Racism In The Headlines

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Lightskin

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Everything I've seen in the local news is that those closest to the victim (family and church members) were content with the outcome so it seems that the only outrage about the verdict and sentence is from those who have no prevailing reason to be outraged.
If someone of sound mind deems a miscarriage of justice has taken place, that is prevailing reason to be outraged. I don’t see this case as white privilege, but rather as cute white blonde police officer privilege.

I was surprised she was found guilty of murder and then sentenced to only 10 years. IMO it was manslaughter worthy of 15 to 25 years. Again IMO, if the circumstances were exactly the same except it was a black man killing a white blonde haired woman, the sentence would have been much more severe.
 

Roughsoul1991

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If someone of sound mind deems a miscarriage of justice has taken place, that is prevailing reason to be outraged. I don’t see this case as white privilege, but rather as cute white blonde police officer privilege.

I was surprised she was found guilty of murder and then sentenced to only 10 years. IMO it was manslaughter worthy of 15 to 25 years. Again IMO, if the circumstances were exactly the same except it was a black man killing a white blonde haired woman, the sentence would have been much more severe.
The judge only allowed the jury to decide on a 5 to 20 year sentence.
 

Roughsoul1991

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If someone of sound mind deems a miscarriage of justice has taken place, that is prevailing reason to be outraged. I don’t see this case as white privilege, but rather as cute white blonde police officer privilege.

I was surprised she was found guilty of murder and then sentenced to only 10 years. IMO it was manslaughter worthy of 15 to 25 years. Again IMO, if the circumstances were exactly the same except it was a black man killing a white blonde haired woman, the sentence would have been much more severe.
Again IMO, if the circumstances were exactly the same except it was a black man killing a white blonde haired woman, the sentence would have been much more severe
How do you know it would of been more severe? You have to judge each individual case. People from all races get locked up for all different time periods but we only hear of the few that go mainstream.

Racism only lives if we keep feeding it. The Charlottesville shooter was sentenced to death after killing multiple African Americans in a church. You know what that church did? They forgave the shooter and wanted him to find the Lord!

Maybe we can learn from those in the Charlottesville church, the judge, the brother. They all could of pointed towards racism and or began riots in the streets but they chose a different perspective.
 

Lightskin

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How do you know it would of been more severe? You have to judge each individual case. People from all races get locked up for all different time periods but we only hear of the few that go mainstream.

Racism only lives if we keep feeding it. The Charlottesville shooter was sentenced to death after killing multiple African Americans in a church. You know what that church did? They forgave the shooter and wanted him to find the Lord!

Maybe we can learn from those in the Charlottesville church, the judge, the brother. They all could of pointed towards racism and or began riots in the streets but they chose a different perspective.
There’s institutional racism. Less than it used to be but it still exists to some extent.
 

Roughsoul1991

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There’s institutional racism. Less than it used to be but it still exists to some extent.
Racism will always exist because people are sinful and wicked without Christ. If you want a fair and moral executive, judicial, or Congress then we must vote for good moral people to fill these seats. It starts with the culture. We need more judges that live from scripture. After all to judge morality we must know absolute morality of God. Basically we need God more in our systems. We need more separation of state influence on the church and more church influence on the state.

Here is a good conservative podcast about this court case.

https://afr.net/podcasts/airing-the...ean-and-what-it-reveals-about-some-christians
 

Lightskin

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Racism will always exist because people are sinful and wicked without Christ. If you want a fair and moral executive, judicial, or Congress then we must vote for good moral people to fill these seats. It starts with the culture. We need more judges that live from scripture. After all to judge morality we must know absolute morality of God. Basically we need God more in our systems. We need more separation of state influence on the church and more church influence on the state.

Here is a good conservative podcast about this court case.

https://afr.net/podcasts/airing-the...ean-and-what-it-reveals-about-some-christians
Well said. I’ll check out the podcast tomorrow.
 
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Kim82

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It was good that she was shown forgiveness. But I feel that this same black judge and the police officer who was seen stroking her hair would not show all this love toward another black person. Such a shame.

If it was a black person, wouldn't they receive harsh treatment, because it is what is to be expected?

Racism only lives if we keep feeding it.
So one should pretend it does not exist?
 

Roughsoul1991

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It was good that she was shown forgiveness. But I feel that this same black judge and the police officer who was seen stroking her hair would not show all this love toward another black person. Such a shame.

If it was a black person, wouldn't they receive harsh treatment, because it is what is to be expected?


So one should pretend it does not exist?
If it was a black person, wouldn't they receive harsh treatment, because it is what is to be expected?
Why? Aren't we all made in the image of God? Why is it expected? USA Today had this story on the frontlines speaking about the brothers forgiveness and faith in Christ. A mainly liberal news media showed the beautiful example of Christ. Christ forgives us and we dont deserve it. We deserve life behind bars ( eternal hell). That boy gives hope for the future.

