Why do so many Christians end up in Hell?

If Christians desire the truth of God, they cannot simply focus on one verse and ignore everything else which has an impact on Gospel Truth. Furthermore, we are to take what is plain and clear and unmistakable, and then interpret that which may be puzzling.

So let's start with something which is straightforward:

ETERNAL LIFE IS GOD'S GIFT THROUGH CHRIST
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Rom 6:23)

So the question arises : Is God in the habit of giving gifts to men and then snatching them away? The answer is obvious. And do you personally do that habitually? That answer too is obvious. You do not give someone a birthday gift, and when you are leaving the party, grab it and walk away with it.

Jesus said unto her [Martha], I am the Resurrection, and the Life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? (John 11:25,26)

Is there even a hint in this passage, that eternal life is "iffy" or that Christ can reverse what He has just said? The answer is obvious. And salvation (eternal life) is "Christ in you the hope of glory".

THOSE WHO ARE JUSTIFIED OR SAVED BY GRACE RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE
That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. (Titus 3:7)

If that is not perfectly clear we have this passage:
That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:7-9)

So what does this last passage teach:
1 "In the ages to come" = IN ETERNITY
2. "For by grace are ye saved through faith" = SALVATION IS ETERNAL LIFE GIVEN BY GOD'S GRACE
3. "And that not of yourselves" = SALVATION IS TOTALLY OF THE LORD
4. "It is the gift of God" = ONCE GIVEN IT IS NOT TAKEN BACK.

There are literally dozens of passages in the Bible which clearly teach that no one who has received the gift of eternal life can ever lose it. Now it is your solemn duty and obligation to find those Scriptures and BELIEVE THEM. And also avoid misleading others about this extremely important matter.

I might be not understanding a few things in the gospel but I see that you just want to imagine that everyone is going to heaven as this is the most outrageous lies of the devil and it is done subtlety so Christian won't do research about this matter. This is enough for the devil to drag most of us down when we die. Big and terrifying surprises are waiting for them when they realise that they are not in heaven. Huuuhhh! Open your eyes and start walking - asking the Lord to show you the truth about Christians going to hell in huge numbers.

It is a gift which is dependent upon faith, from first to last and not just period.

In order to receive the gift we must believe. Though Jesus died for the sins of the world, it requires faith in order for salvation to be applied.

And that response is not just a one time confession of faith, but is on-going.

"My brothers, if anyone among you might wander from the truth, and someone should bring him back, let him know that the one having brought back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death, and will cover over a multitude of sins.

Please explain to me what your thoughts are on this one particular issue. Because as believers in Christ, we cannot turn back and willfully live according to the sinful nature and still be saved, not until we repent and return to faith.

Its one of those doctrines that must be revisited. It exposes the idea of men as a lie that men suffer after they are dead. (false gospel)

Hell is a living suffering that a corrupted creation experiences in dying you will be dead. . The wrath of God revealed from heaven .

How it became a work men can perform after their temporal spirit returns to the father who gave it temporally as a violation to the letter of the law and body returns to the lifeless spiritless dust .

I think it was a idea that God would scare the heel out believer as a source of faith rather than give them the faith (his) to make it possible to please Him . Can't go to hell if a paerson is already thier sufering the wage of sin. God forgives sin.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Christian can get relif is they cry out to one that can hear them . No salvation Sabbath rest for the wicked the restless wanderers

2 Samuel 22:6 The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;

Hell by reason of my affliction and the father heard my voice by reason of his mercy and salvation.

Two walking together in living agreement .The dead know nothing, see nothing, hear nothing, feel nothing.

Jonah 2 King James Version (KJV) Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly, And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

"Belly of hell" place of living suffering same as three days and nights in hard "heart of the earth" .

