Sinners/Luke Warm Christians You Can Stop Sinning You Just Don’t Want 2!!

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God say’s in Deu 30:11 my commandments are not far from you!! The Hebrew meaning for “not far from you” means its not beyond your ability.

1 corinth 10:13 you will not be tempted above ur measure but rather God will always give you an escape so u can bear it.


God doesn’t command the impossible, our moral obligations never exceed our abilities. God doesn’t send people 2 hell 4 wat they couldn’t avoid, he sends them 2 hell 4 wat they could have avoided, God knows the intents of the heart jeremiah 17:10 2 chron 28:9 he knows all the thoughts and imaginations of man, so he knows wat your capable of.


After all it would be unfair and unjust 2 send people 2 hell for the unavoidable. Phil 4:13 I can do all things thru Christ who strengthens me!! Cant jesus give you the power 2 stop sinning if u learn on him.


Matt 11:28-30 come 2 me you who are heavy laden and I’ll give u rest, my yoke is easy and my burden is light!!


Also wat situations are u putting urslef in that’s causing u 2 sin? Bible says 2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.


If something or someone is causing u 2 sin come out from among them or it, why create a stumbling block 4 urslef rom 9:30-33


What sin is so strong dat u cant fight off!! Doesn’t the bible say in Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Luke 21:36 pray dat you can escape the snares of dis world!! Wont God answer the prayers of those who seek him early proverbs 8:7 and pray continually 2 him Ephesians 6:18.

Isn’t the spirit willing but the flesh weak matt 26:41 and doesn’t it say if you walk in the spirit u wont fulfil the lusts of the flesh gal 5:16

Canal nature 1 pet 2:24
 
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EleventhHour

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God say’s in Deu 30:11 my commandments are not far from you!! The Hebrew meaning for “not far from you” means its not beyond your ability.

1 corinth 10:13 you will not be tempted above ur measure but rather God will always give you an escape so u can bear it.


God doesn’t command the impossible, our moral obligations never exceed our abilities. God doesn’t send people 2 hell 4 wat they couldn’t avoid, he sends them 2 hell 4 wat they could have avoided, God knows the intents of the heart jeremiah 17:10 2 chron 28:9 he knows all the thoughts and imaginations of man, so he knows wat your capable of.


After all it would be unfair and unjust 2 send people 2 hell for the unavoidable. Phil 4:13 I can do all things thru Christ who strengthens me!! Cant jesus give you the power 2 stop sinning if u learn on him.


Matt 11:28-30 come 2 me you who are heavy laden and I’ll give u rest, my yoke is easy and my burden is light!!


Also wat situations are u putting urslef in that’s causing u 2 sin? Bible says 2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.


If something or someone is causing u 2 sin come out from among them or it, why create a stumbling block 4 urslef rom 9:30-33


What sin is so strong dat u cant fight off!! Doesn’t the bible say in Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Luke 21:36 pray dat you can escape the snares of dis world!! Wont God answer the prayers of those who seek him early proverbs 8:7 and pray continually 2 him Ephesians 6:18.

Isn’t the spirit willing but the flesh weak matt 26:41 and doesn’t it say if you walk in the spirit u wont fulfil the lusts of the flesh gal 5:16

Canal nature 1 pet 2:24
It is spelled "you" and "that" and "two"

I hope this helps.

Let us know when you stop sinning, are perfect, complete and have become Jesus Christ.

In the meantime you may want to work on perfecting your spelling.
 
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It is spelled "you" and "that" and "two"

I hope this helps.

Let us know when you stop sinning, are perfect, complete and have become Jesus Christ.

In the meantime you may want to work on perfecting your spelling.
And stop espousing false doctrine, which is also sin.
 
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God doesn’t command the impossible
Of course He does. We can not save ourselves. This is a work of God's Grace in us. We can not be double minded. "That man should not expect to receive anything from the Lord." (James 1:7)
 

Dino246

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It is spelled "you" and "that" and "two"

I hope this helps.

Let us know when you stop sinning, are perfect, complete and have become Jesus Christ.

In the meantime you may want to work on perfecting your spelling.
I say let him continue to write in Trollish. It makes his tripe easier to ignore.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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There is no such thing as "CANal nature"..
You have never lived near a canal. There is actually quite a bit of nature even around urban canals. I used to sit on the balcony at night and watch fish swim over the lights on the bottom of the canal where I used to live. It was cool to watch egrets fishing too.
 

