I Don't Like Men

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VineyardsOfEngedi

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Well the ones that were deleted were not a joke.

And I still do not get your point... if anyone should be offended by my comment it would be @Lightskin
No because your ... you can take a joke was not directed at him... because he didn't mock you he mocked me and you chimed in and made that stupid rhetoric.
 

G00WZ

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What do you mean by... for self forgiveness?
Forgiveness for any and everything you might feel insecure about or anything that you might have that is going on or had go on in the past. Forgiveness for any mistakes made in the past, forgiveness for hurting others or being hurt... Pretty much anything in your life that haunts you that you can think of.
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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Forgiveness for any and everything you might feel insecure about or anything that you might have that going on or had go on in the past. Forgiveness for any mistakes made in the past, forgiveness for hurting others or being hurt... Pretty much anything in your life that haunts you that you can think of.
I don't get it, why should I forgive myself for being hurt? Don't answer that.
 
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EleventhHour

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No because your ... you can take a joke was not directed at him... because he didn't mock you he mocked me and you chimed in and made that stupid rhetoric.
It was actually directed at him as a joke... we have joked before....but okay.

Your disgust towards men really saddens me as mom who worked very hard to raise a thoughtful, loving, kind, respectful son.

I do hope some day you learn to "like" maybe even "love" men.....because I know that "man" was created in the image of God... and that demands respect.... and sin nature is present in all of us!!
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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It was actually directed at him as a joke... we have joked before....but okay.

Your disgust towards men really saddens me as mom who worked very hard to raise a thoughtful, loving, kind, respectful son.

I do hope some day you learn to "like" maybe even "love" men.....because I know that "man" was created in the image of God... and that demands respect.... and sin nature is present in all of us!!
You have joked before elsewhere, this was the first time you put your 2 cents and only after he made that condescending mocking statement directed towards me.

I will not comment about your motherhood. I will say you are being biased and that some have actually failed in this area too, but that's probably for another thread.

Please don't act or pretend to know my position on men only because of my first post.
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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It's funny that people have drawn up conclusions, made comments and given "advice" simply based on those words. I'm done with this thread.
 
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EleventhHour

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You have joked before elsewhere, this was the first time you put your 2 cents and only after he made that condescending mocking statement directed towards me.

I will not comment about your motherhood. I will say you are being biased and that some have actually failed in this area too, but that's probably for another thread.

Please don't act or pretend to know my position on men only because of my first post.
We all have moments were we feel slighted/hurt/damaged by the opposite sex... listen I could tell you quite a bit of my own tragedies...I do know, however, that God did leave me in those unGodly feelings/beliefs and for that I am grateful.

I will pray for you since you seem to want to be combative with me, I actually am very empathetic in the sense that I would feel the same if God did not pull me out of that tragic view.
 

G00WZ

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I don't get it, why should I forgive myself for being hurt? Don't answer that.
Acceptance is a form of forgiveness. Accepting and understanding that it did indeed happen for reasons beyond your comprehension,
understanding that what's done is done, and it had to be done in order to get you and others to where they are right now.
Making peace with that realization, that is forgiveness.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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well then stop watching that media and don't watch the Hallmark channel

I don't watch the Hallmark channel because I cannot stand that sappy boy meets girl and girl dislikes him and by the end it's boy and girl are perfect for each other but it took all of 2 hrs to find that out

we live in the reality channel

so 80% of the women you know are neurotic?

my lands! find another circle :eek:o_O:rolleyes:
Don't you know everyone is neurotic except me.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Acceptance is a form of forgiveness. Accepting and understanding that it did indeed happen for reasons beyond your comprehension,
understanding that what's done is done, and it had to be done in order to get you and others to where they are right now.
Making peace with that realization, that is forgiveness.

yer gettin it wrong

acceptance is not forgiveness

for example: I forgive you for not accepting what I said :whistle:
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Wow this thread is weird.
I'm going to try and figure this out.
So a woman who hates men, but won't specify any reasons even though she seems to know the reason, is diagnosed as paranoid and neurotic, by people who aren't doctors.
Somehow bonnets are misogynistic when I always thought they were old hat used to keep women from getting their faces sunburned back in the pioneer days, but some where in the world women have been burning them as a symbol of oppression. But the real problem is men have let women down and the women should forgive themselves.

Sounds like a heaping load of fertilizer.

All humans have failed but what do you expect from this many generations into the fallen brokenness of a world of sin.

Now I'm going to suggest something radical.