When Jesus suffered the pangs of hell. He said Father take away this cup. . . if not strengthen me to finish it .Just as he did with Jonas . the last sign and wonder . Which is different than a sign. . . like a sign of times that stands alone and not as a wonderment source of unseen.(faith)

According to Scripture, those who repent and believe are justified right then and there. See Romans 4. But justification must be followed by ongoing sanctification (which also involves faith), and ultimately results in glorification (which is the supernatural work of God and Christ -- Romans 8:29,30)

This passage in James should be read as in the KJV: Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. (Jas 5:19,20) [Note: "a soul" rather than "his soul", a soul meaning an individual or person]

So what is being taught in this passage?
1. The context would be that of the local church, where each person knows the others, and therefore becomes aware that a brother or sister is sinning.
2. James tells us that if we know of such a situation (erring from the truth meaning either false teaching or sinful behavior) we are to make an effort to reach out to this person to encourage them to repent (hence the word "convert").
3. If we are able to accomplish that there are two positive results (1) we have prevented the possible premature PHYSICAL DEATH of that brother (or sister) and (2) we have prevented a multitude of sins from becoming the reason for God's chastisement on this person.

This passage cannot be divorced from that of the sin unto death (1 John 5:16,17) or that of partaking unworthily of the Lord's Supper and facing premature death (1 Cor 11:26-34). In both cases, the salvation of the believer is not at stake, but his or her continued existence on earth is. A good example is that of Ananias and Sapphira, who died immediately.

This is wrong Nehemiah,

The fact that James refers to them as brothers would demonstrate that they are believers. If any of those believers wander from the truth, while they are in that state, they are accumulating sin which leads to death, not only physical death, but eternal. Physical only is being implied. Faith is what plugs us into God's grace. When you unplug you have lost your connection and must repent and return. The scripture is very clear on this and it's not a matter of translation.

I never be convinced that a one time act of faith saves a person, but that the faith that is spoken of is from first to last.

How did you explain the unfaithful servant scripture, or the "I am the Vine and you are the branches?"

How do you explain Colossians 1:22-23?

I could go on and on with this. There are just too many scriptures that demonstrate that all promises are dependent upon continuing in faith. If a believer turns back to the world and is willfully living according to the sinful nature, then while they are in that state they are accumulating sin and are on their way to the ultimate death, not just physical.

Here's one more example:

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herefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold h was brought to him. 25Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.


26“At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ 27The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.


28“But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins. i He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.


29“His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’


30“But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.


32“Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.


35“This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”
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King = God

Servant(s) = believer(s)

Money debt = our sins against God.

Notice in v.26 that the servant's debt/sin is cancelled. But then because that servant did not forgive his fellow servant, he was brought back before the King and the servants cancelled debt that was reinstated and ended up paying the full debt.

Jesus says, this is how our heavenly Father will treat us if we don't forgive our brothers who sin against us. The point is not about the situation but the fact that salvation can be rescinded.

I respect you as a brother, but in the case OSAS I am not and have never been in agreement. I believe that OSAS is true if one continues in faith from beginning to end.

If Christians desire the truth of God, they cannot simply focus on one verse and ignore everything else which has an impact on Gospel Truth. Furthermore, we are to take what is plain and clear and unmistakable, and then interpret that which may be puzzling.

So let's start with something which is straightforward:

ETERNAL LIFE IS GOD'S GIFT THROUGH CHRIST
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Rom 6:23)

So the question arises : Is God in the habit of giving gifts to men and then snatching them away? The answer is obvious. And do you personally do that habitually? That answer too is obvious. You do not give someone a birthday gift, and when you are leaving the party, grab it and walk away with it.

ETERNAL LIFE IS CHRIST HIMSELF
Jesus said unto her [Martha], I am the Resurrection, and the Life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? (John 11:25,26)

Is there even a hint in this passage, that eternal life is "iffy" or that Christ can reverse what He has just said? The answer is obvious. And salvation (eternal life) is "Christ in you the hope of glory".

