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The one seen the temporal was used as a single demonstration of the real in which the temporal shadow pointed to back to . Some called faithless did know Christ after the flesh the temporal corrupted .
Bafflegab. Jesus in the flesh was God. John 1 tells us that.

For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.Job9:32-33
Job is not talking about Jesus. I've told you that more than once already.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

The prescription of 4:18 is clarified in usage the next chapter.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Look again at the words I bolded. Christ was in the flesh, and the disciples knew Him as a flesh-and-blood human being.
 

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Another non-answer. I hope you’re getting your entertainment value out of all this because I sure am. It’s funny and sad at the same time.
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.
(Proverbs 14:7)
i hardly laugh anymore. it is, sad :cry:
 

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Why is Your apparel red,
and Your garments like one who treads in the winepress?
I have trodden the winepress alone,
and from the peoples no one with Me.
For I have trodden them in My anger,
and trampled them in My fury;
their blood is sprinkled upon My garments,
and I have stained all My robes.
(Isaiah 63:2-3)
in righteousness He judges and makes war;
His eyes like a flame of fire,
and on His head many crowns.
He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.
He, clothed with a robe dipped in blood,

and His name is called The Word of God
(Revelation 19:13)


Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh;
incontrovertible
 

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they prayed and said,
You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen
(Acts 1:24)

they prayed to the one who knows every heart

But Jesus did not commit Himself to them, because He knew all
(John 2:24)

You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men
(1 Kings 8:39)
He knew all, and had no need that anyone should testify of man, for He knew what was in man.
(John 2:24-25)
they prayed to the one who chooses

You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you
(John 15:16)

no one knows the Son except the Father,

and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.
(Matthew 11:27)
they prayed to Him because He is God having set aside His glory and added perfect humanity to Himself, God manifest in the flesh. they beheld His glory
 
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Bafflegab. Jesus in the flesh was God. John 1 tells us that.
LOL...Bafflegab eternal God is not a man as us never could be .he remains without mother or father without descent or beginning of Spirit life.


Job is not talking about Jesus. I've told you that more than once already.
For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.Neither is there any "daysman" (infalible Master as a umpire set betwen God not seen and man seen ) betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both Job 9:32-33

That's the same kind of information the Catholic must deny or repent . One master not seen God.

It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.John 6:45

I have shown you more than once Jesus refused to be called daysman or Good Master. What the Catholics call the Pope. The Son of man Jesus would not dare to stand in the holy unseen place of the glory of the Father as the abomination of desolation.

Look again at the words I bolded. Christ was in the flesh, and the disciples knew Him as a flesh-and-blood human being.
Yes he used that occasion to rebuke the disciples using Thomas to teach them "how to walk by faith" the unseen eternal and not after the temporal as to what they eyes see. (corruption)

John 20:27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.


I would offer the Spirit of Christ as the Son of God is our high Priest continually, he remains without mother and father, without beginning of Spirit life or end. Departed from his corrupted body of flesh and blood. Never to cloth himself in flesh typified as sinful forever more.

Just as we are informed in 2 Corihtinans 5:16. we walk by faith not after the flesh. The one time promised demonstration of him and the father is over.

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
 

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For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.Neither is there any "daysman" (infalible Master as a umpire set betwen God not seen and man seen ) betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both
Job was not talking about Jesus, period! Why does this simple fact elude your understanding?

I have shown you more than once Jesus refused to be called daysman or Good Master. What the Catholics call the Pope. The Son of man Jesus would not dare to standi n the holy unseen place of the glory of the Father as the abomination of desolation.
No, you haven't. You keep posting your misunderstanding of this passage, and I keep explaining the proper meaning of it to you.

Yes he used that occasion to rebuke the disciples using Thomas to teach them "how to walk by faith" the unseen eternal and not after the temporal as to what they eyes see. (corruption)

John 20:27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
What did Thomas say to Jesus right after that? "My Lord and my God"! Jesus did not correct him!

I would offer the Spirit of Christ as the Son of God is our high Priest continually, he remains without mother and father, without beginning of Spirit life or end. Departed from his corrupted body of flesh and blood. Never to cloth himself in flesh typified as sinful forever more.
You can offer your opinion all you like, but we are discussing biblical facts here. Your confused mishmash of Scripture is not Scripture.

Just as we are informed in 2 Corihtinans 5:16. we walk by faith not after the flesh. The one time promised demonstration of him and the father is over.
Yes, we walk by faith in what we cannot see. The early disciples actually saw and interacted with God in the flesh: Jesus Christ.
 
