Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly Multiple Personality Disorder) and Faith.

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Feb 22, 2020
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Hello friends :)

My name is Ava, and I am a member of what's known as a Dissociative Identity Disorder system. This means I am one of multiple people, known as alters, who exist within this body. This can only occur when a child experiences ongoing and extreme trauma, and the brain fragments into separate identities, with separate memories and attributes, as a protective measure. We can each control the body at various times. We have different names, genders, sexualities, interests, glasses prescriptions, reactions to medications, dominant hands, allergies, and beliefs. Obviously we aren't literally different people, we are manifestations of the needs of one brain, but to us it feels like we are different people, so I refer to us as such.

I am what's known as an emotional protector and a caretaker. I look after the wellbeing of the other alters, I take care of the body when the host (the one who fronts the most) is unable to, I look after any alters who are struggling, I act as a parent to child alters and I front to calm the system down in situations of high stress or when the others are struggling with trauma.

I am not the "main" alter. If an original exists I am not it. I in fact did not exist as an alter until fairly recently in comparison to the rest of the system (once the brain has learned to split in childhood, it can continue to do so even into adulthood in response to new traumas). I am, however, the only currently active alter who is Christian. The rest range from disinterest to active dislike of Christianity, especially as some hold memories of trauma perpetuated by religious institutions or by people wielding religion as a weapon. I do not know what occurred, but I am told it was bad enough that simply being in a church or being ministered to will trigger flashbacks.

My question is this: what happens when we die? Do we all go to hell, because the others reject God? Do we all go to heaven, pulled there by my faith? Might we have separate souls, and each go to heaven or hell accordingly?

Note: I am happy to answer any questions you may have in regards to DID or our system.

Note 2: I am not looking for medical advice, so please do not try to tell me how to "cure" DID. Full integration is not an option for us and is generally considered unsafe. Any comments referring to us as demons will be ignored. Converting the others is not really an option here, when I try it triggers flashbacks.

Thank you and God bless you for any perspectives you can give :)
 

blue_ladybug

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Umm, not quite sure how to approach this but here goes.. :unsure:

The person who you reside in, has a soul. You and the other alters do not. So when the person dies, her soul will go to heaven if she is saved. NO, you alters do not each have a soul, only the flesh and blood person you inhabit does. God does not recognize the alters of those with DID as people, He only recognizes the person that is being inhabited..
 
Feb 22, 2020
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Umm, not quite sure how to approach this but here goes.. :unsure:

The person who you reside in, has a soul. You and the other alters do not. So when the person dies, her soul will go to heaven if she is saved. NO, you alters do not each have a soul, only the flesh and blood person you inhabit does. God does not recognize the alters of those with DID as people, He only recognizes the person that is being inhabited..
There really isn't a person "being inhabited". Systems aren't one real person and a bunch of fake people inhabiting or possessing them, it's one person fragmented into multiple identities. These fragments can come and go, some can be more three dimensional than the others, some front more than others, some might identify more with the identity of the body, but we're all the original person, just split into many.
 

blue_ladybug

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Sorry. :) It's just that we've never had a post quite like this on here before.. Maybe you could clarify something for me. Is YOUR name Ava, or is Ava the actual person who registered on CC?

Let me try again to answer your questions. :) This actual person has a soul. You and the other alters do not, because you're not real people. So when this actual person dies, she will go to heaven if she is saved. You and the alters will simply cease to exist once she is dead.. A soul cannot fragment into pieces, and get shared among this person's alters.
 
Feb 22, 2020
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Sorry. :) It's just that we've never had a post quite like this on here before.. Maybe you could clarify something for me. Is YOUR name Ava, or is Ava the actual person who registered on CC?

Let me try again to answer your questions. :) This actual person has a soul. You and the other alters do not, because you're not real people. So when this actual person dies, she will go to heaven if she is saved. You and the alters will simply cease to exist once she is dead.. A soul cannot fragment into pieces, and get shared among this person's alters.
I am Ava, and I made this account. As I said, the rest are not Christian and would have no interest in a forum like this.

There is no "actual person", and then some alters who are fake people. We are a single person, whose brain is fragmented, and each of these fragments has taken up an identity. None of us are any more real than the others. None of us are "the real one" or anything. If you drop a cup and it shatters, no one piece is the real cup, and the other pieces aren't fake bits of ceramic. Each piece is a fragment of the original cup, none more or less real than any other. Even if the soul cannot fragment, our mind has fragmented. I don't know what that means for where we go upon death.
 

