This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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JamOn

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when was the last time 50 doctors have died in a short period of time from the seasonal flu virus in one country. underlying conditions seems to be not much of a factor any more.
 
blue_ladybug

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JamOn said:
Why does this have to be about a single country all of a sudden, people in America is viewing it the same as another people any where. if you want to start naming things people are not being concerned just in America I can no doubt find news in New Zealand of people not concerned with about the virus.
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This virus is NOT in a single country. It's in EVERY COUNTRY, and EVERY U.S. state..
 
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blue_ladybug said:
This virus is NOT in a single country. It's in EVERY COUNTRY, and EVERY U.S. state..
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I agree we should not be focusing on this country is doing this and this country isn’t doing this. this has blind sided the whole world. it’s turning out to be very allusive someone might have it for weeks and not know it. how many deadly viruses react like that not many I don’t think.
 
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JamOn said:
the ones that are left, the alarming stat in Italy has been I think so far 50 doctors that have died from getting the corona virus, not sure how many nurses but it might get to a point where there are not enough qualified practitioners to help to growing numbers of the infected and in need of help.
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Interesting, again speaks to slowing the spread so that front line workers have the protective equipment they need, many of them have had to reuse what they had because they did not have enough.
 
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This is just my personal opinion, but the fact this virus spread world-wide so quickly, tells me it's obviously a biotech weapon of some sort.. But people don't want to hear it, they don't want to believe it and THAT will be their ultimate downfall.
 
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I’m starting to lean towards China not recognizing it early enough among their daily virus infections and deaths until it was to late, I think it’s been brewing long before dec, 2019
 
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EleventhHour said:
Interesting, again speaks to slowing the spread so that front line workers have the protective equipment they need, many of them have had to reuse what they had because they did not have enough.
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yes and I hope many countries across the world start or force if needed their companies to start producing these goods, I know it takes a minute to retro fit a factory from cars to ventilators but sooner than later is what is needed.
 
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JamOn said:
yes and I hope many countries across the world start or force if needed their companies to start producing these goods, I know it takes a minute to retro fit a factory from cars to ventilators but sooner than later is what is needed.
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Ventilators need doctors and nurses too... people on the various threads of Covid - 19 on CC are refusing to realize how complex a pandemic can be.
Plus the people with this Covid -19 need ventilators far longer ( up to 20 days) then the typical seasonal flu bug.
Just another flu ... smh
 
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EleventhHour said:
Ventilators need doctors and nurses too... people on the various threads of Covid - 19 on CC are refusing to realize how complex a pandemic can be.
Plus the people with this Covid -19 need ventilators far longer ( up to 20 days) then the typical seasonal flu bug.
Just another flu ... smh
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it’s complex no doubt effecting even the health care workers, having a personal hand held ventilator might be something to consider. I know this might sound far fetch but what happens if trained doctors and nurses are in short supplies and some one we might know is having trouble getting seen. ordinary people might become doctors and nurses.

just saying this might be useful it doesn’t cost much right now about 30$

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its because the OP was talking about american and the majority of posters seem to be american and frankly rsther arrogant or ignorant.
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And there it is. You've interjected your prejudice toward Americans on everyone of these corona virus threads that I've read, thus far.

Not seen a post from you that has much intellect or of much relevance than cutting down on Americans. You might wanna be careful cause your ignorance is showing...just saying..Prejudice = ignorance
 
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let me interject a personal story here-

my neighbor, a nice 67 year old lady, has a farm. fruits and veggies, she also has some goats and a couple of donkeys. she said that late in the season last year, she got really worn down from farm work, and decided to get into better shape over the winter. one day at the gym, a Chinese man got on to the treadmill next to her. ( late January). she said the man coughed a lot. within a week, she got sick. thinking it was a bad cold, she carried on for several days. got worse, went to doc, got meds. said the meds helped , but was still sick. went back to doc, got more meds, and slowly got better, took her about a month from start of sickness to being o.k.

she says, obviously , it wax probably coronavirus. ( this was early feb. not much testing being done, probably none in my town.)
so, one has to wonder, if it was now, and she went immediately and got tested, and got meds, would the sickness not been as bad, and recovery time faster......
 