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Job was not talking about Jesus, period! Why does this simple fact elude your understanding?

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, Jesus would never stand in the place of a daysman, a fleshly infallible interpreter as Good Master that stands between eternal God not seen and temporal man seen .

Jesus as the Son of man is the same one who declared his flesh profits for zero.He dared not to stand in the place of a daysman an abomination of desolation , period . exclamation mark ! He refused to be called God the Good Master as a man. Confirming no man can serve two Good Masters . (1)The temporal things seen the corrupted And(2) the eternal not seen. . the substance of faith .

No, you haven't. You keep posting your misunderstanding of this passage, and I keep explaining the proper meaning of it to you.
You have not defined the word daysman and its uasgae . Your answer is. . "Why does this simple fact elude your understanding?"
What and whose simply fact? Yours or mine or that of another as it is written?

What did Thomas say to Jesus right after that? "My Lord and my God"! Jesus did not correct him!
He rebuked Thomas "the serial denier: for denying our Father not seen using the things seen (put finger here) to teach him how to walk by faith. Lovingly commanding Thomas not faithless, but believing

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

I think he was humbled and stood corrected having repented. Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Thomas comforted his self a form of repenting by showing agreement of the loving rebuke. . acknowlging His voice is of the unseen Lord .

That is How I understand it. looking at both the literal and unseen spiritual . I think is called mixing faith, "hearing the gospel" Hebrew 4:2

You can offer your opinion all you like, but we are discussing biblical facts here. Your confused mishmash of Scripture is not Scripture.
Or you could misunderstand mixing faith in what we see or hear and call that "confused mishmash of Scripture" The spiritual does not make the literal without effect. They work, I would think together. I would think we would look to the tool used to rightfully divide the meaning of parables seeking the approval of God not seen. He would not lovingly command us to study rightly dividing in or to seek the approval of Him not seen and then leave of as orphans with no prescription to search out the spiritual understanding that he hides from the lost..

I think the prescription below is one of the better spiritual gifts. Not that I am not bias to parables . Its not a salvation issue .

2 Corinthians 4:18While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
 

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Yes, Jesus would never stand in the place of a daysman, a fleshly infallible interpreter as Good Master that stands between eternal God not seen and temporal man seen .

Jesus as the Son of man is the same one who declared his flesh profits for zero.He dared not to stand in the place of a daysman an abomination of desolation , period . exclamation mark ! He refused to be called God the Good Master as a man. Confirming no man can serve two Good Masters . (1)The temporal things seen the corrupted And(2) the eternal not seen. . the substance of faith .
More meaningless mishmash of Scripture. The connection between Jesus and "daysman" is invalid.

You have not defined the word daysman and its uasgae . Your answer is. . "Why does this simple fact elude your understanding?"
What and whose simply fact? Yours or mine or that of another as it is written?
I don't need to define an irrelevant word. Job was not talking about Jesus; that is the fact. Do you really have such difficulty tracking a conversation?

He rebuked Thomas "the serial denier: for denying our Father not seen using the things seen (put finger here) to teach him how to walk by faith. Lovingly commanding Thomas not faithless, but believing

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.


I think he was humbled and stood corrected having repented. Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Thomas comforted his self a form of repenting by showing agreement of the loving rebuke. . acknowlging His voice is of the unseen Lord .
Here are the simple facts from Scripture: Thomas called Jesus "My Lord and my God". Jesus did not correct Thomas afterwards. If Jesus were not God, He would have corrected Thomas. You repeatedly post that Jesus denied being called "Good" but you don't see that He did not deny when He was called "God." Get some consistency!

You call Thomas a "serial denier"... for what? Scripture doesn't call him that. He declared his unwillingness to believe without visual evidence... once.
 
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More meaningless mishmash of Scripture. The connection between Jesus and "daysman" is invalid.
Meaningless mishmash of Scripture or mixing faith?.

You have yet to provide any evidence from the scriptures that eternal God who remains without mother or father ,without descent,. without beginning of Spirit life or end thereof. God is not a man as us. He is not created but the one Creator. And there is no infallible interpreter as one Good Master. Like the Pope. (the MO of the antichrists) A fleshly infallible interpreter set between us and God not seen . No way Jose .We learn from the father in the same way as the Son of man did one revealed thought at a time.. . prophecy .

Where is the witness of the word of God with all these facts you are offering. ?