Roughsoul1991

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God say’s in Deu 30:11 my commandments are not far from you!! The Hebrew meaning for “not far from you” means its not beyond your ability.

1 corinth 10:13 you will not be tempted above ur measure but rather God will always give you an escape so u can bear it.


God doesn’t command the impossible, our moral obligations never exceed our abilities. God doesn’t send people 2 hell 4 wat they couldn’t avoid, he sends them 2 hell 4 wat they could have avoided, God knows the intents of the heart jeremiah 17:10 2 chron 28:9 he knows all the thoughts and imaginations of man, so he knows wat your capable of.


After all it would be unfair and unjust 2 send people 2 hell for the unavoidable. Phil 4:13 I can do all things thru Christ who strengthens me!! Cant jesus give you the power 2 stop sinning if u learn on him.


Matt 11:28-30 come 2 me you who are heavy laden and I’ll give u rest, my yoke is easy and my burden is light!!


Also wat situations are u putting urslef in that’s causing u 2 sin? Bible says 2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.


If something or someone is causing u 2 sin come out from among them or it, why create a stumbling block 4 urslef rom 9:30-33


What sin is so strong dat u cant fight off!! Doesn’t the bible say in Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Luke 21:36 pray dat you can escape the snares of dis world!! Wont God answer the prayers of those who seek him early proverbs 8:7 and pray continually 2 him Ephesians 6:18.

Isn’t the spirit willing but the flesh weak matt 26:41 and doesn’t it say if you walk in the spirit u wont fulfil the lusts of the flesh gal 5:16

Canal nature 1 pet 2:24
Very interesting. Let us cross examine this for a moment.

God say’s in Deu 30:11 my commandments are not far from you!! The Hebrew meaning for “not far from you” means its not beyond your ability.
In Deu 30:11 this is speaking to the Israelites. So was it by their ability alone that caused them to be seen as righteous or blameless? Was they able to keep the whole law? I seem to remember
1 John 1:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

1 corinth 10:13 you will not be tempted above ur measure but rather God will always give you an escape so u can bear it.
Agreed if we choose God over the flesh. If one falls into sin that doesn't mean they are not Christian. It simply is the evident reality of the Spirit vs Flesh daily battle.

God knows the intents of the heart
Bingo. This is the true determining factor. We are imperfect beings as to why Jesus was as the escape goat on our behalf. We are not sinless but blemishless. Not perfect but seen as righteous. We are justified only by faith in Christ.

Cant jesus give you the power 2 stop sinning if u learn on him.
Of course but only if one could 100% 24/7 be obedient to Jesus. Our flesh is weak but our Spirit is willing. A willing Spirit is always there to help but our flesh struggles with emotions, physical struggles like hunger, exhaustion, mental sins, chemical reactions like hormones, release of Dopamine, or outside influences that cause spontaneous reactions. Our flesh is weak but in faith we are seen as righteous.

What sin is so strong dat u cant fight off!! Doesn’t the bible say in Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Also true but is this a one time thing or daily thing? Satan and his demonic forces are also at work. Again in obedience we can live the truths of scripture. This is why we constantly have to train the flesh and keep it in line. Not to reach perfection on Earth but through a process called justification and sanctification. We only reach perfection on the day of glorification once we pass on into Heaven.

Isn’t the spirit willing but the flesh weak matt 26:41 and doesn’t it say if you walk in the spirit u wont fulfil the lusts of the flesh gal 5:16
Again the Christian walk on Earth is a journey not a destination. We keep walking in faith until life has left us. Then we only move locations to begin another eternal journey. I have never met a sinless Christian. The only man I know was Jesus Christ.
 
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Very interesting. Let us cross examine this for a moment.



In Deu 30:11 this is speaking to the Israelites. So was it by their ability alone that caused them to be seen as righteous or blameless? Was they able to keep the whole law? I seem to remember
1 John 1:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.



Agreed if we choose God over the flesh. If one falls into sin that doesn't mean they are not Christian. It simply is the evident reality of the Spirit vs Flesh daily battle.



