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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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OneOfHis said:
Multiple people including myself pointed to God's works in us being a much better test than a list of actions.
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How hard is it to grasp that genuine faith saves a man eternally.....there is no litmus test.....JESUS said clearly....BELIEF = eternal life/saved end of story.
 
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VCO said:
You are Picking another FIGHT.

We Like EleventhHour being here.

With your Change in Attitude, we are NOT SURE ABOUT YOU.
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I said move on from the discussion that oncefallen told us to drop. Another person fails to put a comment in its comtext
 
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dcontroversal said:
How hard is it to grasp that genuine faith saves a man eternally.....there is no litmus test.....JESUS said clearly....BELIEF = eternal life/saved end of story.
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It seems impossible to some to submit to the righteousness of Christ.... seeking to establish their own...

Not sure why people think man can pluck man out of Gods hand when scripture clearly says the opposite.
 
dcontroversal

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PS said:
Grace is irrevocable, but that is not to say it cannot be transferred from one person and given to another. See the post above yours.

Galatians 5:4 “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.”
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Nice try...no ceeeegarrrrr.........they had fallen for the same drivel you peddle.....a faith plus false gospel.....the the indication is clear....they had not lost their salvation....by selling out grace for some law keeping drivel they had willing placed themselves under a system that they cannot KEEP....get your facts straight......GALATIANS does not teach the loss of salvation....no book teaches the loss of salvation.
 
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VCO said:
You are Picking another FIGHT.

We Like EleventhHour being here.

With your Change in Attitude, we are NOT SURE ABOUT YOU.
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did you not see undergrace and one of his bringing up the argument that oncefallen said to drop? I told eleventh to move on from that. Next time, maybe read what I am replying to? And go up a couple posts to see what the context is?
 
dcontroversal

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Discern said:
I said moral sinners because that was the context as I have demonstrated

Look at the post again. Where did I accuse you of saying moral sinners. Where did I specifically say you used those words? Not there!!

Look and see
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You do understand that you are doing the same thing Macaroni did......post after post after post defending self and trying to win over the argument.......the exact same thing......

I am not gonna play your game......there are bigger fish to fry than argue over moot points......the thread can be read, let history judge.....end of story....!!
 
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dcontroversal said:
You do understand that you are doing the same thing Macaroni did......post after post after post defending self and trying to win over the argument.......the exact same thing......

I am not gonna play your game......there are bigger fish to fry than argue over moot points......the thread can be read, let history judge.....end of story....!!
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In other words, what you claim never happened. Thanks for making that clear. I won’t ask you again. You answered already
 
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Discern said:
did you not see undergrace and one of his bringing up the argument that oncefallen said to drop? I told eleventh to move on from that. Next time, maybe read what I am replying to? And go up a couple posts to see what the context is?
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UNDERGRACE.......???? <----Do explain..........we will all wait for you to explain this statement.......go ahead!
 
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dcontroversal said:
UNDERGRACE.......???? <----Do explain..........we will all wait for you to explain this statement.......go ahead!
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I figure eleventh hour is under grace. I went back to October when she said she went back to October and read the posts relating to Macaroni
under grace. Same hatred for perserverance of saints, same arguments same walking in lock step with you
 
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Discern said:
I figure eleventh hour is under grace. I went back to October when she said she went back to October and read the posts relating to Macaroni
under grace. Same hatred for perserverance of saints, same arguments same walking in lock step with you
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Yeah...ok sure!
 
dcontroversal

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Discern said:
I figure eleventh hour is under grace. I went back to October when she said she went back to October and read the posts relating to Macaroni
under grace. Same hatred for perserverance of saints, same arguments same walking in lock step with you
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So.....what gives you the right to call her Undergrace openly if that is indeed the case?
 
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