Air pollution in China and northern Italy dramatically dropped after coronavirus shutdown!

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Gl8ria

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I came across many articles showing the effect of coronavirus lockdown on air pollution. It seems that in only one month the air pollution in China is practically all gone, saving about 77 000 lives.

I'm very sad for all the families who are losing loved ones during this pandemic but it also makes me remember that we don't know His plan.

!!!o_Oo_Oo_O Plague or blessing? o_Oo_Oo_O !!!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51691967

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmc...a-just-from-pollution-reduction/#47ea4fb634fe

https://www.space.com/italy-coronavirus-outbreak-response-reduces-emissions-satellite-images.html
 

Subhumanoidal

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Corona is causing panic, selfishness, people being violent over toilet paper and fear. Peoples incomes are being affected. The stock market crashing. Businesses loosing money. Travel restrictions. Price gouging. Fear mongering. And deaths. I'm pretty sure that's not a blessing.
Also I find that statistic suspect.

In fact here is a line taken from the Forbes article...
“That is NOT to say that the pandemic is some kind of a blessing in disguise, with all the suffering it has imposed on people."
 

JaumeJ

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There is not much of a disguise if the heart sees.

Here in Spain we are in lock-down. Only essential outings are allowed. There was some rush to buy for those who do not stock up their larders but now after just a few days that has stopped. The prices for necessities have not been raised , at least now where I buy.

People are being very level-heade with each other, however there are a lways a few nitwits doing things that obviously are dangerous to the populous.

There have been some errors on the part of the government howeve once recognized they have been corrected. Overall I am quite pleased dwith Spain's sstrong and decisive action for the good dof all.

Do you best not to break the social distancing and pray for those who are in fear. All love in Jesus, Yeshua...j
 
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If it is true about air pollution then the silver lining of this virus could be the answer to global warming and which is said to be due to pollution. No people.
 

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Corona is causing panic, selfishness, people being violent over toilet paper and fear. Peoples incomes are being affected. The stock market crashing. Businesses loosing money. Travel restrictions. Price gouging. Fear mongering. And deaths. I'm pretty sure that's not a blessing.
Also I find that statistic suspect.

In fact here is a line taken from the Forbes article...
“That is NOT to say that the pandemic is some kind of a blessing in disguise, with all the suffering it has imposed on people."
Very true, how this pandemic is causing so many negatives that it's next to impossible to see any good out of it. People are not coming together, they are fighting each other. Nobody was ready for this. It's causing complete interruptions of life and people don't know what to do. It's bringing out the worst in people.
I'm sure there is a reason for all of this, as there is purpose for everything.
 

JaumeJ

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If it is true about air pollution then the silver lining of this virus could be the answer to global warming and which is said to be due to pollution. No people.
I love the "new air" here where I live, but on the monied media I detect by the coverage the hope of the greedy to hasten getting back to "business as usual" ignoring the benefits of guided production.. Pity. Let us praise our Father in Heaven and pray always His will be done..
 
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I love the "new air" here where I live, but on the monied media I detect by the coverage the hope of the greedy to hasten getting back to "business as usual" ignoring the benefits of guided production.. Pity. Let us praise our Father in Heaven and pray always His will be done..
Do you think thus Corona virus is his will?
 

JaumeJ

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Do you think thus Corona virus is his will?
Many try to put the blame for everything on our Fadther, and to some extent it is true, for He could stop it.

The "evolution" of this age and mankind's influence are dictated by man's propensity to act according to his own will with no regard to our Maker. Ergo, our Father allows man to continue knowing full well eveything without Him is allied to corrupstion and ultimate self destruction.

Of course when man is close to succeeding, our Father will then show He real is in charge……........the fire next time..
 
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Many try to put the blame for everything on our Fadther, and to some extent it is true, for He could stop it.

The "evolution" of this age and mankind's influence are dictated by man's propensity to act according to his own will with no regard to our Maker. Ergo, our Father allows man to continue knowing full well eveything without Him is allied to corrupstion and ultimate self destruction.

Of course when man is close to succeeding, our Father will then show He real is in charge……........the fire next time..
Ever ask yourself why God would punish people for being what he made them to be?
 

mar09

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God does punish the evil and the foolish.. that is why the many calls of Wisdom to be transformed as believers.

We may not see the 'good' side of things now, but God's word says "All things work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purpose." Also, "the Lord gave and taketh away" and we can only bless HIs name whatever is happening, even if we do not understand all the why's.
 