Bingo. This is the true determining factor. We are imperfect beings as to why Jesus was as the escape goat on our behalf. We are not sinless but blemishless. Not perfect but seen as righteous. We are justified only by faith in Christ.



Of course but only if one could 100% 24/7 be obedient to Jesus. Our flesh is weak but our Spirit is willing. A willing Spirit is always there to help but our flesh struggles with emotions, physical struggles like hunger, exhaustion, mental sins, chemical reactions like hormones, release of Dopamine, or outside influences that cause spontaneous reactions. Our flesh is weak but in faith we are seen as righteous.



Also true but is this a one time thing or daily thing? Satan and his demonic forces are also at work. Again in obedience we can live the truths of scripture. This is why we constantly have to train the flesh and keep it in line. Not to reach perfection on Earth but through a process called justification and sanctification. We only reach perfection on the day of glorification once we pass on into Heaven.



Again the Christian walk on Earth is a journey not a destination. We keep walking in faith until life has left us. Then we only move locations to begin another eternal journey. I have never met a sinless Christian. The only man I know was Jesus Christ.
There is no christian journey if you have not reached the end point first.

In my end is my beginning.
 
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"For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. " Romans 6:14

"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20

"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith." Galatians 3:24

"For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:8-9

"For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified." Hebrews 10:14

"For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it." James 2:10

In summary, we know of sin because the knowledge of sin comes from knowledge of the law. The law taught us what sin is, but what are not justified by how well we keep the letter of the law. We are justified by faith in Christ, not law-keeping and good works, because no one is perfect enough to keep the law since even one minor transgression is enough for condemnation. Therefore, salvation comes as a free gift for all of those who believe in Christ as their Lord and Savior which is what God ordained. Now that you are a believer in Christ, His single offering (crucifixion) has perfected you for all time in God's eyes and now in the life which you live as a person, you live by faith, because Christ now lives in you.

This is no "free pass" to sin. The Bible never says there is a free pass to sin. Hebrews 10:14 says that we are being sanctified and the born again believer will have a natural inclination to shun sin and do what is right. This comes from a place of our love and gratitude to God for saving us. Regardless, people are sinning just fine without a free pass of any sort. Anything that is not of faith is a sin. So either you're under the law of love, grace, and faith or you're under the letter of the law. I chose Jesus as savior, do you?
 
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God say’s in Deu 30:11 my commandments are not far from you!! The Hebrew meaning for “not far from you” means its not beyond your ability.

1 corinth 10:13 you will not be tempted above ur measure but rather God will always give you an escape so u can bear it.


God doesn’t command the impossible, our moral obligations never exceed our abilities. God doesn’t send people 2 hell 4 wat they couldn’t avoid, he sends them 2 hell 4 wat they could have avoided, God knows the intents of the heart jeremiah 17:10 2 chron 28:9 he knows all the thoughts and imaginations of man, so he knows wat your capable of.


After all it would be unfair and unjust 2 send people 2 hell for the unavoidable. Phil 4:13 I can do all things thru Christ who strengthens me!! Cant jesus give you the power 2 stop sinning if u learn on him.


Matt 11:28-30 come 2 me you who are heavy laden and I’ll give u rest, my yoke is easy and my burden is light!!


Also wat situations are u putting urslef in that’s causing u 2 sin? Bible says 2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.


If something or someone is causing u 2 sin come out from among them or it, why create a stumbling block 4 urslef rom 9:30-33


What sin is so strong dat u cant fight off!! Doesn’t the bible say in Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Luke 21:36 pray dat you can escape the snares of dis world!! Wont God answer the prayers of those who seek him early proverbs 8:7 and pray continually 2 him Ephesians 6:18.

Isn’t the spirit willing but the flesh weak matt 26:41 and doesn’t it say if you walk in the spirit u wont fulfil the lusts of the flesh gal 5:16

Canal nature 1 pet 2:24
Some sins are willingly done but some things will that ARE sins are not Intentional ,neverthless they are sins how do you stop those sins?
 

blue_ladybug

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You have never lived near a canal. There is actually quite a bit of nature even around urban canals. I used to sit on the balcony at night and watch fish swim over the lights on the bottom of the canal where I used to live. It was cool to watch egrets fishing too.
Loco, for the last 23 years I have lived literally ON a river. Seriously, the foundation of this building is built INTO the river. On a daily basis, I see a plethora of wildlife, ranging from ducks and loons, to river rats, otters, beavers, Canadian geese, etc.

