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Rosemaryx

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Yep.....she just gave it away by what she said to me.....I just seen a snake in the grass in my yard!! Must be the HEAT!
@dcontroversal ...
Did you really see a snake in your grass or are you talking about the poster lol , your forum ( Yard ) , and is the heat your talking about from the sun ( Or you swinging your sword heat ) , made me wonder lol...
...xox...
 
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How was this implied?

I get and agree with your point concerning God trying to correct him.

But what we do know is Cain was a farmer and Abel a shepherd yet ones offering was rejected.

If implied that Cain was given instructions then did he not follow them why?

Cain was the first human born and Abel the first human killed.

Any thoughts on the implications you mention?
Cain was of the EVIL one from the beginning and identified as a false teacher in Jude.....he offered WORKS instead of faith in the blood (Hebrews 11 ->Abel) and my personal belief based upon the language of Genesis and how SETH comes about and the use of Adam knowing Eve his wife AGAIN to produce Seth, (not said about Abel) I believe Cain and Abel were twins......!!
 
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@dcontroversal ...
Did you really see a snake in your grass or are you talking about the poster lol , your forum ( Yard ) , and is the heat your talking about from the sun ( Or you swinging your sword heat ) , made me wonder lol...
...xox...
I have no recollection of that Senator ;)
 
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In the grace you are <--positional

Having been saved out of faith <--past tense and how one is saved

and that NOT OF YOURSELVES <- Nothing you can do to save yourself and or remain saved

It is the GIFT OF GOD <--Salvation and the faith that saves are GIFTS OF GOD...of can be translated of or from and BOTH INDICATE SOURCE

Not of works lest any man should boast <--IF WORKS DO NOT SAVE, AND THEY DON'T...it is idiotic to think or peddle that works KEEP K
ONE SAVED....

ONE cannot get MORE saved than one whi is already saved BY FAITH and NOT BY WORKS!
 

Ruby123

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Hey Ruby...how is Western AU......so ready to come back to Sydney......United is still flying and the Au Gov said I can come back with my current BSB no restriction visa...
Hi DC,
Good thanks, hope you are well too.
Well thats good news for you to fly back to Aus. They will probably open the borders soon.
It is coming into winter now so starting to get freakish storms. I have a feeling winter may be wild this year.
Make sure you bring your warm gear.
 

VCO

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Hi DC,
Good thanks, hope you are well too.
Well thats good news for you to fly back to Aus. They will probably open the borders soon.
It is coming into winter now so starting to get freakish storms. I have a feeling winter may be wild this year.
Make sure you bring your warm gear.
I have that problem alot..lol

I found some additional information to support the TEMPLE BELONGS IN THE CITY OF DAVID, that you are going to want to see, Post #1,418 . In my opinion that was the final SCREW in the false idea that so-called temple mount is the location, that theory is now dead and buried.
 
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EleventhHour

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Everything past your "but" is your own accusatory assumption....I will gladly wait for you to pull up a quote by me saying or indicating such a frivolous accusation..........this is one more example why you consistently prove that you are a fraud....you have no actual biblical ground to stand on which most with eyes can see so you resort to false accusations......what a joke!
I think "someone" has been silenced by this post.
 

cv5

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I found some additional information to support the TEMPLE BELONGS IN THE CITY OF DAVID, that you are going to want to see, Post #1,418 . In my opinion that was the final SCREW in the false idea that so-called temple mount is the location, that theory is now dead and buried.
I have posted these videos several times and in several threads. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the Temple resides within the boundaries of the city of David (Israeli territory), and absolutely NOT on the temple mount where the Muslim shrines are located.

This is it folks they have just about found out exactly where the Temple is located.

The Temple | Bob Cornuke

THE COMING TEMPLE
 
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G2RBeliever

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Cheers,
i apologize for my anger yesterday,I'm very regretful that the pain I was suffering was directed at any here. 😢
The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak,please pray that I overcome the flesh in ALL my life!
 

mailmandan

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But a believer is justified and that does not change.
Romans 8:30 - Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. *ALL of them. Notice how Paul uses the past tense for a future event to stress it's certainty. (y)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I think "someone" has been silenced by this post.
Naa, He will be back, this is where he gets Fed. I noticed in my travels that it appeas this is the only thread he posts in.. He has been caught slandering people for awhile now ansd called out for it, does not phase him a bit
 
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Everything past your "but" is your own accusatory assumption....I will gladly wait for you to pull up a quote by me saying or indicating such a frivolous accusation..........this is one more example why you consistently prove that you are a fraud....you have no actual biblical ground to stand on which most with eyes can see so you resort to false accusations......what a joke!
Here, I'll give you a chance to explain your own doctrine.
Let's start here:

Why is it 'works' if I have to keep believing in order to remain saved?

@EleventhHour , feel free to chime in, in case dcontroversal doesn't have time to post. I'd like both of you to explain your doctrine yourselves.
 

gb9

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Here, I'll give you a chance to explain your own doctrine.
Let's start here:

Why is it 'works' if I have to keep believing in order to remain saved?

@EleventhHour , feel free to chime in, in case dcontroversal doesn't have time to post. I'd like both of you to explain your doctrine yourselves.
how about you explain yours- you say that one is saved by belief, then you go on to say that if one sins too much or is not doing enough good works, then salvation can be lost.

explain this contradiction.

and we both know that Hebrews 3 is about Israel, who never really believed after being freed from Egypt, so that is not a viable go-to verse.
 
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did you come to the Lord because you hated your life or because the Holy Spirit convinced you that Jesus loved you so much that he died for you and accepted you as you were when you come to him and placed your faith in him?
Both.

I knew that only the righteous will go to be with Jesus when he comes back and I knew I was not righteous. I knew I was a slave to sin and could not stop and would pay the justly earned wages of my sin when I died. Then I heard about the real God who cared that I was a slave to sin and wanted to set me free and relate to me through 'relationship', not through 'religion'.