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EleventhHour

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The modern Pharisee theme song...

I thank God I am not like this man
Sin I don't and full of GLEE
I keep the law and walk on light
Sin I don't by my own might

Jesus helps me partially stay
Within the ranks of religious fray
I in my might can help him win
Because like this other man, I never sin

I keep the sabbath rest oh sure
I am my keeper and my heart is pure
Jesus helped me now I do the rest
Because I am a Pharisee that does his best

Encore, encore

Wow ....this is excellent!!
 
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Amen. Have nice evening. I hope and pray that someday you admit to your ill behavior and repent. Not only are you a bad testimony to and of Christ. On the day of His coming you are going to be quite surprised apparently. May the LORD have mercy on us all.

Have a nice evening baiting people to act in the ill manner that you do.
Opposing false teaching.....I have no problem bowing before my LORD and Savior because unlike YOU I actually TRUST HIM and HAVE FAITH in his word pal......I POINT to him 100% and give him ALL glory....and we will see.....the difference between you and I......I believe JESUS keeps me by his power and i give ALL glory to him as a SINNER saved by grace...YOU on the other hand STEAL that glory when you elevate your own self effort!!!

MAKE no mistake dude
 
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So wonder which ALTER EGO we have back now spamming the thread.......these guys are like roaches in the local corner hot dog stand.....turn the lights on and they scatter every where and come out of the wood work like wood roaches in a rotten log
 

CherieR

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The modern Pharisee theme song...

I thank God I am not like this man
Sin I don't and full of GLEE
I keep the law and walk on light
Sin I don't by my own might

Jesus helps me partially stay
Within the ranks of religious fray
I in my might can help him win
Because like this other man, I never sin

I keep the sabbath rest oh sure
I am my keeper and my heart is pure
Jesus helped me now I do the rest
Because I am a Pharisee that does his best

Encore, encore

Wow ....this is excellent!!
Wow, did you come up with that poem. Very creative! :D
 
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Yes I see it now. That was pretty good.

Look.....I genuinely do pray for all people, but I absolutely despise any dogma that devalues JESUS, diminishes JESUS, his power, his promises, his word, his eternal gift of salvation by interjecting self, self effort, works, some law keeping drivel or some religious hoop jumping......
 

CherieR

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Look.....I genuinely do pray for all people, but I absolutely despise any dogma that devalues JESUS, diminishes JESUS, his power, his promises, his word, his eternal gift of salvation by interjecting self, self effort, works, some law keeping drivel or some religious hoop jumping......
I meant it as a compliment. I liked your poem. It was very creative.
 

CherieR

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Look.....I genuinely do pray for all people, but I absolutely despise any dogma that devalues JESUS, diminishes JESUS, his power, his promises, his word, his eternal gift of salvation by interjecting self, self effort, works, some law keeping drivel or some religious hoop jumping......
I don't like that kind of dogma either because it encourages insecurity and fear in one's relationship with God. That should not be so. Rather we are to be confident and trusting in God.
 

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HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA I just realised.....the bolded....same crap the Pharisees accused JESUS of.......tells me all I need to know concerning who you serve....!
Yep the lost religious Pharisees accused JESUS of

a. Being a drunk
b. Having a devil
c. Doing evil work

We can all see that Lightbar is a Pharisee by his doctrine and he accuses of the same things the Pharisees of old accused of....like father like son
and don't forget, the Pharisees were also on Jesus's case about Sabbath issues, just like lightbearer is a Sabbath pusher...
 

VCO

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So wonder which ALTER EGO we have back now spamming the thread.......these guys are like roaches in the local corner hot dog stand.....turn the lights on and they scatter every where and come out of the wood work like wood roaches in a rotten log

Looks like we got another Red-X Major, but a Different MO. So he may not be our HATE ALL PROTESTANT Posters.

I guess they do not KNOW, it makes them LOOK BAD.
 

VCO

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You know I'm right. ;)
Deep down, you know I'm right.
Osas is the doctrine that has to make it so that many scriptures do not actually mean what they say.

WRONG!

You are the one that Changes the MEANING of so Many Verses.

Here are the VERSES, that most of us OSAS Believers actually believe literally, and you change the meaning of most of them:

2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.


Titus 3:5-7 (HCSB)
5 He saved usnot by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
6 He poured out this ⌊Spirit⌋ on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that having been justified by His grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.

