Is God A Moral Monster?

Adam "being responsible" for Eve, doesn't seem to hold up in light of:
Genesis 3
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Which seems to indicate, that "before?" They were "mutual help meets" for each other.

As the written record bears out? This didn't occur til "after" their eyes were opened, and became "cognizant" of their "nakedness." So, covered those parts of themselves that they believed was the cause of their "eyes to be opened" with fig leaves.

Really!?
When's the last time you voted, eh?

Last time I voted was in 2012. I just do not vote anymore.

Then we are being "governed" by that which we "deserve."
Yeah! Sure! In the end? God wins! Doesn't mean "we" do though!

Adam knows why his eyes were opened. he knows it's the fruit he ate. he doesn't blame his genitals. Adam is not deceived, and he still has the wisdom to change Woman's name to Eve - an act of understanding for which God Himself exclaims, behold!

Oops this thread has been very interesting lol. Before this thread I never knew people worshipped a different God in scripture and not the whole image of God in scripture.

Wanted to refute the atheists objections but I suppose more theological work needs to be done in the church to explain why the whole Bible is accurate.

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Does the upper shelf hold the can of Whoop-A**?

would that necessarily imply equality? why two heads?

does the judgement of God fit the crime?

if it does, what does that tell you about Woman's motive?

what would the woman's motive tell you about the situation before she ate?

what would Adam's & Satan's judgement tell you about their motives?
or Cain's?

Woman was ashamed before Adam. he met her while she was the first and only sinful human on earth and he was the first human and the only human on earth who did not know sin. her eyes were open to something that his eyes were not, and he was not deceived.
God asked Adam who told him he was naked. He called to Adam, not to both of them, not to Woman - and He asked him who told him he was naked. Adam replied, the Woman.

Does the upper shelf hold the can of Whoop-A**?

4 hands can get more done.



Yes!



Wasn't woman's motive. T'was the serpents. Wasn't till after their eyes were opened, she realized she'd been duped!



I thinks it's the same motive Adam had. God didn't tell him there were "enemies" on the premises.



The "war" was between God and "the serpent." Much akin to what God told satan concerning Job.

Adam shoulda been more like Job, and less like Adam, eh?

The "serpents" motive is to "replace" God on His Throne. (also called the "son of perdition" 2Thess.2:4)

Cain's motive was to further his "daddy's" exploits.

I thinks it's the same motive Adam had. God didn't tell him there were "enemies" on the premises.

But God did tell them not to eat from a certain tree or a certain reaction would happen. The only ought not to command but mankind chose to still eat from that tree.

It wasn't many trees of knowledge. But 1 tree. They didn't just eat from it by accident. The serpent didn't change the tree, or the fruit, but simply just tempted Eve. She knew that was the tree but decided she would listen to a mere serpent over God.

And boy they must if regretted it. It was like living in the richest place on Earth but then being thrown out into the slums. Going from unbroken to a broken world must of been a shocking experience. Something we cannot imagine due to we only see the broken world.

But remember, the serpent was smarter than Eve. He persuaded her through his cunning, and led her to believe him because she did not know what evil was. She did not know he was leading her to grievous error.
The Book of Genesis chapter 3
Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which Jehovah God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of [a]any tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat: 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as [b]God, knowing good and evil. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was [c]to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat; and she gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat. 7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig-leaves together, and made themselves [d]aprons. 8 And they heard the [e]voice of Jehovah God walking in the garden in the [f]cool of the day: and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of Jehovah God amongst the trees of the garden.

The eating of the forbidden fruit, made Eve wise and like God, knowing the difference between good and evil, obedience and disobedience.

Have we asked ourselves, why was it wrong to be in the knowledge that God has? Knowing good from evil? And why would such a tree being planted in the garden still lead God to look upon all his creation once finished and declare it good?

God asked where was Adam because Adam was in the flesh now, in other words, no longer innocent but fully aware of his being. Realizing he was exposed (naked) , his innocence cast off, he felt ashamed. As did Eve.

It is a deeper story than what appears on the surface.

According to Gen.3:6? Both their eyes were opened at the same time. Also sounds like they were both, yea, even all 3 together when "they ate."

She knew what God had told her through. God told them not to eat from that tree. So anything else was a direct contradiction even when not knowing evil. They still knew God gave them a ought not even if they didn't understand why. It was a simple act of obedience.

The eating of the forbidden fruit, made Eve wise and like God,

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Oops this thread has been very interesting lol. Before this thread I never knew people worshipped a different God in scripture and not the whole image of God in scripture.

Wanted to refute the atheists objections but I suppose more theological work needs to be done in the church to explain why the whole Bible is accurate.