Not By Works

Who cares if christianity becomes illegal

Can a son stop being a son

Can a sheep change back into a wolf?

Can a seal of the spirit be undone?

Where do you or I get th epower to reverse what God did?

Lets see:

Love is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:10).

So according to this, yes; I'm on the right track.

There's hardly any love here with the OSAS'ers; so I can understand why this is difficult concept for you to grasp.

Examine the exchanges in posts here over the last few hundred pages. Which side has been casting nasty words at the other?

Any suggestions?

Jesus fulfilled the Law.


And wrong on the lack of love of OSAS'ers.......

Firstly it is because we serve God and desire to protect HIS TRUTH

Secondly because we love people and desire to protect from them their own bad, incorrect, unable to save dogma.

So better you get your facts straight before you make accusations.

Agree, we all the freedom to do that if we so wish.

God cut of Israel from him for not believing.

And Paul warns us not to be highminded, but to fear. Because we could be cut off after the same example of unbelief (Romans 11:20).

That should stop OSAS in it's tracks.

But I'm not mad at you. We are having a Bible discussion. In the end we can disagree and continue with God in our good conscience towards him.

5 out of 10 for grammar.

Well ya'll sure ain't winning me over with your attitudes. ;-)

Way off the mark here for sure.
You have mastered the art of double speak.

Yes the cross is sufficient............No the cross is not sufficient.

I am trying to think of how many times I broke the speed limit in the past month and a half.. In fact, I wonder if we could look at my life the past year. how much I am guilty of breaking the law of the land, and need to be fined for those crimes.

yes, so how many times have you failed to love perfect love in just the past weak?

Oh and your loving? By continually lying about us and condemning us?

I think you need to look in the mirror and remove the log out of your eye

How about a thread of real sanctification and christian growth.. And how it is that the one who started a good work completes it.

At last you have responded to me after many responses I have made to posts you have made.

Ok so sin is forgivable if done in ignorance.
Did Jesus die for those sins?
If so why so? If he had to die for them then it's a sin that needed to be atoned for?

If so then it's sin then we have no excuse.

Jesus died for all sins, past and future. If he did not then we are stuffed.
Because the sins of omission can only be forgiven when we confess/repent of them.

Genesis 20:6
6 And God said to him in a dream, “Yes, I know that you did this in the integrity of your heart. For I also withheld you from sinning against Me; therefore I did not let you touch her.

Abimileche was a pagan king, not a believer in God.
God interjefted after Abraham comitted willful sin by not trusting God. He lied and didn't trust God.

Numbers 15:27-29
27 ‘And if a person sins unintentionally, then he shall bring a female goat in its first year as a sin offering. 28 So the priest shall make atonement for the person who sins unintentionally, when he sins unintentionally before the Lord, to make atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29 You shall have one law for him who sins unintentionally, for him who is native-born among the children of Israel and for the stranger who dwells among them.

If a person commits a unintentional sin it still needs to be atoned for.
A sacrifice still needs to be made.
If a sacrifice still needs to made then it's a sin that seperats us from God.
If that's the case then we have no excuse.

Yet you quote the above as if you have an excuse because sins of omission to do not count.

Jesus left no room for sins of omission.

We should know better.

I seek the Lord to reveal to me the things I didn't do.

I acknowledge the things I did do that was wrong, to thank him that I have been forgiven.

I'm more concerned with the sins of omission than those of commission because I know the sins of commission and I ask for help.

Given my thoughts based on your posts that I have read you do not give two hoots about the sins of omission.

As I said Jesus left no room for sins of omission.

Are you sure?

I think we have a great attitude about Truth.

God is not done with Israel. They have always had a remnant.

Yep. High minded thinking we are better than Israel..



Nope/ Because your context is out of wack, It is not the salvation of induviduals. it is about the gentile churhc vs the churhc of Israel.

Well yes we can, But do you not think we need to figure out which Gospel is correct? I mean get it wrong, and it has eternal consequences correct?

You too.

Was it you it rebuffed @VCO that breaking the speed law was not a sin because it wasnt in the Bible?

And what does it say about the man who willfully sins?

It says that there is no sacrifice for him, even in the O.T.

It doesn't matter. The point is, if God can prevent even a heathen king from sinning, imagine what he can do for you, one who has been reconciled.

I make no excuses.

Not true. I have stated that when that sin that was committed in ignorance is brought to mind, then you no longer go on committing that sin willfully.

The speed limit must be observed according to the existing driving conditions. And the police take this into account.

It called, JUDGE righteous judgment, not according to the appearance (even Jesus taught this concept).

Does anybody here have a car?

Use your common sense for crying out loud.

The author is telling the Jew turned Christian that Jesus is the final blood sacrifice and no other sacrifice of any kind is needed.

You will never stop sinning willfully ... better to be humble about it.

The sacrifice of bull and goats never took away sin
that’s the whole point

Stop excusing you’re sins as not willfull