Is unconditional election biblical?
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I've heard that Gotquestions.org is more or less like a Reformed perspective but I don't know. Their views are pretty much the same as mine on all but dispensationalism. They are dispensational and I am not. I occasionally read things there that I don't agree with.
I use their site when I agree with it, because it is generally well-researched and if someone asks for my view, I don't have to write a whole explanation from scratch.
I don't believe they are Pentecostals but I haven't read their things on spiritual experiences, etc.
I do rely on Scripture, but I don't think I know it all and I refer to other sound brothers in Christ, too. The Church is a community endeavor. It isn't about me and I'm not a lone ranger Christian. I almost always read Reformed authors, though, because most other types have a weak view of God's sovereignty and they annoy me.
I use their site when I agree with it, because it is generally well-researched and if someone asks for my view, I don't have to write a whole explanation from scratch.
I don't believe they are Pentecostals but I haven't read their things on spiritual experiences, etc.
I do rely on Scripture, but I don't think I know it all and I refer to other sound brothers in Christ, too. The Church is a community endeavor. It isn't about me and I'm not a lone ranger Christian. I almost always read Reformed authors, though, because most other types have a weak view of God's sovereignty and they annoy me.
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Judas didn't repent and he went to "his place".
There are two kinds of repentance. One is worldly repentance and the other is godly repentance. Judas didn't have godly repentance. He went to "his place" and was called the "son of perdition" which is basically an indication that he went to eternal punishment.
There are two kinds of repentance. One is worldly repentance and the other is godly repentance. Judas didn't have godly repentance. He went to "his place" and was called the "son of perdition" which is basically an indication that he went to eternal punishment.
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The Gospel precedes regeneration. This much is true. However one can't exercise faith and repentance with a stony heart. It would be like trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip.
Yet, that is what decisional regeneration claims.
Decisional regeneration
Hear the gospel => faith and repentance (with a stony heart) => regeneration (new heart)
Reformed theology
Hear the gospel => regeneration (receiving a heart of flesh) => faith and repentance (with a heart of flesh)
One might view receiving the Holy Spirit a sealing, rather than strictly related to regeneration. There have been different views on that. Both would be works of the Holy Spirit though.
Yet, that is what decisional regeneration claims.
Decisional regeneration
Hear the gospel => faith and repentance (with a stony heart) => regeneration (new heart)
Reformed theology
Hear the gospel => regeneration (receiving a heart of flesh) => faith and repentance (with a heart of flesh)
One might view receiving the Holy Spirit a sealing, rather than strictly related to regeneration. There have been different views on that. Both would be works of the Holy Spirit though.
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There is a difference between "hearing" in terms of merely hearing the words, and "hearing" that would be sinking in, and would make sense to the hearer.
The first is what we would term a "general call" and the second is what we would term an "effectual call". At the right time, the elect hear an effectual call from the LORD and they respond.
I am going to do a thread on irresistible grace and that is the focus of this doctrine.
The first is what we would term a "general call" and the second is what we would term an "effectual call". At the right time, the elect hear an effectual call from the LORD and they respond.
I am going to do a thread on irresistible grace and that is the focus of this doctrine.
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Your post #199.
Did you read 1 Cor 2:14? If so, what is your interpretation of it?
John 6:44, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him, "AND I WILL RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY". He does not draw all mankind, otherwise, all mankind will be raised up at the last day. Does not sound like there was any deciding to trust/believe to it.
Did you read 1 Cor 2:14? If so, what is your interpretation of it?
John 6:44, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him, "AND I WILL RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY". He does not draw all mankind, otherwise, all mankind will be raised up at the last day. Does not sound like there was any deciding to trust/believe to it.
Scripture proves scripture and they all must harmonize. I am upholding and standing in defense of the doctrine that Jesus taught, according to the scriptures. When I see a scripture misquoted, I feel obligated to prove the misquote with harmonizing scriptures. Many on this forum avoid trying to harmonize some scriptures that they do not know how to explain. In the days that Jesus taught most of the population was "like Whaaaa? at his teachings.
Matthew 26:24-25 24 The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.” 25 Judas, who would betray him, answered, “Is it I, Rabbi?” He said to him, “You have said so.” (ESV)
I'm not going to debate Judas' fate as it is very obvious
I never met anyone who wanted to preach Judas into eternal life.
I'm not going to debate Judas' fate as it is very obvious
I never met anyone who wanted to preach Judas into eternal life.
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Matthew 26:24-25 24 The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.” 25 Judas, who would betray him, answered, “Is it I, Rabbi?” He said to him, “You have said so.” (ESV)
I'm not going to debate Judas' fate as it is very obvious
I never met anyone who wanted to preach Judas into eternal life.
I'm not going to debate Judas' fate as it is very obvious
I never met anyone who wanted to preach Judas into eternal life.
You are the one that is saying where Judas is, not me. I hope we can continue to discuss our differences in interpreting the scriptures with patience for one another. I realize that I preach a very confusing doctrine and believe it to be the same doctrine that Jesus taught which also brought about much confusion to the majority of the population in his day. I don't particularly like the expression "dude".
Are your beliefs part of some group like the Primitive Baptist or something? You mentioned that you think that there are saved people who never heard the gospel. That's something Primitive Baptists believe.
I want to make it clear that I do not want folks to confuse my theology with yours. You may share some Reformed beliefs but from what I can see, they're really distorted. I'm just a normal Reformed Baptist type who attends an Evangelical Free church.
I want to make it clear that I do not want folks to confuse my theology with yours. You may share some Reformed beliefs but from what I can see, they're really distorted. I'm just a normal Reformed Baptist type who attends an Evangelical Free church.
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