Bill Gates - Coronahoax must go on

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Do you believe the "coronavirus epidemic" was actually a hoax for a wider conspiracy?


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Moses_Young

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The unelected nuisance-cum-wannabe-technocrat the world would be far better off without and the inventor of history's worst computer operating system, Bill Gates, is quoted as saying in reference to the coronavirus scamdemic 'I wish I could say that we're halfway through, but I don't think so. It takes time to make a vaccine... There's a lot about the disease we don't know about. It's going to be awhile before things go back to normal.'

Now, obviously, Billy-boy has an agenda to get all people in the world microchipped and vaccinated to death, and by the tone of his statement, he's got more coronahoaxes planned if the first one fails to achieve this objective. However, I remember reading some CIA research some years back that indicated if more than 10% of a population knew the truth about a matter, it was only a matter of time before the whole population would learn this truth.

So naturally, I wanted to undertake a sample poll, and determine how many people here understand that all this coronavirus nonsense was actually an orchestrated hoax to strip people of freedom. If 10% of the population are aware of the sinister nature of this conspiracy, it's probably less likely the next coronavirus (and I'm sure there will be one) will be successful for the likes of geeky Bill and his fellow traitors.

Before we get to the poll, I wanted to clarify what I mean by "coronahoax". Essentially, what is being sold by governments and the media is that this coronavirus killed (and is killing) a lot of people. However, when death statistics are compared between this year and last, total mortality in many (most?) regions is comparable. In other words, the hoax is that deaths due to various causes (cancer, heart issues, pneumonia, influenza etc.) are being reclassified as due to "coronavirus", in order to promote fear of a virus and thereby justify the draconian measures that are claimed to fight it.
 

Nehemiah6

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Before we get to the poll, I wanted to clarify what I mean by "coronahoax". Essentially, what is being sold by governments and the media is that this coronavirus killed (and is killing) a lot of people.
Here is further evidence of a hoax, with numbers for the USA.

"The media is reporting massive death counts from the China coronavirus. These counts are coming from a couple of sources, one of which is the Worldometer coronavirus website. The death counts on these sites and in the media are over reporting the number of China coronavirus deaths by 62% when compared to the data at the CDC website."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-actual-deaths-reported-per-cdc-nearly-29000/

In addition to that the CDC is asking doctors to pad the numbers of COVID-19 deaths, and some states are also resorting to this to get more federal funding.

The latest figures from the Johns Hopkins interactive map as as below:
65.908 deaths. If you reduce that number by 10% for padding you have about 59,000.

Now Daily Caller has a map which is sponsored by the NY Times. Here is their number: 63,109 deaths. Reduce that by 10% and you get about 57,000 deaths.

When you go to Worldometer, they have 67,099

That is 1,191 more than Johns Hopkins, and 3,990 over the NY Times. But if we want to take 58,000 as more realistic then the excess number of deaths being reported is 9,099 (almost 10,000). Which tells us that none of these numbers can really be trusted.

The typical tactic of Totalitarianism is FEAR MONGERING. Hitler and his nasty Nazis used fear-mongering against Jews to promote their evil agenda. Now the globalists are doing the same thing to promote their agenda.

The CDC reported an estimate 80,000 flu deaths for 2018-19 but no one panicked.
 
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Here is further evidence of a hoax, with numbers for the USA.

"The media is reporting massive death counts from the China coronavirus. These counts are coming from a couple of sources, one of which is the Worldometer coronavirus website. The death counts on these sites and in the media are over reporting the number of China coronavirus deaths by 62% when compared to the data at the CDC website."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-actual-deaths-reported-per-cdc-nearly-29000/

In addition to that the CDC is asking doctors to pad the numbers of COVID-19 deaths, and some states are also resorting to this to get more federal funding.

The latest figures from the Johns Hopkins interactive map as as below:
65.908 deaths. If you reduce that number by 10% for padding you have about 59,000.

Now Daily Caller has a map which is sponsored by the NY Times. Here is their number: 63,109 deaths. Reduce that by 10% and you get about 57,000 deaths.

