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bojack

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i would tell you the absurdity of it, however i dont want to diminish the over all issue... If i say "at least let us post this" that is diminishing the over all issue at hand... You are limiting peoples freedoms based on your opinions of their beliefs and words...

Dude, what if the authority simply doesnt like you?
Tart , I thought you were a female .. What you need to do is go down to your local boxing gym and take your joke frustration out on those guys .. Use all the free speech you want to down there ..
 

bojack

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unless you want me to go to the catholic church and start kickin some ass? spice up my life a little...
You ain't kicked none here , ''Tart'' .. You wouldn't risk taking up your beef with one of those forbid to marry rcc priests , that would look bad on your resume if one of them handed it to you ''if ya know what I mean''
 
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EleventhHour

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You ain't kicked none here , ''Tart'' .. You wouldn't risk taking up your beef with one of those forbid to marry rcc priests , that would look bad on your resume if one of them handed it to you ''if ya know what I mean''
For your information.......Tart has been escorted out of the building and rightly so. :)
 

bojack

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For your information.......Tart has been escorted out of the building and rightly so. :)
His little green light was on .. I was just waiting on him to reply .. I never picked on weaklings , I always started with the biggest and the loudest .. I've found throughout life the real tuff guys are usually the more reasonable and respectful ..
 
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EleventhHour

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His little green light was on .. I was just waiting on him to reply .. I never picked on weaklings , I always started with the biggest and the loudest .. I've found throughout life the real tuff guys are usually the more reasonable and respectful ..
Interesting about the "tuff guys"

Well let me tell you some major problems with that guy for sure.
Very unnerving
 

bojack

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Interesting about the "tuff guys"

Well let me tell you some major problems with that guy for sure.
Very unnerving
I really thought he was a girl until I went through some of the posts .. I've never laid a hand on any female .. I have went to different beer joints just to see if there were enough in there to throw me out just for fun and a thrill .. Even an Outlaws MCC joint before terminater ever come out lol .. You'd be surprised how many free beers you can get from those who didn't want none ..
 

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If by the "roman catholic church" you mean the Catholic Church then you are wrong. It is not evil and it is not a cult.
I mean the Catholic church that has it's administration in the city state of the Vatican and who has a Pope as it's leader... I think anyone with even a basic level of knowledge will know what Organization i am talking about when i say Roman Catholic church..
 

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Do you hate yourself? just out of curiosity? Im not calling you evil. im just wondering how you deal with your own shortcomings.
I hate the evil i do.. I hate my current imperfect state of being.. Just as Jesus said we should hate our very lives in this evil world.. Do you believe Jesus or not???

Luke 14: KJV
26 "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

If one disagrees with Jesus in what He declared above then why would they lie and say they are a follower of Jesus?

How do i deal with my own imperfection?? I trust in the Atonement of my LORD Jesus Christ who sacrificed His own life to pay the penalty that was justly due upon me..
 

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There is nothing wrong with reading literature written by the Saints...
And Again i will ask.. What organisation declared these ""saints"" to be Saints?
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Oh I do have much knowledge of Roman Catholic history and somehow that is a little intimidating to you.. why else do you need me to stop talking.

Grace mediated by priests ... wrong
Belief in the articles of faith saves no one
.... amazing anyone can defend what is indefensible

The Catholic Encyclopedia discusses the nature and functions of the sacraments as follows:

It is necessary to set forth the essential elements of a sacrament. These are: (a) a sensible sign instituted by God, which gives sanctifying grace; (b) both matter and form present with each sacrament; the matter is the material used, the form the accompanying words and action; and (c) a minister, someone authorized to give the sacrament with the intention of doing what the Church intends…. the sacraments produce grace…. Sanctifying grace is given by reason of the rite itself (ex opere operato), and grace is not given if the sacrament if not received with the necessary moral disposition. In addition, each sacrament confers a special grace, called sacramental grace. As defined by the Council of Trent, it is the teaching of the Catholic Church, that every one of the sacraments of the New Law was instituted by Christ…. Vatican II declares: “The purpose of the sacraments is to sanctify men, to build up the body of Christ, and finally to give worship to God. Because they are signs they also instruct.”[12]
It's not intimidating to me at all you silly woman. You aren't showing me anything I don't know.
It is your error to keep focusing on everything negative about Catholicism and using it as an excuse to judge the hearts of people who are Christian.

