Enemy or children of the Lord.

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Subhumanoidal

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You couldn't be bothered writing out the scripture? 🙄
 

notuptome

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All men are enemies of God until they are saved. Ephesians 2 and especially verse 13 is useful study in answering your inquiry.

For the cause of Christ
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All men are enemies of God until they are saved. Ephesians 2 and especially verse 13 is useful study in answering your inquiry.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
If they don't want to be saved. Don't try to save them cause they will have you in confusion and you will be serving their hell with full control. In that I would wait for judgement. It's not your battle at that point.😇
 

crossnote

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"Enemy or children of the Lord."

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. (Rom 12:2)

Ok, I give up. I'm having trouble connecting the dots.
If you had written James 4:4, I probably would have made a connection.

James 4:4 (KJV) Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
 
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Trying to get help through bible discussion cc message board.
I attended a church where the pastor preached on the mind of Christ for three years. Every week he had a new scripture that teaches on a quality of the mind of Christ. Then after 3 years I realized we could fill up a whole dictionary with words that describes the Mind of Christ and the Divine Thoughts of God. For example: Jesus had the right attitude, he was patient, unshakeable, compassion, gracious, watching, loving, courage, zeal, alert, honest, humble, good report, self control, respectful. To name a few.

"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God." We are to be transformed by the renewing of our mind. We are to be made new.
 

JaumeJ

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I was given to handle cryptography in the USAF, communication packetts for the B52's and the KC135''s.
 
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If they don't want to be saved. Don't try to save them cause they will have you in confusion and you will be serving their hell with full control. In that I would wait for judgement. It's not your battle at that point.😇
Or in other words follow Jesus's advice: Matthew 10:14
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
 
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Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

This is speaking to the children of God for Paul called them brethren for when they are saved they are to grow in Christ, and to be like Christ representing goodness which is what this is speaking about.

Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

But if they do not move forward and be Christlike they will not be brethren anymore for Jesus said the hypocrite will not be with Him.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Some people did not repent correctly when they confessed Christ and never came to the truth.

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Some people repented correctly but went back to sin and did not continue in the goodness of God.

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

So Paul is telling the ones that repented correctly to move forward acting like Christ and growing in Christ which is the perfect will of the Father.
 
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I attended a church. Then after 3 years I realized we could fill up a whole dictionary with words that describes the Mind of Christ and the Divine Thoughts of God. For example: Jesus had the right attitude, he was patient, unshakeable, compassion, gracious, watching, loving, courage, zeal, alert, honest, humble, good report, self control, respectful. To name a few.
You forget that Jesus-GOD got vicious and took a stick to the dirty cattle sellers and money changers in the temple when if the stick guy really was GOD He could had their own lambs trample them to a pulp.
And GOD-Jesus seems a petulant genocidist according to all non-believers.
And the risen Jesus-GOD couldn't have spoken to Mary because no-one can see GOD's face and live.
And the GOD-Jesus that had to return to convince Thomas still had a hole when He could have spoken to him out of a candle flame.
 
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Everything follows shadows and types. There is a pattern that has been established from the very beginning. In the Bible they call this the rule of first use. God is very exact and very precise and He does things the way He does them. We can see this in how fine tuned the universe is. We can see this in my aviator how delicate of a balance life can be.
 
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Notuptome had a good answer for the question.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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If they don't want to be saved. Don't try to save them cause they will have you in confusion and you will be serving their hell with full control. In that I would wait for judgement. It's not your battle at that point.😇
ummm...

we do not save anyone and the Holy Spirit is the one who convicts of sin

amazing confusion going on here
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Jesus said love thy neighbor😇
and God said you will find me when you search for me with your whole heart

some people try to get fast results by asking others to do the work for them, but that is not ever going to work

as others have stated, your op does not match up with your lack of verse posting

do you know what the Bible has to say to those who are lazy? that could be homework for you :)

look up the word 'sluggard'