Romans 4:4-5 (NET)
4 Now to the one who works, his pay is not credited due to grace but due to obligation.
5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous, his faith is credited as righteousness.

Ephesians 2:4-5 (HCSB)
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love that He had for us,
5 made us alive with the Messiah even though we were dead in trespasses. You are saved by grace!

Ephesians 2:8-9 (NJB)
8 Because it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith; not by anything of your own, but by a gift from God;
9 not by anything that you have done, so that nobody can claim the credit.

Romans 5:8-11 (HCSB)
8 But God proves His own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us!
9 Much more then, since we have now been declared righteous by His blood, we will be saved through Him from wrath.
10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, ⌊then how⌋ much more, having been reconciled, will we be saved by His life!
11 And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ. We have now received this reconciliation through Him.

1 Peter 1:3-5 (HCSB)
3 Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to His great mercy, He has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
4 and into an inheritance that is imperishable, uncorrupted, and unfading, kept in heaven for you.
5 You are being protected by God’s power through faith for a salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

Romans 11:6 (NASB)
6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

Philippians 1:6 (HCSB)
6 I am sure of this, that He who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

2 Corinthians 3:5 (HCSB)
5 ⌊It is⌋ not that we are competent in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our competence is from God.

Philippians 2:13 (HCSB)
13 For it is God who is working in you, ⌊enabling you⌋ both to desire and to work out His good purpose.

Ephesians 1:11-14 (HCSB)
11 We have also received an inheritance in Him, predestined according to the purpose of the One who works out everything in agreement with the decision of His will,
12 so that we who had already put our hope in the Messiah might bring praise to His glory.
13 When you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation [Past Tense], and when you believed in Him [Long before you can do your first work, so Obedience is Part of your Agape Love, that you do after you are SAVED.], you were also sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.
14 He is the down payment of our inheritance, for the redemption of the possession, to the praise of His glory.

2 Timothy 2:19 (ESV)
19 But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.”

John 10:27-28 (HCSB)
27 My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever!
No one will snatch them out of My hand.


2 John 1:2 (HCSB)
2 because of the truth that remains in us and will be with us forever.

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We teach that Obedience has NEVER been part of Salvation, HOWEVER, Obedience is part of Our AGAPE LOVE, Rom. 5:5.


John 14:15 (HCSB)
15 “If you love Me [Born Again], you will keep [out of the AGAPE LOVE, HE poured into our hearts, or our human spirit] My commands.

1 John 5:3 (HCSB)
3 For this is what love for God is: to keep His commands. Now His commands are not a burden,



Only Obedience that is done out of Agape LOVE, is accepted by GOD. It has NOTHING to do with SALVATION or maintaining it.

1 John 3:14-19 (HCSB)
14 We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers. The one who does not love remains in death.
15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
16 This is how we have come to know love: He laid down His life for us. We should also lay down our lives for our brothers.
17 If anyone has this world’s goods and sees his brother in need but closes his eyes to his ⌊need⌋—how can God’s love reside in him?

18 Little children, we must not love with word or speech, but with truth and action.
19 This is how we will know we belong to the truth and will convince our conscience in His presence,



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He would be too busy stopping his ears to the truth like the Pharisees that stoned Stephen to death
I don't get how you can speak of yourself like this. Actually I need to be honest and say that I understand.
Grace enables us to do One thing needful. Forgetting our fantasy of reality in pride of achievement, to become vulnerable to the Love of God and become real. An inner Journey of intimacy with God. Many who say not by works are still bound in pride of achievement, quarreling with those who would encourage them to go on to perfection.
 
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I don't get how you can speak of yourself like this. Actually I need to be honest and say that I understand.
Grace enables us to do One thing needful. Forgetting our fantasy of reality in pride of achievement, to become vulnerable to the Love of God and become real. An inner Journey of intimacy with God. Many who say not by works are still bound in pride of achievement, quarreling with those who would encourage them to go on to perfection.
Read the thread, get your facts straight then open your mouth.....!!!
 
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I am saying no Jews during the time of acts will be taught that, Nor will they be allowed to be dead to the law.

Put yourself in their shoes and you will understand what I was trying to say
But you were trying to say they won't be taught that because they really aren't dead to the law, and only the gentiles are dead to the law.