When you go to Worldometer, they have 67,099

That is 1,191 more than Johns Hopkins, and 3,990 over the NY Times. But if we want to take 58,000 as more realistic then the excess number of deaths being reported is 9,099 (almost 10,000). Which tells us that none of these numbers can really be trusted.

The typical tactic of Totalitarianism is FEAR MONGERING. Hitler and his nasty Nazis used fear-mongering against Jews to promote their evil agenda. Now the globalists are doing the same thing to promote their agenda.

The CDC reported an estimate 80,000 flu deaths for 2018-19 but no one panicked.

That's only because 50,000 doctor's and care taker's did'nt have to come out of retirement and funeral homes did'nt have to store bodies in cooler's in 2019-19....
 

Moses_Young

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The typical tactic of Totalitarianism is FEAR MONGERING. Hitler and his nasty Nazis used fear-mongering against Jews to promote their evil agenda. Now the globalists are doing the same thing to promote their agenda.
I think that what is being done by the WHO and governments around the world far exceeds whatever Hitler and the Nazis ever dreamed of. It's more in line with Stalin and his starvation of tens of millions, although I think this feat will even beat Stalin and Communism's black record.

The sad thing is, most people still don't even realise they've been duped. Perhaps they'll have a rethink when it's too late, and the food runs out?
 

Nehemiah6

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The sad thing is, most people still don't even realise they've been duped. Perhaps they'll have a rethink when it's too late, and the food runs out?
Very true. And at the head of that list is Donald Trump himself. So those who want the low-down on the vaccine, please read this article.

May 4, 2020
Beware the elusive vaccine
By Carol Brown

Life will never return to normal until we have The Vaccine. So say the experts, with Tony Fauci leading the charge. (That fact alone should give anyone pause.) There are multiple problems with respect to a coronavirus vaccine. (Full disclosure: I'm not an anti-vaxxer).


First, coronaviruses have been around for a long time, yet we've never been able to develop a vaccine for any of them. Why should this go-'round be at all different? So when we hear Fauci be confident we'll have a vaccine (and by early next year, no less), I have to wonder.

Then there are concerns about efficacy. Since the "experts" continue to say we don't know how long people who have antibodies will be immune to the virus, the same uncertainty would apply to antibody response to a vaccine.

In addition, if seasonal flu vaccines are any guide, efficacy could range from 10% to 60%, with an average rate of effectiveness over the past ten years being about 42%. So far, from what the "experts" have said, the coronavirus is fairly stable with very little mutation, so that could be a helpful trait with respect to a vaccine.

Another factor to consider is those involved in vaccine development who raise suspicion regarding motive and financial incentive. Some prominent names include Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, and the World Health Organization — a triad worthy of scrutiny and skepticism.

There is also the question of whether enough vaccine could be manufactured to make a difference. "Experts" have various opinions on the matter. (Gee, what a surprise.)

According to good ol' Bill Gates, once we have a vaccine, priorities for who gets it should be as follows: health care workers and people living in poor countries. Apparently, you, your parents, and your grandparents will have to remain in isolation for a while longer. These lives just don't matter that much anymore.

Gates is the last person anyone should be listening to on such matters. He's a globalist with major ties to China. In the wake of the coronavirus pandemic, he's heaped praise on China and discouraged any criticism of the communist nation that unleashed a highly contagious virus upon the world.

So, as Mr. Gates et al. forge ahead with vaccine development, one must wonder where the ingredients for the vaccine be made, and where will it be manufactured? To date, it doesn't appear that flu vaccines administered in the United States are manufactured in China (although many are made overseas), with the caveat that flu vaccines contain antibiotics, and China manufacturers nearly 100% of all the antibiotics we import. But that was then, and this is now — now being a new world order that arrived in the wake of this virus, with many of the major players in vaccine development having strong ties to China.

Meanwhile, there are rumblings about mandating the vaccine (perhaps for certain demographic groups, at the very least). How this would be enforced is anyone's guess. From what we've seen these past couple of months, even the suggestion of such a thing should make the hair on the back of one's neck stand on end. (Mandatory participation in vaccine trials is also a subject for debate.)
Although there is precedent for mandating vaccines (such as schoolchildren), in light of how many elected officials and bureaucrats have been relishing their newfound tyrannical powers, requiring a coronavirus vaccine would be serious cause for concern.