Define daysman as to the context it is used.
 
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Here are the simple facts from Scripture: Thomas called Jesus "My Lord and my God". Jesus did not correct Thomas afterwards. If Jesus were not God, He would have corrected Thomas. You repeatedly post that Jesus denied being called "Good" but you don't see that He did not deny when He was called "God." Get some consistency!
The correction was before the cause of "My Lord and my God".confirmed the witness of the spirit of agreement two walking together,

Its not promoting the venerating the flesh of patron saints that follow after a daysman or Pope.

Thomas's after Jesus displayed a work of faithlessness "put your finger here" exposing Thomas's un believing heart . Thomas in repentance having been turn called Jesus "My Lord and my God" The gospel gave him the faith needed to believe God . The joy and comfort of repentance took away all unbelief and doubt so that he could walk by faith.

Never stuck his finger in Jesus side again .You, it would seem represent the same argument as a Catholic eulogizers of the flesh . God is not a man as us.Never was never could be. His Spirit cannot be cloned.

Some did know him after the flesh . Some called him Good Master after the flesh . He pointed out one is our Good Master in heaven. Call no man Good master on earth .No man can serve two Masters . Just as one is our father in heaven ,Call no man Holy Father, Good Master (a dayman) on earth.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
 

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Meaningless mishmash of Scripture or mixing faith?.

You have yet to provide any evidence from the scriptures that eternal God who remains without mother or father ,without descent,. without beginning of Spirit life or end thereof. God is not a man as us. He is not created but the one Creator. And there is no infallible interpreter as one Good Master. Like the Pope. (the MO of the antichrists) A fleshly infallible interpreter set between us and God not seen . No way Jose .We learn from the father in the same way as the Son of man did one revealed thought at a time.. . prophecy .

Where is the witness of the word of God with all these facts you are offering. ?

Define daysman as to the context it is used.
Meaningless bafflegab.

Please take a class in English so you learn how to write coherent paragraphs.
 

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The correction was before the cause of "My Lord and my God".confirmed the witness of the spirit of agreement two walking together,

Its not promoting the venerating the flesh of patron saints that follow after a daysman or Pope.

Thomas's after Jesus displayed a work of faithlessness "put your finger here" exposing Thomas's un believing heart . Thomas in repentance having been turn called Jesus "My Lord and my God" The gospel gave him the faith needed to believe God . The joy and comfort of repentance took away all unbelief and doubt so that he could walk by faith.

Never stuck his finger in Jesus side again .You, it would seem represent the same argument as a Catholic eulogizers of the flesh . God is not a man as us.Never was never could be. His Spirit cannot be cloned.

Some did know him after the flesh . Some called him Good Master after the flesh . He pointed out one is our Good Master in heaven. Call no man Good master on earth .No man can serve two Masters . Just as one is our father in heaven ,Call no man Holy Father, Good Master (a dayman) on earth.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
You're ignoring the fact that Thomas called Jesus, "My God". Deal with that specifically, without adding irrelevant bafflegab this time.
 

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behold!
A woman of Canaan came from that region and cried out to Him, saying,
“Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David! My daughter is severely demon-possessed.”
But He answered her not a word.
And His disciples came and urged Him, saying, “Send her away, for she cries out after us.”
But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!”
But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.
And she said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the little dogs eat the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.”
Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.
And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
(Matthew 15:22-28)

it is written, serve YHWH and worship Him only.
this woman worshipped Jesus.
He exclaimed how great her faith is


if Christ is not God, He is evil, because He did not rebuke her for worshiping Him.
Christ is God. the things singularly said of the Father are said of Him also.
denying this is accusing Him of evil, and of blasphemy


Q.E.D.
 

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The correction was before the cause of "My Lord and my God".confirmed the witness of the spirit of agreement two walking together,

Its not promoting the venerating the flesh of patron saints that follow after a daysman or Pope.

Thomas's after Jesus displayed a work of faithlessness "put your finger here" exposing Thomas's un believing heart . Thomas in repentance having been turn called Jesus "My Lord and my God" The gospel gave him the faith needed to believe God . The joy and comfort of repentance took away all unbelief and doubt so that he could walk by faith.

Never stuck his finger in Jesus side again .You, it would seem represent the same argument as a Catholic eulogizers of the flesh . God is not a man as us.Never was never could be. His Spirit cannot be cloned.