Pick any animal, I've probably seen it here on the river. And, I might add, I'm smack dab in the middle of a busy city..
 

blue_ladybug

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Loco, for the last 23 years I have lived literally ON a river. Seriously, the foundation of this building is built INTO the river. On a daily basis, I see a plethora of wildlife, ranging from ducks and loons, to river rats, otters, beavers, Canadian geese, etc.

Pick any animal, I've probably seen it here on the river. And, I might add, I'm smack dab in the middle of a busy city..
Speaking of wildlife, I saw two river rats nonchalantly walking across the bridge yesterday morning. Not a normal sight for a busy city, but it's happened more than once. And these suckers were GINORMOUS..
 

Dino246

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Speaking of wildlife, I saw two river rats nonchalantly walking across the bridge yesterday morning. Not a normal sight for a busy city, but it's happened more than once. And these suckers were GINORMOUS..
Lunch!

Well, for something. I'll have a sandwich, and pass on the ratatouille. ;)
 

Roughsoul1991

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There is no christian journey if you have not reached the end point first.

In my end is my beginning.
Life from physical to eternal is just a eternal continuation of a individuals journey. What paths we choose only changes our locations in life or death. If we choose Christ then our path will lead to different Earthly locations and eventually Heaven. If we rebel and deny then we will fall into the well trodden worldly paths and eventually Hell.
 
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Life from physical to eternal is just a eternal continuation of a individuals journey. What paths we choose only changes our locations in life or death. If we choose Christ then our path will lead to different Earthly locations and eventually Heaven. If we rebel and deny then we will fall into the well trodden worldly paths and eventually Hell.
You missed my point I think... would like me to elaborate?
 

SoulWeaver

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Efforts of will cannot cause anyone to cease from sinning. Preaching like this is so useless because it doesn't help. Only through building up in faith and developing relationship with God can one cease from doing unfruitful things. As opposed to struggling out of it we grow out of it, and God brings new things up and convicts us at times as He sees fit. Sometimes when you've gotten rid of a big habitual sin you had, you think "Great! Got it all ironed out now", but then God brings the next thing that was lurking in the background, that you were so used to, that you weren't even realizing it was there, and then your eyes open to how bad it is and that it has to go. And the deeper God goes, often worse things are revealed than the first. It took removing a lot of other things first for me to get to the unpleasant truth that I was being unforgiving towards some people, which is probably the worst sin for a Christian, imo, and I realized God's incredible patience with me, seeing my terrible condition off the start, yet working slowly to get me there. Then when that was gone, I thought, "well now I finally became this model Christian that God is pleased with", but then God searched deep in my heart again, and I am facepalming, where is the end of it, and how much do I still have to go? The process unfortunately, or fortunately, doesn't end until God decides He fixed me up enough for marriage supper. I doubt it is much different for other people, if there are some shortcuts please leave a memo tutorial.
 

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God say’s in Deu 30:11 my commandments are not far from you!! The Hebrew meaning for “not far from you” means its not beyond your ability.

1 corinth 10:13 you will not be tempted above ur measure but rather God will always give you an escape so u can bear it.


God doesn’t command the impossible, our moral obligations never exceed our abilities. God doesn’t send people 2 hell 4 wat they couldn’t avoid, he sends them 2 hell 4 wat they could have avoided, God knows the intents of the heart jeremiah 17:10 2 chron 28:9 he knows all the thoughts and imaginations of man, so he knows wat your capable of.


After all it would be unfair and unjust 2 send people 2 hell for the unavoidable. Phil 4:13 I can do all things thru Christ who strengthens me!! Cant jesus give you the power 2 stop sinning if u learn on him.


Matt 11:28-30 come 2 me you who are heavy laden and I’ll give u rest, my yoke is easy and my burden is light!!


Also wat situations are u putting urslef in that’s causing u 2 sin? Bible says 2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.