Anyone who makes a vaccine for the coronavirus a litmus test for getting on with one's life should be viewed with a doubtful eye (to put it lightly).

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/beware_the_elusive_vaccine.html
 
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covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths-05012020-1.jpg Please read carefully, no underlying conditions column particularly. And note the terminology with corona virus, not from corona virus. Weasle words
 

Moses_Young

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Very true. And at the head of that list is Donald Trump himself. So those who want the low-down on the vaccine, please read this article.

May 4, 2020
Beware the elusive vaccine
By Carol Brown

Life will never return to normal until we have The Vaccine. So say the experts, with Tony Fauci leading the charge. (That fact alone should give anyone pause.) There are multiple problems with respect to a coronavirus vaccine. (Full disclosure: I'm not an anti-vaxxer).
I am a vaccine-denier, but I don't let this impact my judgement. Afterall, a basic tenet of medicine is "Firsrt do no harm". If one can't prove that, how can one prove it's medicine?

The problem with any covid-1984 vaccine is that to invent a vaccine, you need to have a disease. As covid-1984 has never even been scientifically proven to exist, it will be very difficult to manufacture a cure for it. Akin to inventing fairy dust to assist tooth fairies fly, when you've never proven tooth fairies to exist.

I've been reading an interesting book called The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg, where he makes the claim influenza is a disease caused by electricity. Before the advent of electricity, there was no such thing as "seasonal flu". They knew influenza existed, and people died from it so they kept stats on it, but it was largely blamed on phenomena like the stars - there would be the occasional outbreak every few years, but certainly not every year. There was/is good evidence flu is not contagious - ships that hadn't been on land for months would suffer an outbreak, and when they'd get to land, they'd discover the same outbreak had occurred on land at the same time as it had on the ship. Essentially, flu traveled then too fast to be blamed on contagion.

Then in 1889, with the mass roll-out of electricity, flu-season started to happen every year. With the 1918 flu pandemic that socialists like to try to frighten everyone with, it is claimed that this coincided with a major roll-out of radio waves (US Navy). Again, very good evidence this particular flu was not contagious (they couldn't demonstrate healthy people could catch it, despite injecting them with mucous from the sick). However, testing the blood of a great number of sick people, it was found that in every case, the blood was clotting between 2.5 and 8 minutes slower than average (and this was believed to be the cause of the high fatality rate). Slowing of blot-clotting is not a symptom of a virus, but is a well-known symptom of being exposed to changing electric fields.

In terms of treatment, very good success was reported by treating victims with supplements to speed up clotting.
 
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No, it's real. Though the measures are pretty much just psychological to give people a sense of security. The truth is it's a new virus so no one really knows what will work besides good old fashioned quarantine.
 

Moses_Young

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No, it's real. Though the measures are pretty much just psychological to give people a sense of security. The truth is it's a new virus so no one really knows what will work besides good old fashioned quarantine.
Do you believe in the scientific method? If so, what do you say to the claim that this virus has never been proven, and that none of Koch's postulates have been demonstrated with respect to it?
 
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Do you believe in the scientific method? If so, what do you say to the claim that this virus has never been proven, and that none of Koch's postulates have been demonstrated with respect to it?
I believe a lot of science is just science falsely so-called.

Pontius Pilate asked Lord Jesus; "what is truth?" Lord Jesus held his silence and stood before him. Pilate didn't really understand.
 

Lanolin

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meh
HIV virus also doesnt kill you, its underlying conditions that kill you.
whatever, if you get it, there a likely chance you may die BECAUSE actually, a lot of peoples health isnt that great anyway.

its like people who say well guns dont kill you its people that kill you...well hello, when peoole get hold of guns its highly likely that more people will be dead by gunshot than not...because guns dont go off by themselves.

I guess people dont sctually care that much about others on this site, especially for all those that already have "underlying conditions.....'
 

Lanolin

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and there is actually nothing YOU can do about it

so you can rant and rave all you like about it all being a hoax, but thats not going to actually stop the deaths, because people arent observing basic quarantine measures.
 