Some did know him after the flesh . Some called him Good Master after the flesh . He pointed out one is our Good Master in heaven. Call no man Good master on earth .No man can serve two Masters . Just as one is our father in heaven ,Call no man Holy Father, Good Master (a dayman) on earth.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
You're saying Thomas took God's name in vain like some one would curse ? I say he was calling Jesus who He is in recognition and joy ''My Lord and my God''
 
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You're saying Thomas took God's name in vain like some one would curse ? I say he was calling Jesus who He is in recognition and joy ''My Lord and my God''
I would agree a response of the work of Christ working in him the witness of God Thomas believed as he was given the faith to finish the work . My Lord MY God .The witness God did work in him with him

I am not saying Jesus is not the Christ. But defining as a offering of what I think that means .

Some did know Christ after the flesh for a short period. But seeing him did not mean God then became God, having no power to reveal himself beforehand .

Jesus the Christ as the Son of God not seen, is God.

Different uses for the different names. (1) Son of God = power .(2) Son of man = no power

I am saying our invisible God is not a man as us in any way shape or form period . We do not glorify the Son of man as if he was God. God's glory is hidden from this corrupted creation. Again God remains invisible. He has no face made up of the rudiments of this word .To seek His face is to seek his knowledge as it is written. He has no beginning. He has no form to behold. To attribute form to a invisible God in to take his name in vain .It defines the abomination of desolation. Created corruptible things in the unseen place of faith.


For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man,( like the son of man) and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.Romans 1:21-23

Jesus, a word that means "savior" therefore it does not mean man but a work performed . Christ is not man as us. He is eternal God like no other. Christ is the anointing one. The one Good Master reckoned by the things not seen, the Son of God. The power of God.

He is referred to as the one Good Master refusing to share his power with corrupted flesh and blood. Its not that some did know him after the flesh .But the one time demonstration has been over for two thousand years. .Jesus is first of the brethren Call no man on earth Good Master. Call no man on earth Father , , ,one is our Good Master our father in heaven. We therefore pray that manner .Our father in heaven we worship your name . In that way Jesus refused to be called Good Master. Giving glory to the unseen Holy Place of God's glory .

Jesus was used as a demonstration of flesh typified as sinful in order to do what the letter of the law could not. Put away the guilt of sin in the flesh by the law of faith the "unseen power" that works in the believers..

Jesus as the Son of man is not first of gods in the likeness of men .Which would be turning things upside down as that which was accredited to the hands of the apostles, when in reality God not seen performed a miracle. Men accredited the power of the healing to corrupted men called them gods in the likeness of men .Catholics call them patron saints


John 20:25-26 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

Faithless Thomas basically said; "seeing is believing"Or I am from Missouri . Mocking unbelief in mankind knowing Thomas did not believe appearing he commanded Thomas to touch him and in that work he commanded him to believe not faithless. As a response in joy having been revealed from the father like Peter in Mathew 16 not what do men say but what does God say. Thomas worshipped the Spirit of faith by acknowledging his change of heart the witness of God moving Thomas to speak . My Lord my God . God was not rewarding him for his faithlessness by saying seeing is believing. The commandment be not faithless, but believing effectively worked in Thomas' heart to both will and do the good pleasure of the father. it produced fruit as it would seem (My Lord and my God).

John 20:- And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
 
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To avoid ridicules, I am going to stop responding to individual posts but to say in basics why there is neither Trinity God nor God Jesus.



Let me begin with the OT.

!. God didn’t say through the prophets that:

  • God is Trinity (the word “trinity” doesn’t even appear in the Bible).
  • Jesus was/is or will be God
  • The H.S. is God.
  • God will become man
  • God will die for our sins
2. God foretold to save sinners by begetting, equipping and preparing the sacrificial Lamb and explained the process



Let’s move to the NT.

  • God begat the Lamb “this day”.
  • God tested “It” to prove if It was worthy” to save us from our sins. He did the wonders and miracles through “It” to prove that “It” was the sent Messiah whom He has foretold. He also told him what he were to say. We ale warned agaist adding or removing even an “iota” to/from God’s Word. We are to say exactly as it is written as Jesus and the NT writers reminded us often.
  • He said that the Father is the only true God.
  • Further, he said that his God is also our God and that his Father is also out Father (please notice that he contradicted the manipulated translation of Isa9:6) whereby multiple meaning words have been rendered out of the context.
  • Also the NT writers like Paul stated that “for us there is one God, the Father”. “Jesus is our Lord (not God)”.
2. After the sacrifice God raised the Messiah from the dead as He foretold.