As I said before. Stop talking AS IF you are the only one who has any idea about Catholicism and it's jaded history. Moreover, The Lord is not unaware of the various problems, errors and sins within in the Christian denominations. All of them. See Rev Ch's 2&3
We can focus on the errors of protestants as well if what we want is never to move on and keep churning up the hatred.
You have been told to forgive your brothers.

The hour we live in calls for a focus on The Lord, His return and his plan.
He told us a house divided cannot stand. We must stand in the face of the enemy.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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You know nothing about my history or spiritual life.
I read a wonderful testimony from a former Muslim lady who was struggling with faith in God.
Nuns in the Catholic mission hospital lead her to seek God as her father rather than God an impersonal power.
That was the turning point for her. Koran VS Bible. "In which book am I revealed to you as your father?"

The Lord used the nuns who were serving & ministering to the poor people of Pakistan with medical care to lead her to him. She gave her life to Jesus. She didn't become Catholic but she did see the love of Christ demonstrated by those Christian ladies in the Catholic mission hospital.

It's not my right to judge the hearts of people because I don't agree with rosaries and Popes.
I can't even judge the hearts of Popes. Some of them have been sinister abusers of power but they haven't all been bad.
 
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EleventhHour

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It's not intimidating to me at all you silly woman. You aren't showing me anything I don't know.
It is your error to keep focusing on everything negative about Catholicism and using it as an excuse to judge the hearts of people who are Christian.

As I said before. Stop talking AS IF you are the only one who has any idea about Catholicism and it's jaded history. Moreover, The Lord is not unaware of the various problems, errors and sins within in the Christian denominations. All of them. See Rev Ch's 2&3
We can focus on the errors of protestants as well if what we want is never to move on and keep churning up the hatred.
You have been told to forgive your brothers.

The hour we live in calls for a focus on The Lord, His return and his plan.
He told us a house divided cannot stand. We must stand in the face of the enemy.

It becomes difficult to stand against an enemy when you do not recognize him

"Judge their hearts" has nothing at all to do with what I wrote....separate out adherents from the institution and the hierarchy.

And your ad hominem personal language of " silly" does not negate what is plainly true....the Roman Catholic Church is not of God, they deny the Gospel plain and simple... no Gospel >>>>>>> no Father and Son

Yes, let us just minimize it to "problems" :rolleyes:

"Jaded history".... again more minimization

Tragic to defend what is indefensible >>> an hierarchical cesspool

Denominations have no eschatological significance

Jesus makes it very clear....

22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
 
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EleventhHour

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He will most likely return under another nick before too long..
I did a stupid thing and messaged him to see if he was a former member ... wow let me tell you ... not pleasant... definitely has issues with women.
 
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I read a wonderful testimony from a former Muslim lady who was struggling with faith in God.
Nuns in the Catholic mission hospital lead her to seek God as her father rather than God an impersonal power.
That was the turning point for her. Koran VS Bible. "In which book am I revealed to you as your father?"

The Lord used the nuns who were serving & ministering to the poor people of Pakistan with medical care to lead her to him. She gave her life to Jesus. She didn't become Catholic but she did see the love of Christ demonstrated by those Christian ladies in the Catholic mission hospital.

It's not my right to judge the hearts of people because I don't agree with rosaries and Popes.
I can't even judge the hearts of Popes. Some of them have been sinister abusers of power but they haven't all been bad.

The pity is, they were led from one false doctrine to another. The pope is no different, no closer to God,can forgive no one. He has no power on earth or heaven. There is only ONE mediator between God and man, Jesus. Not the pope,priest or preacher. No one but God alone can save you and forgive your sins. No prayer to Mary or any other saint will help you. Mary had no power,she was not sinless. You cannot pray your loved one into heaven. All these are serious issues and are false doctrine, flat out. And the Bible is the only authority, no other book.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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The pity is, they were led from one false doctrine to another. The pope is no different, no closer to God,can forgive no one. He has no power on earth or heaven. There is only ONE mediator between God and man, Jesus. Not the pope,priest or preacher. No one but God alone can save you and forgive your sins. No prayer to Mary or any other saint will help you. Mary had no power,she was not sinless. You cannot pray your loved one into heaven. All these are serious issues and are false doctrine, flat out. And the Bible is the only authority, no other book.
Why are you giving me a lecture on this?

None of this changes the fact that Catholics are Christians. And it's Protestants who are in error when they make false claims otherwise.