JaumeJ

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Ever ask yourself why God would punish people for being what he made them to be?
Sorry to have dallied, it is morning here now. Good morning in Jesus, Yeshua.

Our Father does not punish people,. All the evil of man since Jesus first came to us has been at the hands of man, while our Father allows it. Even so-called ddnatural disassters can be scientifically attributed to man but that is a very invo.ved conversastion which I do not wish to engage in.

Whan our Father chastizes a man or mankind, it can only be because of His love for us. I cannot blame Him that I have passed through a mountain of sorrows and pain in my life. Had people watched out for their neighbors people would not hungaser or be born with things like rickets and so many other avoicable so-called punishments.

When we believe God loves us, and after His giving us His Son to suffer and die for us, who cannot, we know anything in this age of darkness will pass away in the fire next time only to rebirth in God's glorious kingdom, and His glory.
 

Gl8ria

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Corona is causing panic, selfishness, people being violent over toilet paper and fear. Peoples incomes are being affected. The stock market crashing. Businesses loosing money. Travel restrictions. Price gouging. Fear mongering. And deaths. I'm pretty sure that's not a blessing.
Also I find that statistic suspect.

In fact here is a line taken from the Forbes article...
“That is NOT to say that the pandemic is some kind of a blessing in disguise, with all the suffering it has imposed on people."

Panic, selfishness, violence, price gouging fear mongering and death are not new or unique to this pandemic.

However, reversing the effect of extreme air pollution and the destruction of our environment is.

Also, I didn't invent the statistics, or write the articles.

I was only reporting what I had read, thanks for being so condescending!
 
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Sorry to have dallied, it is morning here now. Good morning in Jesus, Yeshua.

Our Father does not punish people,. All the evil of man since Jesus first came to us has been at the hands of man, while our Father allows it. Even so-called ddnatural disassters can be scientifically attributed to man but that is a very invo.ved conversastion which I do not wish to engage in.

Whan our Father chastizes a man or mankind, it can only be because of His love for us. I cannot blame Him that I have passed through a mountain of sorrows and pain in my life. Had people watched out for their neighbors people would not hungaser or be born with things like rickets and so many other avoicable so-called punishments.

When we believe God loves us, and after His giving us His Son to suffer and die for us, who cannot, we know anything in this age of darkness will pass away in the fire next time only to rebirth in God's glorious kingdom, and His glory.
I think love has to be a consistent thing. Don't you? Like take a human example. A guy who beats his wife. Yet, he tells her when he's over his rage that he loves her, and he won't do it again. And he even maybe gives her a gift to make up for breaking her face.

Is that love?
No, that's abuse! She should leave him, prosecute , file for divorce, and leave the state while he's incarcerated, and change her name so he doesn't come looking for her when he gets out.

Now, lets look at God in the same light of, I love you. God loves us. While all things that happen in this world happen while God watches. The good and the bad.
And some think the disasters that happen are God making things so bad that it will cause people to turn to him. But God knows everything there is to know, even that there will be people who live and die as unbelievers. So why would God cause, as some think, September 11th? Or this Corona virus? When being that he knows everything there is to know, is alpha and omega, beginning and the end, he also knows that there are people who will never turn to him.
And another thing. Why would they turn to him after that? Is it out of love? Or would it be out of fear? Turn to God so he doesn't let another September 11th happen again? Meaning, he let it happen so that people would convert to faith in him?

Is that conversion out of love? Or due to terrorism from a spiritual manipulative place?
For God to be Go as we're told he is, all love, God has to be better than the worst human.
 

JaumeJ

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I cannot converse with anyone who cannot delve beyond this creation to understand our Creator.

Some of your examples are political, but most are simply based on the creation, or, this material world.

Once a person can go beyond dthis pint and undersstand all that is (is seen) is allied to corruption, then perhaps that person will look to hope in our Maker. Until then, there is nodialoging for that will always be futility.
 

Lanolin

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I havent read the articles but I do know that China desperately needs a sabbath they cant continue on with the demand from other countries putting pressure on them. and so do all others.

Thankfully plastic bags have now been banned so thats one less way of transmitting a virus. China has stopped accepting other countries recycled materials because nobody bothered to wash them from and it was contaminated. when they had that milk powder scare that was actually through trade with NZ and dodgy dealings with Fonterra. I was appalled that on both sides people were being greedy.

now that businesses have shut for four weeks that should stop the virus in its tracks.