5. Then God placed him on His “right hand” and gave him “all power”. Also gave him the Revelation of things to come.



I am more than happy to answer questions to any of the points above. However, I am not going to respond to something like “I herd story (one wonders who created such story) that in Isa 14 God is foretelling about the king of Babylon”. As the matter of fact, God said in verse 4 that He was talking about the king of Babylon. Please read the text before you comment on it.



Besides, I have explained why the “assumptions’ that Jesus is God supossedly supported by the NT writers are completely false. I also posted some of the fool-proof verses in post 1091 and would encourage those who rely on “stories” and assumptions to take note of them.



One more think. God doesn’t say one think at the opening of the epistle and change His mind a bit later. Then He doesn’t begin a next epistle with the original statement. Likewise, God doesn’t say that the “Word” in Jn 1:1-3 is Jesus because He has never said so. Instead, He referred to what He already delivered through prophets Like Isa 55:11, Ps33:6-9 and specifically through 2Sam 7:12.



As a former Catholic I know how difficult it is to accept the Truth because I had to go through this process myself. I was ridiculed not only by the Catholic priests but by the Evangelical pastors as well.

No wonder why I have been ridiculed by their “students” like in this forum.



So please, let’s consider the Word of God accordingly because it’s Holy. It is “Spirit”. There is promise of our salvation in It. However the promise is on God’s terms. Stories and assumptions, unfortunately are not going to secure us salvation.



God bless
 

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To avoid ridicules, I am going to stop responding to individual posts but to say in basics why there is neither Trinity God nor God Jesus.



Let me begin with the OT.

!. God didn’t say through the prophets that:

  • God is Trinity (the word “trinity” doesn’t even appear in the Bible).
  • Jesus was/is or will be God
  • The H.S. is God.
  • God will become man
  • God will die for our sins
2. God foretold to save sinners by begetting, equipping and preparing the sacrificial Lamb and explained the process



Let’s move to the NT.

  • God begat the Lamb “this day”.
  • God tested “It” to prove if It was worthy” to save us from our sins. He did the wonders and miracles through “It” to prove that “It” was the sent Messiah whom He has foretold. He also told him what he were to say. We ale warned agaist adding or removing even an “iota” to/from God’s Word. We are to say exactly as it is written as Jesus and the NT writers reminded us often.
  • He said that the Father is the only true God.
  • Further, he said that his God is also our God and that his Father is also out Father (please notice that he contradicted the manipulated translation of Isa9:6) whereby multiple meaning words have been rendered out of the context.
  • Also the NT writers like Paul stated that “for us there is one God, the Father”. “Jesus is our Lord (not God)”.
2. After the sacrifice God raised the Messiah from the dead as He foretold.

5. Then God placed him on His “right hand” and gave him “all power”. Also gave him the Revelation of things to come.



I am more than happy to answer questions to any of the points above. However, I am not going to respond to something like “I herd story (one wonders who created such story) that in Isa 14 God is foretelling about the king of Babylon”. As the matter of fact, God said in verse 4 that He was talking about the king of Babylon. Please read the text before you comment on it.



Besides, I have explained why the “assumptions’ that Jesus is God supossedly supported by the NT writers are completely false. I also posted some of the fool-proof verses in post 1091 and would encourage those who rely on “stories” and assumptions to take note of them.



One more think. God doesn’t say one think at the opening of the epistle and change His mind a bit later. Then He doesn’t begin a next epistle with the original statement. Likewise, God doesn’t say that the “Word” in Jn 1:1-3 is Jesus because He has never said so. Instead, He referred to what He already delivered through prophets Like Isa 55:11, Ps33:6-9 and specifically through 2Sam 7:12.



As a former Catholic I know how difficult it is to accept the Truth because I had to go through this process myself. I was ridiculed not only by the Catholic priests but by the Evangelical pastors as well.

No wonder why I have been ridiculed by their “students” like in this forum.



So please, let’s consider the Word of God accordingly because it’s Holy. It is “Spirit”. There is promise of our salvation in It. However the promise is on God’s terms. Stories and assumptions, unfortunately are not going to secure us salvation.



God bless
I don’t think anyone really cares for this anymore. You kind of ran this ship aground.
 

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According to the OT the Father is LORD.
Accurate titles but wasn't according to those of the OT, God's name was unpronounceable and basically impersonal ?

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Isaiah 49:16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.