Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

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1COR. 11:1.
Be you followers of Me, even as I also am of Christ. - the reason that Paul says this is because these are absolutely
'babies-in-Christ', - he is not 'usurping Christ, he is most certainly 'serving Him', he had the 'road of Damscus conversion!,
he is a most 'loyal-servant', he describes himself as the most evil-sinner among all men, and yet, Christ 'chose him', for
his 'mis-directed zealousness'!!! He loved him so much that He pointed and appointed him to become His most faithful
and powerful servant as His representative for ALL OF THE WORLD!!!
(Paul never disagrees with Jesus Christ), but Paul is difficult to 'understand'...

I haven`t seen much to comment on. Most of you just keep repeating the same things and the majority of that is just name calling and slurs.At this point I`m just looking at this board when I get a little bored while I`m resting my knee. I stopped trying to put up new topics to talk about.

Some of the seeds in the parable sprouted and came to life for awhile. They had life so they had a temporary salvation of some kind. The sprouts that didn`t make it had no fruit and it goes without saying that they disobeyed.


14 The sower soweth the word.

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;

17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

For he has not given us a spirit of fear, but of sound mind

Where would fear come from?

They had no fruit because they were never saved

True children produce fruit, false children do not, because their faith is dead (see james 2)

I don`t care about talking with you at all. The post was for DeighAnn`s benefit.

Also, if I were having discussion with reasonable, polite, honest people I would be interested in their thoughts about the life in the sprout that died.

Christians that fail often have the touch of God in them for a season and the conditional salvation position has it`s scriptures. I`ve never been fully satisfied in rejecting it, not that I expect to see anything good on the topic by you or some of your cronies.

With the right people I would enjoy considering some opinions about it. And I don`t mean the standard that`s wrong Judah nonsense I see in here all time. I mean real opinions by people who have different views on the topic.

You can’t expect people to be polite and reasonable when you are not.

You really need to look in a mirror my friend

I have been polite and always reasonable for quite awhile now. I quit retaliating when I gave up trying to contribute new topics. You just don`t realize it.

I`ve made an effort to be nice to you, you just don`t have the insight to see it.

I would not call what you did this afternoon being nice.

I would call it trying to pick a fight. Felt like high school

You take things that I say the wrong way. It`s also interesting to note that you boast about how you will post when you disagree with me but you don`t like it when I disagree with you.

You seem to endorse the things the other legalists and judaizers are saying.

So guilt by association I suppose.

Plus, your 2 gospel theory didn't help you too much in that area either. You have to know that, right?

I endorse what Paul told Timothy about it.

And the two gospels isn`t a theory, it`s just a simple literal interpretation of certain scriptures in the Bible. Belief in Paul`s gospel is anti legalist. It`s not a reasonable assertion to call someone who believes in Paul`s doctrine a judaizer.

Why do you think the law was written on our hearts if we do not need it? Did Jesus say that we don't need the law? When He gave the instructions to preach the gospel and teach people to obey whatever He commanded them, does that not include the 10 commandments which were summed up in this one rule: "love your neighbour as yourself"?
In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings. But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals—these are the very things that destroy them. Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion. These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, WITHOUT FRUIT and uprooted—TWICE DEAD. They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. A Call to Persevere But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” THESE ARE THE MEN WHO DIVIDE YOU, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
Jude 1:8-19

The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life John 6:63

“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” “Which ones?” the man inquired. Jesus replied, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’” Matthew 19:17-19

And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. Those who obey his commands live in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us. 1 John 3:23-24

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor? James 4:12

The Master's word/s is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.

Confess Jesus as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.

God is good and His Love endures forever. Amen.

doctrine is a flash point I think for a lot of us. I think you are doing fine and like all of us He hasn't finished the work He began in each of us. When I don't lose my head I try and remember the encounter with Saul and the Lord asked him why he was doing the things to the Lord not the people who were actually attacked by Saul. Whatever is said whatever is done is all done to him. So we will walk this wilderness of sin together and trust we can speak kindly with full truth. Here is one of my other big failures, warn some one who is disruptive and then have nothing to do with them. When you want to run them over its hard to remember be nice. What so nice is He knows exactly how we feel and He loves our spirit He is a wonderful, faithful, merciful < Husband and He has our reward. Our works will be tried at the end and all that isn't done in love and the ministry of reconcilliation I think will be burned and we will suffer loss. Hang in there friend He will get us all through. God bless

To understand why Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles, it will help to understand why Moses is the lawgiver, why the entire Law is summed up as the "Law of Moses", even though the Law was given by God.

Even Jesus himself referred to the Law as "The Law of Moses". As he is living under the law, he is also subjected to Moses. (John 5:46, Matthew 19:8, Matthew 23:1, 2, Mark 7:9, 10).

Moses authority has been challenged before by the Jews, who wanted to hear directly from God instead. In the famous story recounted in Numbers 12

And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

2 And they said, Hath the Lord indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the Lord heard it.

3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)

8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the Lord shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

9 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against them; and he departed.

Likewise, almost all of us are Gentiles here. We belong to the Church, and in this age of grace, Paul is our apostle, his importance is equivalent to Moses, as the lawgiver to the Jews.

Paul's words are the words of the ascended Lord Jesus to his Church, and we will do well to follow what Paul is saying, as instructed in 1 Corinthians 14:37

If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.