If Perchance Catholicism Is Mistaken

Yes, Moving the holy men of old to believe giving the authority opening their ears. I would think without the faith of Christ that works in us, yoked with him to both will and do his good pleasure .They could not hear.

It does show they have the Spirit of Christ no of there own selves but the free gift of faith .His workings in us that can believe him not seen.

Like the Noble Bereans used to edify the new kingdom of priest after the new testament order .also used with Peter.

With all readiness of mind by Him who not only teaches us but also brings to our minds the things he has.

Acts 17:11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: . . . . .(us)

They heard the inspired word of God and were moved by the Spirit of Christ in them to see if it was so. This is when God was still bringing new revelations. We now have the perfect sealed with 7 seals till the end of time.

Parable 25:2- 3 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.

Making us searchable to the world

You could say as a kingdom of Priest, ambassadors for Christ. . sent as apostles from a foreign land not of here (not under the Sun) .To those he gives the understanding. . . hid in various parables.

To me Paul say this verse say every body know God through His creation, not in the context they worship abraham god, but in the context no excuses to do evil.

Than it may there are people that never heard about Jesus worship unknown God.

Not mean Muslim worship abraham god. Because some Muslim hear about Jesus, their prophet mohammad uncle is Christian. His wife kotijah was catholic.

What do you mean by tradition? Tradition of the apostle or tradition of pagan?

My brother, you know the Bible very good, I do not understand why you do not have opinion if purgatory is base on the Bible or not.

We are Christian must concern about what happen after death. After death eternity, that is jesus want us to focus on.
Colossians 3 King James Version (KJV)

3 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

Bible also say test every Spirit or teaching.

I hope we learn to obey the Bible, like you say you die with Christ, mean you have to obey bible to test if purgatory in the Bible.

Vatican read about Jesus, heard about Jesus and reject Jesus teaching by teach purgatory.

Purgatory origin from pagan, I understand if pagan teach purgatory, because they do not know or never heard about Jesus.

That is simply a dodge. Once a Catholic rejects the fantasy of Purgatory, he would have to reject ALL THE TEACHINGS of the Catholic church and come out of Babylon. But too many would rather cling to their denominations than believe the Bible.

Why ireneus put john as the writer?
It may he was investigate. John die about ad 100. Ireneus put his name at ad 160

He may know apostle john when the apostle live. And he may know who wrote that letter. Or he may know from other. I do not think he is lie.

Not about purgatory, which apostle teach it, if it is apostle tradition, why not in the act.

We are Christian must concern about what happen after death. After death eternity, that is jesus want us to focus on.
Colossians 3 King James Version (KJV)

3 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

Bible also say test every Spirit or teaching.

I hope we learn to obey the Bible, like you say you die with Christ, mean you have to obey bible to test if purgatory in the Bible.

Vatican read about Jesus, heard about Jesus and reject Jesus teaching by teach purgatory.

Purgatory origin from pagan, I understand if pagan teach purgatory, because they do not know or never heard about Jesus.

If I follow your reasoning, the reason that you say that Muslims don't adore Abraham God is because they attached wrong characteristics to God.

But as we've seen, the Jews do the same thing.

Well, let's talk about the Bible that you use. In the New testament section, since that's what we've been talking about, there are 27 books, probably.

So the people that published your Bible, did they pick out those 27 books themselves? Probably not. They probably used those 27 books because that's what traditionally Christians have used.

So they based it on Christian tradition.

But if you go back in time to the early Christians, it turns out they didn't arrive at that same list until about 360 or 380 a d.

Different parts of the Bible seem to talk about what happens after death differently. For example, one part says the dead are unconscious, another part talks about dead people being aware of what's going on around them.

And I'm not sure what the official Catholic teaching is on what happens after death.

I suppose another thing we could say about Protestants and Catholics is that Protestants tend to view Jesus as done speaking at the end of the book we call revelation. I think Catholics say that Jesus continues to speak through the body of Christ. So I think Catholics would say that they may have doctrines that are not talked about in the scriptures.

This reminds me of an interesting scripture
1 Corinthians 15: 29. Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

There's something in the Bible that nobody except Mormons practices today. And yes, I'm aware that Paul doesn't actually say to do that, but he doesn't tell the Corinthians to stop doing it either!

I suppose another thing we could say about Protestants and Catholics is that Protestants tend to view Jesus as done speaking at the end of the book we call revelation. I think Catholics say that Jesus continues to speak through the body of Christ. So I think Catholics would say that they may have doctrines that are not talked about in the scriptures.

This reminds me of an interesting scripture
1 Corinthians 15: 29. Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

There's something in the Bible that nobody except Mormons practices today. And yes, I'm aware that Paul doesn't actually say to do that, but he doesn't tell the Corinthians to stop doing it either!

It may be true that God simply tells people which books or documents are scripture.

I think it's interesting that the first person who actually wrote down for the first time the list of books for the New testament that we use today was a gentleman named Athanasius. I think he was a bishop.

http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon3.html

Jews do the same think, now, in Moses time jesus not come to earth yet, Jesus say about Holy Spirit in his earthly life, so if Jews before Jesus do not have clue about trinity, it is understandable

Muslim start about 600 years after Christ.

Jews do the same think, now, in Moses time jesus not come to earth yet, Jesus say about Holy Spirit in his earthly life, so if Jews before Jesus do not have clue about trinity, it is understandable

Muslim start about 600 years after Christ.

Pray to Jesus is also Christian tradition, how about pray to Mary?

What part of the Bible teach purgatory

I do not think Paul teach baptism for the death. Paul question about logic.

The people that baptized the death do not believe in life after death.

But baptism for the death is useless.

And do you believe pray to Mary is the revelation after bible?