Not By Works

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OneOfHis

OneOfHis

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Discern said:
I said habitual ONGOING sin. And I spoke of POSSIBILITIES, not certainties. 🙂

In other words, if I am a murderer, should I entertain the notion that I may not have been saved?
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Have you ever once or more times posted on cc under another username or account?
 
OneOfHis

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Discern said:
Not yes or no except in regards to possibility. Nowhere did I say is the person saved, yes or no? I said is it possible that they were never saved
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You asked me yes or no, I gave a full answer and explained why that sort of answer would be unfruitful. Then you chose to impute a yes or no to me. Then claimed it was not a yes or no. Then said what I just quoted after I quoted the conflicting remarks you've made.
 
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OneOfHis said:
You asked me yes or no, I gave a full answer and explained why that sort of answer would be unfruitful. Then you chose to impute a yes or no to me. Then claimed it was not a yes or no. Then said what I just quoted after I quoted the conflicting remarks you've made.
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The original question was which are possible. Some people chaffed at the first part, so I zeroed in on it

Some did not answer the question completely, so I had to zero in on the omitted part
 
OneOfHis

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Discern said:
No. Perhaps the apostle John did.
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Ok, just making it clear. By your definitions if you have ever had a previous account on cc and didn't come forward or bring what was in darkness to light, you would be living in sin and most likely unsaved.
 
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OneOfHis said:
Ok, just making it clear. By your definitions if you have ever had a previous account on cc and didn't come forward or bring what was in darkness to light, you would be living in sin and most likely unsaved.
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Fair enough.

That wouldn’t be works salvation, would it? Nope. Just indicative of the condition of my heart
 
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OneOfHis said:
Ok, just making it clear. By your definitions if you have ever had a previous account on cc and didn't come forward or bring what was in darkness to light, you would be living in sin and most likely unsaved.
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plot twist: it was mr. macaroni all along
 
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Discern said:
Fair enough.

That wouldn’t be works salvation, would it? Nope. Just indicative of the condition of my heart
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I disagree, if you were saved because of your actions it would indeed be works salvation.

If the difference between being justified before God is what you did before man it would no longer be grace.


My position is when we stand before God, if the blood of Jesus covers us we are saved.


His blood WILL cover ALL who have faith in Him.
 
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LoneGirl02 said:
I'm wondering that myself....🤔
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its an inside joke. we had one member called macabeus who big bro (thats dcontroversal for the uninitiated he is my brother) called macaroni.

that guy kept going on and on pages and pages about nothing digging through posts thousands of pages ago and putting them in his signature. its unbelievable really.
 
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OneOfHis said:
I disagree, if you were saved because of your actions it would indeed be works salvation.

If the difference between being justified before God is what you did before man it would no longer be grace.


My position is when we stand before God, if the blood of Jesus covers us we are saved.


His blood WILL cover ALL who have faith in Him.
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Never said we are saved because of our actions. That’s Cart before horse. There is a cart and there is a horse. But one goes before the other
 
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Discern said:
No, because he was a man after Gods own heart and that fact led to his sorrow for sin and amendment of his ways.

Easy
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Yet he died with multiple wives. Ie he sinned until death
 
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Melach said:
its an inside joke. we had one member called macabeus who big bro (thats dcontroversal for the uninitiated he is my brother) called macaroni.

that guy kept going on and on pages and pages about nothing digging through posts thousands of pages ago and putting them in his signature. its unbelievable really.
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Ohhhhh, ok! Thanks for the explanation 😊 Makes much sense now.
 
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