UnoiAmarah

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My question is this: what happens when we die? Do we all go to hell, because the others reject God? Do we all go to heaven, pulled there by my faith? Might we have separate souls, and each go to heaven or hell accordingly?
I think you answered your own question.
Obviously we aren't literally different people, we are manifestations of the needs of one brain, but to us it feels like we are different people, so I refer to us as such.
 

notuptome

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God created all people with one body, one soul and one spirit. God did not create people with multiple personalities. Upon death of the body the soul returns to God. After death is judgment. One time not multiple times.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Magenta

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Hello friends :)

My name is Ava, and I am a member of what's known as a Dissociative Identity Disorder system.

My question is this: what happens when we die? Do we all go to hell, because the others reject God? Do we all go to heaven, pulled there by my faith? Might we have separate souls, and each go to heaven or hell accordingly?
There is absolutely nothing in Scripture to suggest that one person is or can be more than one soul. You ARE a living soul. That you have multiple personalities would seem immaterial in this regard.









:)
 

JohnRH

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We are a single person ....
You're contradicting yourself: "we are" is plural and "a single person" is singular.

You sound like one of these law-breaking "sovereign citizen" types who almost always end up in jail.
 

GaryA

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Ava,

Do you and the other alters actually talk to each other - as in, have conversations?
 
Feb 22, 2020
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You're contradicting yourself: "we are" is plural and "a single person" is singular.

You sound like one of these law-breaking "sovereign citizen" types who almost always end up in jail.
I have already explained in my post "but we feel like different people so that's how I refer to us"

And I don't believe that describes us at all... Very strange comment to make
 

GaryA

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Ava,

How do you first recognize an alter you have never talked to before?
 
Feb 22, 2020
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Ava,

How do you first recognize an alter you have never talked to before?
Typically in our system new alters will not front right away, so we will usually find them in the inner world, which is a shared imaginary space.
 

GaryA

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Typically in our system new alters will not front right away, so we will usually find them in the inner world, which is a shared imaginary space.
But, how does that work? How do you "find" them? How do they "appear"?

Why do you call it an 'imaginary' space?
 

HeraldtheNews

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Ava, many people have suffered such trauma and can be helped through counseling, and prayer teamwork. But, something like that requires trained and experienced Christian counseling. You are one spiritual being, not many, and you are whole in Christ. The things you are saying, may or may not represent reality as God sees you. The Lord is shepherd of souls, and knows where all the pieces of the puzzle are and where they need to be. One command of Christ, such as "be whole.". Made by the right Christian leader or team can restore you to who you already are.

One time in my youth, a coffee cup with my sisters name on it broke into many pieces. As a sign of my enduring love for a dear sister, inspite of our differences, I fastened each piece, dozens of them back together, and handed her the whole cup to her total amazement!

One name. Dozens of scattered ceramics. Restored whole to the same earthen vessel.

That was a sign from God of what divine intervention can do to restore each person whole.
In Jesus Name.
May this be so for all who read this according to the will of God.
 
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There is absolutely nothing in Scripture to suggest that one person is or can be more than one soul. You ARE a living soul. That you have multiple personalities would seem immaterial in this regard.









:)
what about Mary called Magdalene
 
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Hello friends :)

My name is Ava, and I am a member of what's known as a Dissociative Identity Disorder system. This means I am one of multiple people, known as alters, who exist within this body. This can only occur when a child experiences ongoing and extreme trauma, and the brain fragments into separate identities, with separate memories and attributes, as a protective measure. We can each control the body at various times. We have different names, genders, sexualities, interests, glasses prescriptions, reactions to medications, dominant hands, allergies, and beliefs. Obviously we aren't literally different people, we are manifestations of the needs of one brain, but to us it feels like we are different people, so I refer to us as such.

I am what's known as an emotional protector and a caretaker. I look after the wellbeing of the other alters, I take care of the body when the host (the one who fronts the most) is unable to, I look after any alters who are struggling, I act as a parent to child alters and I front to calm the system down in situations of high stress or when the others are struggling with trauma.