I've been married for 24 years now and I'm not going to lie; it been filled with all manner of bad and good, and work and reward, difficulty, and pleasure, sorrow and joy. At times it was impossibly difficult and we didn't think we would make it any further together.
What do you expect from two people who are broken in sin? Yes we are both Christians but yes Christians still wear this coat of sin and death and until it dies and our spirit returns to the father we will deal with the frailties of this body and the sin that so readily besets us. Our humanness continues to plague us as we continue in this life.
The truth is that our problem with others are actually our problem with ourselves, we make bad decisions. Stop blaming others and have a look at yourself. I am a product of my own foolishness. You are a product of yours.

I have watched many people become bitter with seeking a mate over the years, and usually there are two scenarios, they wouldn't know a good mate if they were standing there saying hey it's me you are looking for, because usually they are, or the person can only draw trash because they are a bitter, hate filled, ugly hearted monster.
 

BenFTW

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It's funny that people have drawn up conclusions, made comments and given "advice" simply based on those words. I'm done with this thread.
You have joked before elsewhere, this was the first time you put your 2 cents and only after he made that condescending mocking statement directed towards me.

I will not comment about your motherhood. I will say you are being biased and that some have actually failed in this area too, but that's probably for another thread.

Please don't act or pretend to know my position on men only because of my first post.
You’re bothered that people have given you advice on the little bit of information you’ve given and you made a post seeking help? Maybe if you were more forthcoming about the ways in which men have not met these godly expectations people could actually minister wisdom into your situation?

You should’ve been done with this thread the moment you wanted to delete it, but you have kept responding to people and correcting them based on their responses to the little bit you gave them. Who’s fault is it?

Is it too much to ask for a little clarity, so your brothers and sisters in Christ can actually assist? If not, what is the purpose of this thread?
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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Wow this thread is weird.
I'm going to try and figure this out.
So a woman who hates men, but won't specify any reasons even though she seems to know the reason, is diagnosed as paranoid and neurotic, by people who aren't doctors.
Somehow bonnets are misogynistic when I always thought they were old hat used to keep women from getting their faces sunburned back in the pioneer days, but some where in the world women have been burning them as a symbol of oppression. But the real problem is men have let women down and the women should forgive themselves.

Sounds like a heaping load of fertilizer.

All humans have failed but what do you expect from this many generations into the fallen brokenness of a world of sin.

Now I'm going to suggest something radical.

I've been married for 24 years now and I'm not going to lie; it been filled with all manner of bad and good, and work and reward, difficulty, and pleasure, sorrow and joy. At times it was impossibly difficult and we didn't think we would make it any further together.
What do you expect from two people who are broken in sin? Yes we are both Christians but yes Christians still wear this coat of sin and death and until it dies and our spirit returns to the father we will deal with the frailties of this body and the sin that so readily besets us. Our humanness continues to plague us as we continue in this life.
The truth is that our problem with others are actually our problem with ourselves, we make bad decisions. Stop blaming others and have a look at yourself. I am a product of my own foolishness. You are a product of yours.

I have watched many people become bitter with seeking a mate over the years, and usually there are two scenarios, they wouldn't know a good mate if they were standing there saying hey it's me you are looking for, because usually they are, or the person can only draw trash because they are a bitter, hate filled, ugly hearted monster.
So your reply started good then got bad with "......that our problem with others are actually our problem with ourselves, we make bad decisions. Stop blaming others and have a look at yourself. I am a product of my own foolishness. You are a product of yours.

I have watched many people become bitter with seeking a mate over the years, and usually there are two scenarios, they wouldn't know a good mate if they were standing there saying hey it's me you are looking for, because usually they are, or the person can only draw trash because they are a bitter, hate filled, ugly hearted monster.
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I will not lie and say I don't want to be married. But this has nothing to do with seeking a mate and for anyone to think that is the case, is ignorant. No one here knows anything about my personal experiences about anything so for someone to say that I am bitter or am an ugly hearted monster is full of it. People that get raped is not due to choices that they make so I would hope they have the right to blame others and not have to look at themselves as the cause or reason they got raped.
 

Magenta

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I don't get it, why should I forgive myself for being hurt? Don't answer that.
Having put yourself in harm's way, perhaps (hopefully) you have learned something about yourself that you needed to know.

Blaming others is the easy way out. Taking personal responsibility requires strength of character.

 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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You’re bothered that people have given you advice on the little bit of information you’ve given and you made a post seeking help? Maybe if you were more forthcoming about the ways in which men have not met these godly expectations people could actually minister wisdom into your situation?

You should’ve been done with this thread the moment you wanted to delete it, but you have kept responding to people and correcting them based on their responses to the little bit you gave them. Who’s fault is it?

Is it too much to ask for a little clarity, so your brothers and sisters in Christ can actually assist? If not, what is the purpose of this thread?
Oh Brother Ben I was wondering when you were going to finish the book. I will not clarify anything, who's fault is it that they didn't ask for more information and automatically assumed my problem is because i am seeking a man? Now I lost the little respect I had for you. Thank you for making your position known.