember Steve Bannon and Steve Minuchin?

 

17Bees

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Monopoly was a typo. I should have read Monopolies Well there's more than one. Let's start with the Federal Reserve Bank (which is corporately owned and not by our government.) and illegitimate son the World Bank. As they go through through the who's wo remember that Rothchild also runs the bank of England and the US Federal Reserve Bank with Goldman Sachs. Remember Steve Bannon and Steve Minuchin?

Ha! But don't leave out Robert Rubin and Henry Paulson right after the bail out. All in all I think you're thinking too current. No one knows the time, of course, but I've always thought the conflict divine has been with the hatred of Ishmael - the enmity of the snake. It is ancient. You, yourself spoke of the rebellion of the poor and I agree. You, yourself have pointed out the atrocity of the dollar control on us all. But you speak very little of what the rebellion will conclude.[/QUOTE]
 

calibob

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Ha! But don't leave out Robert Rubin and Henry Paulson right after the bail out. All in all I think you're thinking too current. No one knows the time, of course, but I've always thought the conflict divine has been with the hatred of Ishmael - the enmity of the snake. It is ancient. You, yourself spoke of the rebellion of the poor and I agree. You, yourself have pointed out the atrocity of the dollar control on us all. But you speak very little of what the rebellion will conclude.
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Well I choose to concentrate on, the time is at hand to carry the message and reach out to sinners. Worrying about the inevitable, unchangeable future predicted in the Bible, seems like a waste of time to me. What I posted is an explanation why I do not take political sides any more and don't trust the free enterprise system or the banks any more.

I will not chose either side because I firmly believe the both are corrupt and Lucifer is the puppet master. Otherwise I would have posted to the conspiracy forum. Which I have several times. The question is who's voting for Trump again. I've accused of being and/ or likened to being league with the socialists because I don't support the republican agenda or Trump. Besides I could go on for hours and the majority of the brainwashed worshipers of Trump the banks the flag and the economy most likely won't put the Bible or the Lord first. Faith in Jesus is more important than any other part of life and belief in front of, beside or behind him is idolatry. This is a Christian site and although I'm guilty also, politics seem like an abomination to me.
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As part of the Naturalization process an applicant must demonstrate the ability to read, write, and speak English (literacy) and basic US Civics. Of course they don't (that I'm aware of) give a separate English test, but the Civics test (and Naturalization interview) is administered in English so you could say the literacy test is incognito.

What I find to be sad is that a large number of adults (natural born citizens) in the US would never be able to pass the Civics test.
More than a little ironic when you consider that public education no longer teaches these basic ideas as part of the general education of the children.

Ever ask just what we are spending so much money on in the public school system.

For the cause of Christ
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kaylagrl

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As part of the Naturalization process an applicant must demonstrate the ability to read, write, and speak English (literacy) and basic US Civics. Of course they don't (that I'm aware of) give a separate English test, but the Civics test (and Naturalization interview) is administered in English so you could say the literacy test is incognito.

What I find to be sad is that a large number of adults (natural born citizens) in the US would never be able to pass the Civics test.

Greencard for me but my sister became a citizen. She went through the entire thing and studied for it. But she said they didn't ask very many questions. Perhaps because we're Canucks they figured we had the rest nailed down.lol
 
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I really have a hard time wrapping my head around some of you that are saying both sides are evil. As a Christian I don't know how anyone could support the Dem party that has gone so radically left toward communism.

Bernie Sanders completely supports communism, saying Cuba is the way to run the country here and Che was a good man.

Elizabeth Warren also backs socialist programs and lied about her Indian heritage to further her career.

Biden doesn't seem to know what he believes and says he's further left than the rest of them,when he was supposed to be the "moderate". On his third run for office he claims to have all the answers he never had all these years in office.

Pete Buttigeg is a failure in the office he's in. Says he's a Christian and supports gay marriage and is in fact gay with a partner himself. He's mocks Christians and twists the Bible to condone what he is doing.

ALL the candidates support free healthcare for illegals. All support the green new deal that will bankrupt the country and is nothing more than a tax grab. Most are against ICE and borders though they can be found on video saying the opposite. Most don't back the police. ALL support abortion at any stage of pregnancy and now infanticide is being called into question as the Gov. let slip. If you support abortion you're a racist, pure and simple. It is beyond me why any Christian would either support or allow these people to get into office. To not vote is the same thing as voting for the other person. Voting is a duty and a right that people around the world would literally die to have. The apathy among Americans for the freedoms they have astounds me, and it saddens me. Perhaps losing it all would make you appreciate what you had. smh So sad. I pray the Lord will move upon hearts in this election and the right choice will be made.
 
