This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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Look in some month. India made a quick shutdown, when it came through tourists to india. In germany we dont have a high Rate, because of shutdown and distance. You can see it increase in Afrika from day to day. And you can sie f.e. that sweden which was not shutdown have an letalyrate of nearly 10%.
I knew something was off.

From huffpo....a ultra liberal pub;
"Sweden has more than 8,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. While the government has not reported a breakdown by ethnicity, local researchers noted “an astonishing high rate” of deaths among the Somali population in late March, and recent statistics suggest a disproportionate number of infections in areas of the capital and national center of the outbreak, Stockholm, with many residents from foreign backgrounds. Of the first 15 people to die of coronavirus in and around Stockholm, six were of Somali heritage..."

UH HUH.
But hey just trust msm


They will lead you to the promise land....mandatory vaccines
 

notuptome

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So does aspirin, benedyl,nyquel,statins,nsads,tylenol, and every single thing out there.
Water can even kill you.

You have been duped by fake news big time
There is a fine line between bold and fool hardy.

I would handle a viper to protect others from his deadly bite but I would not handle a viper to impress people with by courage. One act God will bless in the other He has no part.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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We have a 25% to 40% of people in nursing homes dying if there is an outbreak.
You can't prove this. It's just an assertion. Someone else can assert that 0% will die in event of an outbreak.

The only reason more people esp. older people elsewhere are not dying yet is because they have not been infected, at this rate more and more people will get infected since it spreads easily. Plus we know a lot of people are unhealthy and have unhealthy habits, they are more at risk.
Prove it again. Older people do die of old age, and at the moment, are going down as COVID statistics when they do, instead of old age.

Most people test negative with the test, however that really doesn't mean anything. They maybe haven't been exposed, or they might test positive later.
This is correct. The creator of the test actually said it was never meant to be used for diagnosing disease. The test is actually checking for exosomes, which are excretions of poisoned cells. So if you get some lung condition (e.g. cold, flu, lung cancer), you *will* be able to test positive for COVID-19.

At this rate basically everyone will lose a loved one or have them hospitalized at some point. I pray I am wrong.
At some point, we all die. It's been that way since Adam.

I don't get when people say this virus only affects people with underlying conditions, as though they can breathe a sigh of relief. I'm sure near 100% of all people either have an underlying condition or have family with one of the above listed underlying condition.
Basically, they're saying the virus didn't kill that victim, the other condition did. This alleged coronavirus has not been isolated, has not been proven to cause sickness, and has not been proven to be infectious. All propaganda and no science.

I would handle a viper to protect others from his deadly bite but I would not handle a viper to impress people with by courage. One act God will bless in the other He has no part.
But would you handle a worm that everyone was claiming to be a viper to show them all that the worm was not a viper and so the people didn't take the antivenom developed by the corrupt village witchdoctor, which actually was viper-venom and was going to hurt the deceived?
 
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You can't prove this. It's just an assertion. Someone else can assert that 0% will die in event of an outbreak.
Above I cited to an article where 24 of the 82 infected died in a nursing home. The numbers speak for themselves.
Prove it again. Older people do die of old age, and at the moment, are going down as COVID statistics when they do, instead of old age.
This argument is ridiculous. This is probably why the China figures are so low and unreliable. They are citing it to old age and other causes. If a person tested positive for the virus, they died because of the virus.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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This alleged coronavirus has not been isolated, has not been proven to cause sickness, and has not been proven to be infectious.
Wow. I dare you to be in a room full of Covid victims...without protective gear.
 
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Above I cited to an article where 24 of the 82 infected died in a nursing home. The numbers speak for themselves.

This argument is ridiculous. This is probably why the China figures are so low and unreliable. They are citing it to old age and other causes. If a person tested positive for the virus, they died because of the virus.
You can use reason all you want ...but when people live outside of reality it is impossible for them to see.
 
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Above I cited to an article where 24 of the 82 infected died in a nursing home. The numbers speak for themselves.

This argument is ridiculous. This is probably why the China figures are so low and unreliable. They are citing it to old age and other causes. If a person tested positive for the virus, they died because of the virus.
Non official reports cite China having up to 75 000 dead, with crematoriums running 24/7.