THOSE WHO ARE JUSTIFIED OR SAVED BY GRACE RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE
That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. (Titus 3:7)

If that is not perfectly clear we have this passage:
That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:7-9)

So what does this last passage teach:
1 "In the ages to come" = IN ETERNITY
2. "For by grace are ye saved through faith" = SALVATION IS ETERNAL LIFE GIVEN BY GOD'S GRACE
3. "And that not of yourselves" = SALVATION IS TOTALLY OF THE LORD
4. "It is the gift of God" = ONCE GIVEN IT IS NOT TAKEN BACK.

There are literally dozens of passages in the Bible which clearly teach that no one who has received the gift of eternal life can ever lose it. Now it is your solemn duty and obligation to find those Scriptures and BELIEVE THEM. And also avoid misleading others about this extremely important matter.

I appreciate your point. An eternal suffering for finite mistakes does seem extreme. And also, how do we consolidate the Hell scriptures with the Tanakh scripture in the Book of Ecclesiastes and Chapter 12, 6 Remember Him before the silver cord is snapped, and the golden bowl is crushed, before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, and the wheel is broken at the well, 7 before the dust returns to the ground from which it came, and the spirit returns toGod who gave it. 8“Futility of futilities,” says the Teacher. “Everything is futile!”

First off, I didn't use just one verse to prove my point, I used many, as did another guy, and second, the ones I used were straight forward, simple, and easy to understand.





By looking at all the other verses in the bible concerning the same subject, because you just might have misinterpreted the other EASY verses, you are changing the meaning, and therefore the context of each verse which can stand alone.
To you, once a person is saved, they can't be unsaved, because that is what you were taught by man, as was I. And because of this flaw in your theology, you have to MAKE the so-called, more difficult to understand verses, to line up with that teaching.
The only reason why they are obscure for you and others who think alone the same lines, is because you are rejecting plain language or the truth.
If you just accept what is written, and keep everything as is, it wouldn't be so confusing for you and others.
If you form your doctrine based on what written, even in a single verse, instead of trying to make the scriptures fit your church doctrines, you wouldn't miss the truth like I believe you are now.
I'm going to give you an example of what you are doing to scripture.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

But what if I add,

1Jn 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

Then tell you, based on the one I injected, that you don't know if it is God's will to save so and so because you don't know if they are called and neither do you or the other person know what the will of God is for that individual.
By interjecting other verses into a single verse, you end up changing, not only the meaning, but God's truth.
The reason why you can't take a single verse I used to prove one can lose there salvation, like you do all the time with Jn 3:16, is because, just like Jn 3:16, it would mean exactly what it says, and you can't seem to accept that.

Thanks for the reply. I would offer..

It would make our merciful God merciless. Rather than a suffering that we cannot bear by own selves as God had intended when he increased the work load. (it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength) Cain a marked man 666 received no rest from Christ by reason of his suffering.

Jonas and the Son of man, Jesus did receive rest from the belly of hell or heart of the earth having the faith to cry out to the father when the father strengthened them to finish the living suffering. .

When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, "My punishment is greater than I can bear". Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain,(666) lest any finding him should kill. Genesis 4:12-15

A punishment no man could suffer by his own self. mark my word I will carry it out .No getting off easy with the electric chairs .Hard labor till he dies..

That parable in Ecclesiastes and Chapter 12 would seem to be saying when the well runs dry the temporal corrupted spirit returns to the father, The dust returning where it came from never to rise to new spirit life ever again .

Thanks for the reply. I would offer..

It would make our merciful God merciless. Rather than a suffering that we cannot bear by own selves as God had intended when he increased the work load. (it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength) Cain a marked man 666 received no rest from Christ by reason of his suffering.

Jonas and the Son of man, Jesus did receive rest from the belly of hell or heart of the earth having the faith to cry out to the father when the father strengthened them to finish the living suffering. .

When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, "My punishment is greater than I can bear". Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain,(666) lest any finding him should kill. Genesis 4:12-15

A punishment no man could suffer by his own self. mark my word I will carry it out .No getting off easy with the electric chairs .Hard labor till he dies..