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Susanna

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I really have a hard time wrapping my head around some of you that are saying both sides are evil. As a Christian I don't know how anyone could support the Dem party that has gone so radically left toward communism.

Bernie Sanders completely supports communism, saying Cuba is the way to run the country here and Che was a good man.

Elizabeth Warren also backs socialist programs and lied about her Indian heritage to further her career.

Biden doesn't seem to know what he believes and says he's further left than the rest of them,when he was supposed to be the "moderate". On his third run for office he claims to have all the answers he never had all these years in office.

Pete Buttigeg is a failure in the office he's in. Says he's a Christian and supports gay marriage and is in fact gay with a partner himself. He's mocks Christians and twists the Bible to condone what he is doing.

ALL the candidates support free healthcare for illegals. All support the green new deal that will bankrupt the country and is nothing more than a tax grab. Most are against ICE and borders though they can be found on video saying the opposite. Most don't back the police. ALL support abortion at any stage of pregnancy and now infanticide is being called into question as the Gov. let slip. If you support abortion you're a racist, pure and simple. It is beyond me why any Christian would either support or allow these people to get into office. To not vote is the same thing as voting for the other person. Voting is a duty and a right that people around the world would literally die to have. The apathy among Americans for the freedoms they have astounds me, and it saddens me. Perhaps losing it all would make you appreciate what you had. smh So sad. I pray the Lord will move upon hearts in this election and the right choice will be made.
Both sides are under par but that doesn’t mean I’d support the Democrats, nor the Republicans.

If the Republicans finds a decent candidate I’ll vote for them.

I will not vote for a president that isn’t taking his strategic responsibility seriously. No way!
 
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Both sides are under par but that doesn’t mean I’d support the Democrats, nor the Republicans.

If the Republicans finds a decent candidate I’ll vote for them.

I will not vote for a president that isn’t taking his strategic responsibility seriously. No way!

well that's an objection no one is actually going to hear or benefit from

I would take your vote if you could give it to me

these are not times to say 'so there'
 
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Susanna

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well that's an objection no one is actually going to hear or benefit from

I would take your vote if you could give it to me

these are not times to say 'so there'
Too bad.

I believe that a president who firmly and without a shadow of doubt states that he, under no circumstances, will let foreign, hostile powers gain momentum on our expense, is the president we need.

I haven’t seen that coming from him yet.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Too bad.

I believe that a president who firmly and without a shadow of doubt states that he, under no circumstances, will let foreign, hostile powers gain momentum on our expense, is the president we need.

I haven’t seen that coming from him yet.

it is too bad

it is too bad for you personally that you take such a position and too bad for the country if we mulitply that sentiment

what exactly would you like to see Trump do in order to fufill your expectations?

seems to me he has done more in the area in which you find him lacking, than anyone before him...after WWII
 
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Susanna

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it is too bad

it is too bad for you personally that you take such a position and too bad for the country if we mulitply that sentiment

what exactly would you like to see Trump do in order to fufill your expectations?

seems to me he has done more in the area in which you find him lacking, than anyone before him...after WWII
I’m very disappointed in the position you’re advocating.

Very disappointed.

Old Ike wasn’t perfect, but the doctrine he initiated was a stroke of genius.

Never alienate your allies. Never let there be doubt about our position. Never invite the enemy to your country.

I’m sorry, but to me any other position borders treason.

You’re not American so what I just said don’t apply to you.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I’m very disappointed in the position you’re advocating.

Very disappointed.

Old Ike wasn’t perfect, but the doctrine he initiated was a stroke of genius.

Never alienate your allies. Never let there be doubt about our position. Never invite the enemy to your country.

I’m sorry, but to me any other position borders treason.

You’re not American so what I just said don’t apply to you.

well, to quote you

that's too bad

I've noticed Americans...not all of course, seem to long for the past and prefer the ghosts of President's past

sorry, but the present is all you have

dropping the exchange now because there is really nowhere to take it
 
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kaylagrl

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Both sides are under par but that doesn’t mean I’d support the Democrats, nor the Republicans.

If the Republicans finds a decent candidate I’ll vote for them.

I will not vote for a president that isn’t taking his strategic responsibility seriously. No way!
So a communist country is the way to go? Because that is exactly where we are headed. Biden is behind and the commies are gaining. I hope you'll this some more serious thought before the next election. I do live here and I don't fancy living under a communist gov't.