They were bolting people in their apartments....this is a fact. Sounds like panic to me.

Some reports are stating that the prior SARS outbreak a couple decades prior actually compromised their immune systems to this virus.
Also interesting is there is a small number of people that are still testing positive even after recovering, keeping a low grade fever.
This is no typical virus.
 

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Florida publishes numbers by county and zip code daily. A good number to watch is the new cases in Duval county. Beginning today, the beaches will be open 8 hours daily. Ten days from now, if the new case numbers do not start to spike, it is safe to begin opening the economy there. If not, it's time to rethink how and when we reopen.

One other number that we need to pay close attention to everywhere, is the hospitalization rate. The criteria for counting new cases is changing. This will result in a sharp uptick in new cases. It is designed to push the hospitalization rate down. Be careful. Don't use yesterdays data when looking forward. The curves will not be the same.

Let's also take a look at the antibody test trial's results. It should give us a much better handle on the total number of cases. I believe that we may see that the totals are much (by an order of 10 or more) than we are reporting. Let's see.
 

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we are free in Christ,

if you are not a believer, you wont really know what it means to be free.
 

Lanolin

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with the virus people die of it as the agent that causes everything else. If they were not infected, there would be less chance of dying and so soon. That is just the way it is, and that happens with most viruses eg HIV, people dont die of a VIRUS itself cos the virus actually needs a host to replicate. People seem to be splitting hairs over this.

It would be like people insisting guns dont kill people, people kill people.
 

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You are definately a plant.
You are here to oppose EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT MSM PROPAGANDA.
YOU NEVER BRING A LINK BECAUSE YOU DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE MSM.

eleventhhour can defend herself, she does not need anyone doing so.

but this is just plain rude and silly.

this is why I can't go very far with you conspiracy theorists. you think anyone who disagrees with you is a shill or a plant.

you think everything is fake, and every event is a false flag.

you refuse to see that everything is NOT binary.

some things are true, some things are false. those of us who live in the real world get that.

and, even though eleventhhour and I disagree, sometimes strongly , about some things with the virus, I like her. and she is 100% percent NOT a brainwashed m.s.m, plant.
 

Lanolin

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and not actually aknowledging that hey, guns are designed to kill and can actually be you know, dangerous weapons.
 

Lanolin

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I dont think people really care about the one who lost their loved ones in NYC. the thread has become ppl arguing over stats.

If you lose someone to the virus, its not likely you can even go to their funeral.
 

Lanolin

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how about people here take a minutes silence to mourn.

A year from now, thats what people are going to do.
 
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There is a fine line between bold and fool hardy.

I would handle a viper to protect others from his deadly bite but I would not handle a viper to impress people with by courage. One act God will bless in the other He has no part.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Hydroxychloroquine has been used successfully with almost zero complications.

Always test info.
Especially since you are being lied to.
 
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eleventhhour can defend herself, she does not need anyone doing so.

but this is just plain rude and silly.

this is why I can't go very far with you conspiracy theorists. you think anyone who disagrees with you is a shill or a plant.

you think everything is fake, and every event is a false flag.

you refuse to see that everything is NOT binary.

some things are true, some things are false. those of us who live in the real world get that.

and, even though eleventhhour and I disagree, sometimes strongly , about some things with the virus, I like her. and she is 100% percent NOT a brainwashed m.s.m, plant.
Look at her posts
They are as vague as fingerpainting.
Her "sources " are "secret" and here say.
She ponders nothing but defaults into "oppose anything and EVERYTHING "outside of msm.

If she is not a plant,she role plays it perfectly.

She definately is on a mission.
 
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eleventhhour can defend herself, she does not need anyone doing so.

but this is just plain rude and silly.

this is why I can't go very far with you conspiracy theorists. you think anyone who disagrees with you is a shill or a plant.

you think everything is fake, and every event is a false flag.

you refuse to see that everything is NOT binary.

some things are true, some things are false. those of us who live in the real world get that.

and, even though eleventhhour and I disagree, sometimes strongly , about some things with the virus, I like her. and she is 100% percent NOT a brainwashed m.s.m, plant.
She also scolds anyone NOT OFFERING A LINK....while at the same time not doing the same.

Something is way way off with her.