This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

But, we have a flu shot for that. We don't have a "shot" for coronarvirus which mean, it will return seasonally. So we really do have to get a vaccine for it. The 1918 Flu killed millions of people. Seems like you dont think this is too serious and it is NOT ... if you are not over 65 and you are not ill. Please explain this to me because I would love to believe that this pandemic is not serious. Is Dr. Anthony Fauci a fraud?

During a pandemic that lasted two years from its outbreak in the U.S., between 50 million and 100 million people across the globe died. Spanish flu killed more people than any pandemic disease before or since, including the sixth-century Plague of Justinian, the medieval Black Death, the AIDS epidemic or Ebola. - https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu

We don’t have a “flu” vaccine. We have a series of vaccines, NONE of which are near completely effective. People frequently have terrible side effects INCLUDING actually getting the flu from the shot.

As for people getting sick and dying?

News flash!!! That has been happening since Eve ate the apple and gave it to her husband to eat, and he did.

The flu vaccine is a guess.
It ONLY EFFECTS a certain strain.
What do you mean there is no vaccine?
they are using antibodies now for corona.

they can only guess what the next strain will be.
How many get a flu shot and still get the flu?
Tons of pple.

Dr Fauci is a fraud .. This coronavirus is a fraud to the degree it is hyped to, the Mueller ''Russian collusion'' is a fraud , Bill Gates is a deep state created fraud, Pelosi and her Trump impeachment is a fraud , our coastlines being 10' under water by now is a fraud, Greta Thurnburg and Bill Nye the BS guy are frauds ..
Quinine with zinc are proven cures for coronavirus is real .. Trump getting voted in 2016 was impossible except for a miracle from God is real .. My wife and I received 2400 dollars stimulus checks in our accounts today thanks to Trump is real .. I have not had the first hint of fear since Trump was elected is real, in fact I am emboldened .. Trump is a vessel of the Lord like we are ..

During the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak there may have been 5G frequency mixed in , Aside from being reported causing other problems , fish were filmed jumping out of the river onto the land during that time and fishermen were amazed while picking up fish .. Good luck finding that video again ..

Anybody here remember Lindsey Williams who had the ''elite friend'' ? He's been scarce lately but 3 yrs ago he reported that his friend said there was no way Trump could win in 2016 and that the only way was by divine intervention and that as long as Trump was in office no one could touch him .. We were supposed to be destroyed and totally controlled in the NWO by now . Soros even controlled the voting machines

What a lovely loving Christian attitude and very surprising since you and your wife are in the "a bit older" category and therefore high risk. You would sing a different tune if any of your loved ones got it and died.

It is good that most people CARE and that we have people who work tirelessly to try to save those who are suffering, some putting their own lives at risk AND dying.

Penn Ed, I am quite sure that I am not alone in seeing that you think you are always right.
The problem is this:
Knowing enough about a subject to think you are right,
but not enough to realize you are wrong.

PS: A great lesson for ALL OF US in humility.

penned just told you the truth.

just because it sounds wild does not mean it is not true.

I’m not sure if you’re like one of the girls in grammar school that act mean to a boy you really like, or if you just shadow me to be mean for some other reason. But I’m a married man!

BTW. EVERYONE thinks they are right. How stupid would it be for someone to make a comment that they thought was wrong?

Now go cower in your bubble. It’ll be ok

Penn Ed:

You missed the point of the quote. We do think we are right, BUT we need to be astute enough to realize that we might be wrong. It is a lesson for all of us.

It would be nice if we could all be a bit more like Jesus. Imagine Jesus saying "yes, well, reality check, people are dying anyway'. No, He would do all he could to help others.
The Eight Beatitudes comes to mind. I have never seen talk about Jesus's LIFE. I would come here much more often if we could talk about that.

Bye all and I sincerely hope some of you see the light & become Christians who love Jesus for what he TAUGHT/THAT IS THE REAL MESSAGE.

God is Love. Jesus said "Fear Not" over and over again. And, I believe Him. My mother taught me to follow Jesus ... not just in word, but in deed.

My apology if I upset you.

Eleventh Hour, you make a lot of sense

Thank you and much appreciated, sincerely.

Yes, of course he is. And what is motivating him????

I guess I just dont understand the thinking here. Conspiracies? Attempts to control us. Sounds like people are very afraid. I just trust Dr. Faucci & medical professionals to do what is right for us. Trump appointed him & keeps him (Dr.Fauci) and everyone here loves & trusts Trump, right? So what is wrong???

I wonder if in 1917 people were coming up with these conspiracies.

This is a novel virus. Doctors/Epidemiologist/Virologists did not know what they were dealing with, especially with it originating in China where the death toll was much, much higher than was reported.
This virus is a problem. It has some very strange features and it is not done yet, it could reinfect in which case we are in real trouble, but we simply do not know.
We have no idea how long immunity lasts as well.

Yes what is wrong? ... They need a scapegoat so they blame his advisers.
So ironic that the mitigation and containment is working and yet they complain.

I am just as baffled as you.

These comments have no basis in reality.
Seriously.. there is much evidence coming out in medical journals on this virus and what happened in China.
It was not pretty.

Thank YOU, sincerely for the reality check. Yes, I have read some of the studies myself. I hope that people do get permanent immunity once getting it, or it will be h** till we get a vaccine, which they say is 12-18 months, conservatively. So, I pray for 1) containment 2) immunity 3) a vaccine/whatever it takes to stop all of this.
I think what works against me is having gone to school where I was taught critical thinking. Also, I just tend to trust until/unless someone/something proves otherwise.
Feel free to message me anytime. I look forward to reading your posts. It is a healthy reality check.

I'm guessing Dr Fauci sold his soul to be willing to do anything he was told .. Bush 41 hired him in 84 when Reagan was Pres ..