I am not the "main" alter. If an original exists I am not it. I in fact did not exist as an alter until fairly recently in comparison to the rest of the system (once the brain has learned to split in childhood, it can continue to do so even into adulthood in response to new traumas). I am, however, the only currently active alter who is Christian. The rest range from disinterest to active dislike of Christianity, especially as some hold memories of trauma perpetuated by religious institutions or by people wielding religion as a weapon. I do not know what occurred, but I am told it was bad enough that simply being in a church or being ministered to will trigger flashbacks.

My question is this: what happens when we die? Do we all go to hell, because the others reject God? Do we all go to heaven, pulled there by my faith? Might we have separate souls, and each go to heaven or hell accordingly?

Note: I am happy to answer any questions you may have in regards to DID or our system.

Note 2: I am not looking for medical advice, so please do not try to tell me how to "cure" DID. Full integration is not an option for us and is generally considered unsafe. Any comments referring to us as demons will be ignored. Converting the others is not really an option here, when I try it triggers flashbacks.

Thank you and God bless you for any perspectives you can give :)
do you know the names of the others? how many are there?
 

Whispered

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Hello friends :)

My name is Ava, and I am a member of what's known as a Dissociative Identity Disorder system. This means I am one of multiple people, known as alters, who exist within this body. This can only occur when a child experiences ongoing and extreme trauma, and the brain fragments into separate identities, with separate memories and attributes, as a protective measure. We can each control the body at various times. We have different names, genders, sexualities, interests, glasses prescriptions, reactions to medications, dominant hands, allergies, and beliefs. Obviously we aren't literally different people, we are manifestations of the needs of one brain, but to us it feels like we are different people, so I refer to us as such.

I am what's known as an emotional protector and a caretaker. I look after the wellbeing of the other alters, I take care of the body when the host (the one who fronts the most) is unable to, I look after any alters who are struggling, I act as a parent to child alters and I front to calm the system down in situations of high stress or when the others are struggling with trauma.

I am not the "main" alter. If an original exists I am not it. I in fact did not exist as an alter until fairly recently in comparison to the rest of the system (once the brain has learned to split in childhood, it can continue to do so even into adulthood in response to new traumas). I am, however, the only currently active alter who is Christian. The rest range from disinterest to active dislike of Christianity, especially as some hold memories of trauma perpetuated by religious institutions or by people wielding religion as a weapon. I do not know what occurred, but I am told it was bad enough that simply being in a church or being ministered to will trigger flashbacks.

My question is this: what happens when we die? Do we all go to hell, because the others reject God? Do we all go to heaven, pulled there by my faith? Might we have separate souls, and each go to heaven or hell accordingly?

Note: I am happy to answer any questions you may have in regards to DID or our system.

Note 2: I am not looking for medical advice, so please do not try to tell me how to "cure" DID. Full integration is not an option for us and is generally considered unsafe. Any comments referring to us as demons will be ignored. Converting the others is not really an option here, when I try it triggers flashbacks.

Thank you and God bless you for any perspectives you can give :)
Firstly,
. Thank you for feeling you are safe here in our community and sharing about your troubles. May God watch over you.

We find in the Old Testament book of Ecclesiastes chapter 12, this: (All people are like unto dust, and Gods breath imbues us with a soul and a spirit *silver cord* so that we are ever linked to our source. "Sin", is like unto a veil that falls between our conscious awareness of that and the God who knows.Just for reference so that you may better understand the passage below.)
6.before the silver cord is snapped
the bowl of gold is cracked,
the pitcher is shattered at the spring,
the pulley is broken at the cistern,

7 the dust returns to earth, as it was,
and the spirit returns to God, who gave it!
8 Pointless! Meaningless! — says Kohelet,

Nothing matters at all!

God knows all things eternally. God is a God of love and mercy. I will tell you do not worry about being sent to Hell because of your challenge with alters. God will not damn you for what He knows you suffer. Trust in Him with all your heart and mind. He is the great healer, the eternally powerful physician who needs no prescriptions, no therapy couch, no labels, so as to know who among His creation needs Him. Pray for strength and for healing from your troubles. God is always there, always listening. And He is more powerful than anything that may think to do you harm.
Psalm 34:17-20
When the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears and delivers them out of all their troubles. The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit. Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them all. He keeps all his bones; not one of them is broken.

God Bless You. (GBY)