Genesis 3:15 and what really happened in the garden of Eden

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Dino246

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It's usually best to present your ideas and invite others to respond, rather than to invite others so that you may respond.
 
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It's usually best to present your ideas and invite others to respond, rather than to invite others so that you may respond.
Fine. Glad you directed me with that.
God said be fruitful and multiply. Fruitful means acceptable to God and worthy of His table as our offering to Him.
When Eve went to the lineage or tree of the Carnal knowledge of good and evil she began to discover her
sensuousness. Some entity was leading her on. We don't like to use the word but it's called masturbation.As an innocent man
if you've ever gone to a go go bar for the first time you'll know immediately what Adam was confronted with. He immediately became aware of his virility spying his mate. She then gave the fruit to her husband meaning herself and the two became one and Cain was conceived. Only problem this offering or act was unworthy before God and God spoke for the very first time.

What Eve committed wasn't nearly as bad as what Adam committed. The carnal act took place outside the matrimonial boundary
of God. God was everywhere in the garden except at that location. She had caused God to curse all subsequent women from that point on. All except the Woman that will crush the Serpent's head. The Holy Mother of God the Blessed Virgin Maria.
 
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Oh...that's typical. Like Jesus said tell me what I have said wrong? If not, why do you strike me?
Fact is if people learn early on in history the sins that plaque mankind they would hopefully be more sincere in their quest in the
search for God. You may not like the message but don't smite the messenger.
 

Dino246

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God said be fruitful and multiply. Fruitful means acceptable to God and worthy of His table as our offering to Him.
No; fruitful means "producing fruit", period. In that context, it means to produce children.

When Eve went to the lineage or tree of the Carnal knowledge of good and evil she began to discover her sensuousness. Some entity was leading her on. We don't like to use the word but it's called masturbation.As an innocent man if you've ever gone to a go go bar for the first time you'll know immediately what Adam was confronted with. He immediately became aware of his virility spying his mate. She then gave the fruit to her husband meaning herself and the two became one and Cain was conceived. Only problem this offering or act was unworthy before God and God spoke for the very first time.
Unbiblical (and perverted) hogwash.

What Eve committed wasn't nearly as bad as what Adam committed. The carnal act took place outside the matrimonial boundary
of God.
Simply wrong.

God was everywhere in the garden except at that location. She had caused God to curse all subsequent women from that point on.
God didn't curse the woman; He cursed the serpent and the ground.

All except the Woman that will crush the Serpent's head. The Holy Mother of God the Blessed Virgin Maria.
Are you a Catholic? There is no such thing as the "mother of God" in the Bible, but there is in the Catholic heresy.
 

Dino246

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Fact is if people learn early on in history the sins that plaque mankind they would hopefully be more sincere in their quest in the
search for God. You may not like the message but don't smite the messenger.
She didn't smite you. She told you the hard truth. As you say, don't smite the messenger.
 
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No; fruitful means "producing fruit", period. In that context, it means to produce children.


Unbiblical (and perverted) hogwash.


Simply wrong.


God didn't curse the woman; He cursed the serpent and the ground.


Are you a Catholic? There is no such thing as the "mother of God" in the Bible, but there is in the Catholic heresy.
Then you are heretic.
 

Nehemiah6

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Would anybody care to chime in.
You did not need to start another thread to postulate these BIZARRE AND UNSCRIPTURAL IDEAS.

You post #3 -- with all due respect -- is TOTAL NONSENSE.
 
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You did not need to start another thread to postulate these BIZARRE AND UNSCRIPTURAL IDEAS.

You post #3 -- with all due respect -- is TOTAL NONSENSE.
Then like I stated before prove me wrong. Let's hear the Walt Disney version. They ate an apple right. In that case why didn't they cover their mouths instead of their genitalia?
 
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No; fruitful means "producing fruit", period. In that context, it means to produce children.


Unbiblical (and perverted) hogwash.


Simply wrong.


God didn't curse the woman; He cursed the serpent and the ground.


Are you a Catholic? There is no such thing as the "mother of God" in the Bible, but there is in the Catholic heresy.
Oh...He cursed the ground now tell me what fell on the ground that cause God to get so angry that all generations will be stained?
 

Dino246

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AmanII, you need to repent and believe in Jesus Christ and His finished work in His death, burial, and resurrection.

Have a nice life. You'll be gone from here soon.
 
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You did not need to start another thread to postulate these BIZARRE AND UNSCRIPTURAL IDEAS.

You post #3 -- with all due respect -- is TOTAL NONSENSE.
Well that's s
AmanII, you need to repent and believe in Jesus Christ and His finished work in His death, burial, and resurrection.

Have a nice life. You'll be gone from here soon.
AmanII, you need to repent and believe in Jesus Christ and His finished work in His death, burial, and resurrection.

Have a nice life. You'll be gone from here soon.
Now that's usual for people who are belligerent instead of Christian.
 

Dino246

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Now that's usual for people who are belligerent instead of Christian.
Since you won't be here anyway, you'll have time to go and look up the fallacy of the excluded middle.
 
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Since you won't be here anyway, you'll have time to go and look up the fallacy of the excluded middle.
You're making no sense at all. Try and be scholarly like instead. What are you afraid of?
 
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being naked means totally pure and holy, blemish free from sin, anger etc and nothing shameful about the naked body. The God I know doesn't create things that are supposed to be covered and hide. When Adam and Eve sinned, they were no longer holy or blemish free, so they covered themselves. God in his mercy gave them animal pelts for extra protection, wearing fig leaves wouldn't cut it. This is also signifies that they were no longer holy and perfect. Once Jesus died on the cross for our sins, we are again Justified and some Sanctified. Nudity is no longer shameful thanks to Jesus. Read scripture to see how may prophets and King David etc all went around naked. Be careful of worldly conditioning and traditions, it tends to come back and bite you real hard. Oh, and there is no Mother Mary, thats catholicism and there detestable religion, based on manmade principals, paganism and small amounts of scripture. Judge a tree by its fruit.
 
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AmanII,

Your understanding on that scripture is faulty and lacking decency. Quite a private, and jarring, interpretation.