If something or someone is causing u 2 sin come out from among them or it, why create a stumbling block 4 urslef rom 9:30-33


What sin is so strong dat u cant fight off!! Doesn’t the bible say in Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Luke 21:36 pray dat you can escape the snares of dis world!! Wont God answer the prayers of those who seek him early proverbs 8:7 and pray continually 2 him Ephesians 6:18.

Isn’t the spirit willing but the flesh weak matt 26:41 and doesn’t it say if you walk in the spirit u wont fulfil the lusts of the flesh gal 5:16

Canal nature 1 pet 2:24
I think if we stop giving you the attention you seek on this forum, you'll go to those other sites you must certainly be a member of and post there. You've apparently felt led to take your street ministry to the World Wide Web.
And here, you fail as you do on the street. Perhaps , if you believe in God, truly do, you might consider that a sign from God. That the spirit that is leading you to preach your false doctrine is not the God of the Christians. It rather is His adversary. And this is why your "preaching" is contrary to the actual Good News that Christ died to seal for eternity with His own precious blood.

You see, when you are in this thread telling the saints here how we can stop sinning, but in your judgment we just don't want to, and as you vary your writing so as to fall into text-speak, you fail to realize that you are incapable of leading anyone to the understanding you hope to impart in this latest thread.

Why?

Because you committed the unpardonable sin! Because you wanted to!
(Refuting Penal Substitution) Jesus Did NOT Satisfy the Wrath of God On The Cross!! <That thread of yours is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. You in your judgment, and false leading and corruption of Gods words call God a liar and Christ a failure on the cross.

Jesse Morrell,(SpiritDove05) look to your own soul after that. For you are not forgiven according to God and His word.
The Book of Matthew chapter 12:31
"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven."

God sees you!
And so do we. You are everything Christ warned the church to watch out for when false teachers would come about seeking to deceive even the elect.
 
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Very interesting. Let us cross examine this for a moment.



In Deu 30:11 this is speaking to the Israelites. So was it by their ability alone that caused them to be seen as righteous or blameless? Was they able to keep the whole law? I seem to remember
1 John 1:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.



Agreed if we choose God over the flesh. If one falls into sin that doesn't mean they are not Christian. It simply is the evident reality of the Spirit vs Flesh daily battle.



Bingo. This is the true determining factor. We are imperfect beings as to why Jesus was as the escape goat on our behalf. We are not sinless but blemishless. Not perfect but seen as righteous. We are justified only by faith in Christ.



Of course but only if one could 100% 24/7 be obedient to Jesus. Our flesh is weak but our Spirit is willing. A willing Spirit is always there to help but our flesh struggles with emotions, physical struggles like hunger, exhaustion, mental sins, chemical reactions like hormones, release of Dopamine, or outside influences that cause spontaneous reactions. Our flesh is weak but in faith we are seen as righteous.



Also true but is this a one time thing or daily thing? Satan and his demonic forces are also at work. Again in obedience we can live the truths of scripture. This is why we constantly have to train the flesh and keep it in line. Not to reach perfection on Earth but through a process called justification and sanctification. We only reach perfection on the day of glorification once we pass on into Heaven.



Again the Christian walk on Earth is a journey not a destination. We keep walking in faith until life has left us. Then we only move locations to begin another eternal journey. I have never met a sinless Christian. The only man I know was Jesus Christ.
I agree with u some what, the hunger thing doesn't really stand, there are people out there fasting 4 40 days straight!! the body actually can go without food for 40 days!! and without water 4 about 3 days!! and as 4 the chemical reaction thing again sin is not a biological issue its a moral issue, we cant blame the hormones man coz we are in control of our hormones not hormones are in control of us.

2nd jesus said be (perfect) as ur heavenly father is perfect, again its a moral thing and why would jesus command something he new we couldn't achieve?

also are u telling me the God of the universe cant make us stop sinning if he wanted two? do u have a form of godliness but deny the power of ? 2 tim 3:5

im not talking about presumptuous sin im talking about wilful sin, im not saying its easy but at the same time theres effort that has 2 be put in, plus people don't have enough prayer life!! ask and u shall receive the bible says matt 7:7
pray 2 God and ask him 2 help u stop sinning!! dats what hes there for.

yes train the flesh, bring it into subjection gal 5:16 , resist the devil and he will flee james 4:7 don't wait 4 a state of perfection u have 2 strive 2 reach it.