Lanolin

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another thing people seem to hate bill Gates on here weird for a christian site where you are meant to love your enemies,,,if Bill Gates is really an enemy. Nobody even mentions Steve Jobs. lol
 
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another thing people seem to hate bill Gates on here weird for a christian site where you are meant to love your enemies,,,if Bill Gates is really an enemy. Nobody even mentions Steve Jobs. lol
Lol well that's probably because Steve Jobs is dead. Can't really make any elaborate conspiracy to take over the world if you're being eaten by worms after all.
 
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He did'nt make the decision. The Jews did...Right?
 

Moses_Young

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I believe a lot of science is just science falsely so-called.

Pontius Pilate asked Lord Jesus; "what is truth?" Lord Jesus held his silence and stood before him. Pilate didn't really understand.
And yet you're prepared to believe the ones who have practiced absolutely no science, rather than the established scientific method which has been tried, tested and trusted for more than the last 100 years? Truth is truth, and science is science. Calling lies truth doesn't make them so; neither does calling nonsense science make it sense.

meh
HIV virus also doesnt kill you, its underlying conditions that kill you.
whatever, if you get it, there a likely chance you may die BECAUSE actually, a lot of peoples health isnt that great anyway.
You haven't proved there is a virus yet. You know death existed before this virus was alleged, right?

its like people who say well guns dont kill you its people that kill you...well hello, when peoole get hold of guns its highly likely that more people will be dead by gunshot than not...because guns dont go off by themselves.
Actually, its more like people who say food kills people. We all know very well that certain types of food can kill you if you eat too much of it. But few of us are silly enough to go to those excesses, and we must eat to survive.

I guess people dont sctually care that much about others on this site, especially for all those that already have "underlying conditions.....'
Why do you think that people don't care for others, simply because they don't believe in a virus that has never been proven?

and there is actually nothing YOU can do about it
There may be nothing YOU can do about it. But the truth is like a lion - we needs only release it, and it will defend itself. :)

so you can rant and rave all you like about it all being a hoax, but thats not going to actually stop the deaths, because people arent observing basic quarantine measures.
Ummmm. I'm neither ranting nor raving, although this situation clearly is a hoax. No one is dying because people aren't observing basic quarantine measures. That's government sponsored propaganda.

another thing people seem to hate bill Gates on here weird for a christian site where you are meant to love your enemies,,,if Bill Gates is really an enemy. Nobody even mentions Steve Jobs. lol
Bill Gates is a criminal. Is it not loving to demand that criminals be given a fair trial and just punishment? This is all I expect for Bill Gates, or indeed mass rapists, mass murderers, or any other criminal.
 
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And yet you're prepared to believe the ones who have practiced absolutely no science, rather than the established scientific method which has been tried, tested and trusted for more than the last 100 years? Truth is truth, and science is science. Calling lies truth doesn't make them so; neither does calling nonsense science make it sense.
Lol the "science" of the past 100 years is mostly fake. It's more or less a modern mythology.

Oh if only 10% of the public knew the truth.....

Here's one for you that isn't too far from your beliefs.

The vaccine is futile. It would take years to make and perfect the vaccine (this is assuming you can even make it to begin with I'd add.) Doubly so because the virus is mutating because it was tampered with by the Chinese.
 

PennEd

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Think on this. This insanely wicked man, over and over again says that we have to vaccinate NEARLY ALL people on the planet. His idea of NEARLY is 7 Billion souls. Well, there are just over 7.5 Billion people on Earth. Why aren't the other 500 million getting vaccinated?

This is of course speculation, but I have been bothered by at least 15 yrs upon learning about "The American Stonehenge", or Georgia Guidestones. Don't know how familiar you with them, but someone took the time, resources, and money, NO ONE still seems sure who, to erect and maintain this monstrosity! Read the "Rules" that are etched in 10 World languages, paying SPECIAL attention to rule number 1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 (500 million) IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE.

That looks like a serious connection to Bill Gates 500,000,000 that won't have to be innoculated with his poison!

https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/What-you-need-to-know-about-the-COVID-19-vaccine

 

bojack

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naming names in this wild video