Obviously I can only speak for me and not the law enforcement or judiciary system. Is there corruption? Unfortunately yes. Do I believe it is a huge issue of corruption? No I do not. I believe most people try to do a good job. Out of the 1000s of court cases and police encounters daily we only hear of the bad examples. Corruption should be bleed out. Every system has the spiritual warfare within. Good and bad.

Compare our law enforcement and judiciary system to others around the world. Ours is the best earthly system much of it based in Biblical principles especially dealing with the judiciary branch.

Our system was created during a world where justice 1 person either the judge, the King, or the stronger individual brought their idea of judgment. Our system is the best in the world and it has only gotten better due to the rights and freedoms our Founding Fathers established that all men are created equal and all human rights come from the creator. The Amendment system paved the way for the people to fight for justice and make it law.

Us individuals should only judge off of facts and evidence. We shouldn't even entertain conspiracies if we cannot prove them. Any case is a individual case with it's own evidence and facts. To judge something before all that is played out is wrong. People riot before the evidence is even released. People spread lies and hate all over social media without even looking at the evidence. Sometimes the evidence isnt enough and the jury must decide.

So one should pretend it does not exist?
No but one shouldn't feed it if it evidently has no warrant. As in this case we may can debate the sentencing process but to scream racism like many did. But the Judge was of a different color and 10 on the jury was of a different color and nothing has been proven to be a racial hate crime or corruption due to racism, then we shouldn't feed into the hate.

Instead we should be using this to our secular friends to show that is the image of Christ in that boy and the image of a Christian in that judge.
 
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Kim82

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It's obvious that you're a confused individual. Speaking on issues of which you know nothing about.

Ready to browbeat anyone who does not agree with you and accuse people of spreading hate, while being overly religious when there is no need for it.
 

Roughsoul1991

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It's obvious that you're a confused individual. Speaking on issues of which you know nothing about.

Ready to browbeat anyone who does not agree with you and accuse people of spreading hate, while being overly religious when there is no need for it.
Browbeat definition is - to intimidate or disconcert by a stern manner or arrogant speech : bully.

So your reply feels very stern, arrogant and kinda bullishness to me with no explanation but explain to me.

What am I confused on? What do you mean by that? How was what I said bullying you. What part do I not understand? Did I reintimidate you? Or try to confuse you? What was arrogant?

Overly religious? Please explain what part was overly religious. I also didn't accuse you of spreading hate. I said if anyone is spreading lies or false assumptions then yes they are spreading unneeded racial hate.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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White Privilege is murdering a man in his own home while he's sitting on the couch eating ice cream and only getting 10 years for it
Had the roles been reversed, that man would have spent the rest of his life in prison
I don't think that it is a case of "white privilege", as much as it is that money buys the justice system. To prove that case all one has to do is look at the number of football players and basketball players and rappers, and other rich black people who get off the hook for the crimes or are let off easy.
Now the case can be made that among the poor classes black people tend to be more severely punished by the criminal justice system their white counterparts. the problem with that is that it is in urban areas and those are urban areas are generally run and controlled by the political party that claims to oppose white privilege. That part of it seems to be engineered by that particular party in order to bolster their claims.
I have come to the place where anytime I hear someone cry racism or white privilege I immediately dismiss that person as ignorant, sometimes willfully so.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Ok this is ridiculous.
The judge was black, are they trying to make the case that the black judge is racist against black people. I read the article and what I found is that 10 years would be a typical sentence for such a case. It was an unintentional homicide not a cold-blooded murder. She made a very serious and grave mistake thinking that she was in her own apartment after working and insane amount of hours.
There is a lot to learn from this case.
But the most important thing about this case is that the family of the victim felt as though Justice was served.
 

Lightskin

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It was an unintentional homicide not a cold-blooded murder. She made a very serious and grave mistake thinking that she was in her own apartment after working and insane amount of hours.
You’re making excuses for a cop who was involved in two shootings in just four years. Little Miss Amber has an itchy trigger finger.
 
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UnderGrace

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You’re making excuses for a cop who was involved in two shootings in just four years. Little Miss Amber has an itchy trigger finger.
I agree.
Something is definitely not right in that whole scenario.
 
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UnderGrace

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Ok this is ridiculous.
The judge was black, are they trying to make the case that the black judge is racist against black people. I read the article and what I found is that 10 years would be a typical sentence for such a case. It was an unintentional homicide not a cold-blooded murder. She made a very serious and grave mistake thinking that she was in her own apartment after working and insane amount of hours.
There is a lot to learn from this case.
But the most important thing about this case is that the family of the victim felt as though Justice was served.
Well we will never know, but I know many professionals who work long hours/shifts in hospitals actually having to make life and death decisions and still manage to get to the right apartment and not kill anyone or be killed.
 
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UnderGrace

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It was good that she was shown forgiveness. But I feel that this same black judge and the police officer who was seen stroking her hair would not show all this love toward another black person. Such a shame.

If it was a black person, wouldn't they receive harsh treatment, because it is what is to be expected?


So one should pretend it does not exist?
I personally feel that the display of emotion and support was not at all appropriate under any circumstances.