1. First and Foremost the Word is the beginning of the creation of God yesterday, today, and forever.
John bare record/ testified that the word is the Son of God
supporting verses
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
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2. Also John said he saw the Son of God in verse 34 but 16 verses above he said No Man "which would includes himself" hath seen God at any time.
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Joh 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
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3. The concept of Father is an Originator or Source.
as the firstborn and beginning offspring of my earthly father I was given life in the 1980s however my earthly father must have predated the 1980s in order to give life to me.
"Trying to say Before the Beginning or Beginning of his creation their was no time."
"John 5:26" should allude that life originates from The Father of Spirits himself who is the Source or Originator otherwise known as Ancient of Days.
these concepts are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made to include his authority and divinity.
Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
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4. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with The Father, and the Word was The Father.
The word was the Father, because the Father gave all things into his hand, and with that authority all things were made by him and without him was not anything that was made.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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5. The Lord our God never was God, always is, or has been God.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
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6. Creation was not of the will, authority, or authorized by The Son but of The Father. It all came from the one greater than him. Creation is of The Lord our God The Father especially considering he is lord of heaven and earth
The Son did not begat but is begotten of the one that begat.
1Co 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
1Jn 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
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7. God used his beginning of creation by whom he made the worlds; but still will, authority, ideas, plans, etc of The Father. Because all things are of Him.
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
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8. Thus saith The Lord our God The Father "his authority, his will, his works, etc".
There is no us or we in I.
There is no us or we in himself
Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
Isa 45:11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
Isa 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
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9. Before the Father their was no God formed, neither shall them be after him. Jesus came forth from him neither came of himself. Also the Lord God our Father gave him the kingdom of his early father David.
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
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10. Forgot to mention above; "Joh 1:2" is confirmation that the word was with God in the beginning.
In essence :John 1:2" does not say The Same was in the beginning God.
I am reminded that likely "all things were created by him, and for him: " in that context because God "hath appointed heir of all things"
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
11. But once again Creation was not authorized or the will of the Son, it was not his works, or authority. One has to look at the volume of the book
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
12. And one cannot forget the end. it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
John bare record/ testified that the word is the Son of God
supporting verses
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
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2. Also John said he saw the Son of God in verse 34 but 16 verses above he said No Man "which would includes himself" hath seen God at any time.
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Joh 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
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3. The concept of Father is an Originator or Source.
as the firstborn and beginning offspring of my earthly father I was given life in the 1980s however my earthly father must have predated the 1980s in order to give life to me.
"Trying to say Before the Beginning or Beginning of his creation their was no time."
"John 5:26" should allude that life originates from The Father of Spirits himself who is the Source or Originator otherwise known as Ancient of Days.
these concepts are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made to include his authority and divinity.
Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
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4. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with The Father, and the Word was The Father.
The word was the Father, because the Father gave all things into his hand, and with that authority all things were made by him and without him was not anything that was made.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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5. The Lord our God never was God, always is, or has been God.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
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6. Creation was not of the will, authority, or authorized by The Son but of The Father. It all came from the one greater than him. Creation is of The Lord our God The Father especially considering he is lord of heaven and earth
The Son did not begat but is begotten of the one that begat.
1Co 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
1Jn 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
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7. God used his beginning of creation by whom he made the worlds; but still will, authority, ideas, plans, etc of The Father. Because all things are of Him.
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
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8. Thus saith The Lord our God The Father "his authority, his will, his works, etc".
There is no us or we in I.
There is no us or we in himself
Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
Isa 45:11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
Isa 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
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9. Before the Father their was no God formed, neither shall them be after him. Jesus came forth from him neither came of himself. Also the Lord God our Father gave him the kingdom of his early father David.
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
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10. Forgot to mention above; "Joh 1:2" is confirmation that the word was with God in the beginning.
In essence :John 1:2" does not say The Same was in the beginning God.
I am reminded that likely "all things were created by him, and for him: " in that context because God "hath appointed heir of all things"
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
11. But once again Creation was not authorized or the will of the Son, it was not his works, or authority. One has to look at the volume of the book
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
12. And one cannot forget the end. it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
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