That parable in Ecclesiastes and Chapter 12 would seem to be saying when the well runs dry the temporal corrupted spirit returns to the father, The dust returning where it came from never to rise to new spirit life ever again .

A few points to add if I may.
I would suggest that there are no verses that speak of Jesus entering Hell after crucifixion because he commended his spirit to return to its source, himself, the Father, from the cross.

Hello Whispered,

Actually there is scripture that infers that Jesus' spirit went to Hades after the death of His body.

"Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!”

And Jesus said to him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”

First, how could Jesus make the promise to the thief that he would be with Him in paradise when both men died that same day? And second, what was Jesus referring to by paradise?

The first is referring to the fact that, when both the bodies of Jesus and the thief died, their spirits departed. As we learned from the event of the rich man and Lazarus, both men died and their bodies buried, but their spirits where found in Sheol/Hades, conscious and aware. This place is described as having two areas which were divided by a great chasm. The spirits of Abraham and Lazarus were in the side of comfort, while the spirit of the rich man was in the side of torment in flame. When the bodies of Jesus and the thief died, their spirits departed and went down to that same place of comfort/paradise where Abraham and Lazarus were. When Jesus said that "the Son of man will be in the heart of the earth for three nights and three days, He wasn't just speaking bout His body being in the tomb, but His spirit also being Hades.

Many attempt to claim that paradise was referring to Jesus going to heaven. However, that would be in contention with the fact that when Jesus resurrected He told Mary not to hold on to Him because He had not yet ascended to the Father, which would infer that He had not yet gone to heaven.

I know there are some churches about that teach Jesus descended into Hell, or Hades, after he died on the cross. I do not follow that line of thought. Paradise would not be Hades, Hell, Sheol, or any of those dark netherworld places someone might think of when thinking of the opposite of paradise.
Jesus told the thief that on that day the thief would be with Christ in paradise. After that promise Jesus gave up his spirit. Prior to doing this he commended his spirit to the Father. The Father does not live anywhere but in paradise. Jesus and the thief on that day were in paradise. Just as Jesus had the power and authority to forgive sins while in his time on earth, he had also the power to keep his promise that day to the believing thief who was dying beside him.

Revelation 2:7

'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.'

just as Jesus had the power and authority to forgive sins while in his time on earth, he had also the power to keep his promise that day to the believing thief who was dying beside him.

If we take the first workings of verse (John3:16) by believing God "not perish but have everlasting life" .Having it gives the confidence (1Jn 5:14 ) to pray to Him in a living hope of receiving. .

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Who else could we build our confidence on? Peter, Paul and Mary

First of all, I did not learn this from any man or pastor or church, but from my own personal studies of 45 years. So I don't follow anyone's line of thought, but instead put together all related scriptures.

As I said, Hades is where the spirits of Jesus and the thief went to after their bodies died. I also provided for you the scripture that demonstrates that Jesus said that He had not yet ascended to the Father, which would mean that He hadn't gone heaven yet. Therefore, you're left with the problem of where that place of paradise was. Since both Abraham, Lazarus and in fact all of the OT saints, were in that area of comfort within Hades, then this place of comfort was that place of paradise which Jesus was referring to.

It's not about a line of reasoning, but of proper exegesis, taking into account all of the related scriptures on any given Biblical subject.



Yes, I agree with you, Jesus had the power to forgive the sins of the thief, but that is not the issue. What the issue is, is that Jesus also said to the thief "today you will be with me in paradise." Therefore we have to consider how Jesus could make that promise when they both died that same day? It was because He was speaking about where their spirits would go once their bodies died. And that place was the same place of comfort/paradise where Abraham and Lazarus were down in Hades.

We all are going through trials at certain points of our life when Satan makes requests of God to swift us and sadly many fall and do not stand up. Is it because they are lukewarm Christians or lacking of faith?