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Lanolin said:
thos people treating it all as a joke are not funny IMHO.
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EleventhHour said:
I would absolutely agree on that.
Worse yet people that think we can just carry on and and open everything back up and problem solved.
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I would like you to go yell that out in the middle of a Piazza in Italy, or perhaps to the doctors and nurses there?
Yes I really would.

Pandemics have happened in history before and there was no agenda.
Coddled generations that no nothing of history....smh
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You have not studied history well enough. Agendas have been around for a VERY long time.

Nonetheless, that is not the issue...

TODAY - there is an agenda behind EVERY major 'event' that happens in the world ("bar none").

Very precious little happens anymore that is not in some way connected to an 'elite' agenda.

If it does - the 'elite' are quick to use it to their advantage in every possible way.

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There are those of us who are just as concerned about what is going on in the world as anyone else; however, we are also concerned about other things about which most people in the world have no - or, insufficient - knowledge.

We are not without feeling. We pray for those who truly have to deal with it directly.

While truly concerned about what is happenning now, the focus of our concern is on the aftermath of it all.

I can do very little at this time (other than pray) to help anyone out in the world; however, what I can do is to try to help others gain a better understanding of the "bigger picture" of what is happening at this time.
 
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GaryA said:
You have not studied history well enough. Agendas have been around for a VERY long time.

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hey GaryA just FYI, I checked your site out I liked it though it says the link is unsecured, might want to check into the secures of it.
 
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GaryA said:
You have not studied history well enough. Agendas have been around for a VERY long time.
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And never stated that there wasn't ... my point pandemics have happened before in history and there was noagenda, they did not even know what virus was.
 
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GaryA said:
You have not studied history well enough. Agendas have been around for a VERY long time.

Nonetheless, that is not the issue...

TODAY - there is an agenda behind EVERY major 'event' that happens in the world ("bar none").

Very precious little happens anymore that is not in some way connected to an 'elite' agenda.

If it does - the 'elite' are quick to use it to their advantage in every possible way.

~

There are those of us who are just as concerned about what is going on in the world as anyone else; however, we are also concerned about other things about which most people in the world have no - or, insufficient - knowledge.

We are not without feeling. We pray for those who truly have to deal with it directly.

While truly concerned about what is happenning now, the focus of our concern is on the aftermath of it all.

I can do very little at this time (other than pray) to help anyone out in the world; however, what I can do is to try to help others gain a better understanding of the "bigger picture" of what is happening at this time.
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most people do not even know there is a elite , much less what their agenda is.

stuff like this make the unaware just dismiss as conspiracy theory.

truth in small doses works much better than a giant injection, which many are going to dismiss.
 
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gb9 said:
most people do not even know there is a elite , much less what their agenda is.

stuff like this make the unaware just dismiss as conspiracy theory.

truth in small doses works much better than a giant injection, which many are going to dismiss.
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Yes, I know... :(
 
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JamOn said:
hey GaryA just FYI, I checked your site out I liked it though it says the link is unsecured, might want to check into the secures of it.
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A bit of encouragement for today...

:):cool:

Thanks.

What you are seeing is simply the fact that the site is set up 'http' and not 'https'. (Does this make sense?)
 
JamOn

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GaryA said:
A bit of encouragement for today...

:):cool:

Thanks.

What you are seeing is simply the fact that the site is set up 'http' and not 'https'. (Does this make sense?)
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I’m not a computer geek or anything lol, but by saying it is unsecured site does that make hacking or any other bad things people do easier or not. like I said I’m not to hip on computer programming and how people get into other people’s business like through hacking computers.
 
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